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Old 04-06-2004, 6:22 PM   #1
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DIY: Springs & Shocks (And how to remove rear seat)

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1st off......AWESOME tutorial and AWESOME job...I must say

2nd...How much did it run you for the H&R sports and the Bilsteins? Is a camber kit needed?

3rdly...how much would you charge to do this if I came down to you? Im up in the SFV (San Fernando Valley). Let me know
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Thanks.

H&R Sports were $150, Bilstein was $419 off ebay. Camber is car specific, not suspension specific, although it is a given with some (Tein, Race springs, etc.). My car needed no camber kit, I'm only off by hundredths of a degree.

PM me and we can talk about price and installation. It's all dependent around school and work. But my friend and I are willing to do any suspension install for a fee.
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hows the car feel with the blistein? I don't think anyone on this forum has used blistein so your the first please leave a review sometime soon.
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I do believe I am the first with Bilstein shocks on the forums. The Bilsteins are great, they are firm but feel stock, seriously. They are also very responsive and suit well with the springs. I'll try to do a full review in a few weeks. If anyone wants to hitch a ride to feel it, you'll be welcome.
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Great write up!

What's next? Supercharger? Headers? Pulleys?

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awesome writeup!! mods should put this under useful topics!
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excellent job mang, this should answer a whole of request. just one addition, you don't need to compress the rear springs, the spring will come out and go in without the need of compressing the spring.
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nice.... love the drop ....
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Re: DIY: Springs & Shocks (Mods Can Archive if needed)

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13. If you just replacing springs, you MUST mark the vertical position of all components using chalk. This is necessary for the front and back so you can align everything correctly. Itís a PITA to remove, fix, put back, remove, adjust, put backÖ you get the idea.
ok guys...i have no idea what this means...maybe u can clear this up for me. how do i do this?
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nice work.



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Great write up.

I thought that there was no Bilstein fitment for our car. I couldn't read in the picture -- what is the part number and what car is it designed to fit?
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ok guys...i have no idea what this means...maybe u can clear this up for me. how do i do this?
What I mean is, because the top mount hat HAS to fit a certain way back into the top holes... when replacing JUST springs, you must mark the position of the shock to prevent any misalignment when replacing the entire stock assembly because [b]stock shock piston rods don't turn[b]. Use chalk, pencil, pen, whatever.

Example (don't snicker ): BOLT [==> O=====]= TOP HAT (8) Holes in car They must all align to fit the bolt at the bottom assembly and top hat into the frame of the car.

When replacing both shocks and springs, this is not necessary because aftermarket shocks can turn... So you can turn the assembly and hat until it fits.

Honestly, you'll see what I'm talking about when you take it out.

Slimey: The Bilstein Sports are made to fit the 98-02 Accord V6. Don't get the 4cyl version (I believe there is a check digit added to the end of the part number) as they may blow due to different specs for gas compression and rebound.

Here are the Part Numbers:
Front: BE5-6580-H0
Back: BE5-6581-H0
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Thanks.

I thought that 98-02 suspension parts physically fit our car, but are not a proper substitute because of weight differences between our car and the Accord.

I know that others (I think EricL had a nice write up a year or two ago) looked into Bilstein struts, but could not find a properly spec'ed model for our car.

I think you're the first person to install them in the CL-S. Let us know how they work out - I'm looking to upgrade my struts in the next year or two and if my decision tree adds in Bilstein, then I got some more thinking to do.
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Nice post man. I followed this last night and got my H&R OE's on. It took me about 8 hours because I didn't have an air gun. Compressing the springs is a biatch by hand. I didn't get done until 5 a.m.......drove around about 20 miles and went and got an alignment later.

Also, I didn't realize what you meant on #13.......I found out very quickly about 3 hours in to the first spring and the 3rd time off.

All in all...priceless post. You may want to add that you need a hex key to get the rear sway bar off. I was turning and turning for 15 minutes before I realized the whole bolt was moving. . Also, it would be cool if it was printable....as it doesn't format well on a printer.....but no biggie.

Thank you for taking time to do this.
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Thanx for the comment! Glad to see everything worked out and this post helped you.

Sorry, yes, I should add that a hex key is required for the end-links. I used an airgun (no key needed), so I forgot that I needed it.
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Excellent write up!! For those without air tools I'd skip removing the end links. I didn't take mine off when I did my comptech/konis and it wasn't a problem.
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So how is the hadling ? Agree that the bilsteins are the best ! Thank you for this add ! Thank you !
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Another question what is the part # for your H&R sport springs ? Thanks !
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im gonna bring this back from the dead so i can thank NITE for a incredibly detailed DIY. im going to attempt this with my brother-in-law very soon and this was VERYYYYYYYYYYY helpful!!
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Nite,
First of all, I want to thank you on preparing an _excellent_ guide. I used it to install the rear shocks and springs this weekend and it was very helpful.

I had a few thoughts/ questions.

1. why do you recomend removing all three bolts at the top of the shock? It does not seem necessary, and we did not remove it for the second wheel.

2. Did you use the bottom out bumper from the original shock? It is not mentioned in your guide. (We did - no probs yet.)

3. regarding the front shock, do you really need to remove all five bolts at the top mount mount? (see no.1)

4. To make the job easier, we used a second jack to compress the spring soo that the spring compressor can be attached while its compressed, saving alot of time compressing it by hand.

5. I know you installed non-adjustable shocks,but i used illuminas - I drilled out a small hole above the shock to allow acces to the adjusting knob. You may want to mention that possibility.

Thanks again for a great guide!
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How do you check how many degrees you are off in order to determine you even need a camber kit in the first place? (Besides actually seeing it). Anyone know?
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Bilstein Sport H&R Sport 50103 on TL

Thanks NiteQwill for the DIY. I have installed H&R Sport 50103 on my TLP. Two finger gap all four corners
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Looks pretty hot, NiteQWill's DIY saved alot of forum members a shitload of money, thanks again NiteQWill!
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Nice write up....very detailed...
btw...How are the ride quality and cornering performance?
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excellent write up! i'll be needing this in the future. the drop looks perfect for me. not too low.
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Seems like www.we-todd-did-racing.com is down for awhile.

I have a backup. Let me put it up. brb
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Okay, all DIY PDF files are available by me.

Please contact me at niteqwill (at) gmail.com

and I will forward you the files.
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You might as well make a list of your DIY since they have been and continue to be so helpful to us
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Thanks.

H&R Sports were $150, Bilstein was $419 off ebay. Camber is car specific, not suspension specific, although it is a given with some (Tein, Race springs, etc.). My car needed no camber kit, I'm only off by hundredths of a degree.

PM me and we can talk about price and installation. It's all dependent around school and work. But my friend and I are willing to do any suspension install for a fee.
Where did you get bilstein shocks for 419??? The only one i found on ebay was 479....these ones right?>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BILST...48267355QQrdZ1
Tryin to do something like yours but with eibach prokit
oh yea just want to say THankyo thankyou thankyou for the DIY!!!
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Where did you get bilstein shocks for 419??? The only one i found on ebay was 479....these ones right?>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BILST...48267355QQrdZ1
Tryin to do something like yours but with eibach prokit
oh yea just want to say THankyo thankyou thankyou for the DIY!!!
I bought them off ebay. It's been awhile so I don't remember the seller's name or shop. But $479 sounds good.

Yes, those are the shocks that I used. To make sure, compare the part numbers before every purchase off eBay.

Good luck!
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:25 PM
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