Air Bag Recall
05-18-2016, 08:50 PM
#161
Im up by Toronto and Honda told me the parts wouldn't be available until the beginning of the fall but as soon as I got the rental car the parts seem to have magically arrived.
Took about 2 weeks to get approved for the rental and I've had the rental for almost 2 weeks. Theyre supposed to swap the air bag next Wednesday so the whole process took a little over a month.
Took about 2 weeks to get approved for the rental and I've had the rental for almost 2 weeks. Theyre supposed to swap the air bag next Wednesday so the whole process took a little over a month.
05-19-2016, 09:10 AM
#163
I've had my rental for...8 weeks and counting now. Maybe they're focusing on areas of higher risk first? Or moving east to west? Who knows...I haven't heard a peep yet on when I should get mine fixed. But hey, I've driven over 3000 miles that aren't adding to the wear and tear on my car so I can't really complain.
05-20-2016, 07:13 AM
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I actually spoke to my dealer's service manager yesterday asking for an update on parts. He straight out said they are prioritizing people in rentals first. I'm still waiting, having had a rental for a month now. Based upon Enterprise paperwork they're into a grand in rental costs for me so far (although that's probably somewhat discounted more with a back-end corporate agreement). My 84 year old Mom's VW has also been recalled, and I'm somewhat torn over getting her into a rental. On the one hand I want her car to get fixed fast, but on the other I'm fearful that an unfamiliar car will be a greater risk than the potential of the airbag being defective and being deployed. In any case it's clear that if you want your Acura to be fixed you need to demand an immediate rental replacement in the mean time.
05-20-2016, 07:42 AM
#166
mrgold35
I hope that is true about rentals get fixed first. It has been exactly 60 days since I picked up my rental (60 days X $30-$50 per day = $1800-$3000 so far). The good thing about having a full size truck for 2 months is I never want to own a full size truck.
05-20-2016, 11:06 AM
#167
Three Wheelin'
I actually spoke to my dealer's service manager yesterday asking for an update on parts. He straight out said they are prioritizing people in rentals first. I'm still waiting, having had a rental for a month now. Based upon Enterprise paperwork they're into a grand in rental costs for me so far (although that's probably somewhat discounted more with a back-end corporate agreement). My 84 year old Mom's VW has also been recalled, and I'm somewhat torn over getting her into a rental. On the one hand I want her car to get fixed fast, but on the other I'm fearful that an unfamiliar car will be a greater risk than the potential of the airbag being defective and being deployed. In any case it's clear that if you want your Acura to be fixed you need to demand an immediate rental replacement in the mean time.
For your mom, you can still get a rental. She doesn't HAVE to drive it. Just the fact that Acura is paying for a rental puts her closer to the front of the line for repairs.
05-20-2016, 12:50 PM
#168
I'm not so sure they prioritize based on who is in a rental.
We have had our rental longer than our daughter.
She had her recall completed a few days ago.
We have not been called.
You may already know the fix (temporary) involves a variation of the charge with desiccant to keep the propellant dry and stable.
It's been reported the risk is greater in high RH areas.
So would it not make sense to replace the units in the high RH areas first?
A rental is cheaper than another fatality in a higher risk area.
We have had our rental longer than our daughter.
She had her recall completed a few days ago.
We have not been called.
You may already know the fix (temporary) involves a variation of the charge with desiccant to keep the propellant dry and stable.
It's been reported the risk is greater in high RH areas.
So would it not make sense to replace the units in the high RH areas first?
A rental is cheaper than another fatality in a higher risk area.
05-20-2016, 01:34 PM
#169
I'm not so sure they prioritize based on who is in a rental.
We have had our rental longer than our daughter.
She had her recall completed a few days ago.
We have not been called.
You may already know the fix (temporary) involves a variation of the charge with desiccant to keep the propellant dry and stable.
It's been reported the risk is greater in high RH areas.
So would it not make sense to replace the units in the high RH areas first?
A rental is cheaper than another fatality in a higher risk area.
We have had our rental longer than our daughter.
She had her recall completed a few days ago.
We have not been called.
You may already know the fix (temporary) involves a variation of the charge with desiccant to keep the propellant dry and stable.
It's been reported the risk is greater in high RH areas.
So would it not make sense to replace the units in the high RH areas first?
A rental is cheaper than another fatality in a higher risk area.
The parts are different for different cars. I would imagine your car is different than your daughters'. Also perhaps hers was older? Could be a variety of things. Perhaps the inflators on hand don't fit your car.
05-20-2016, 05:31 PM
#170
Both our daughters '11 CRV and our '11 RDX use the same inflator module......NH167L module assy., driver. The only difference is the logo, H vs A.
"NHTSA has determined the root cause of the problem: airbags that use ammonium nitrate-based propellent without a chemical drying agent. (desiccant)
As postulated early on, environmental moisture, high temperatures, and age as associated with the defect that can improperly inflate the airbags and even send shrapnel into the occupant.
To date, there have been 10 deaths and more than 100 injuries due to this problem in the U.S.
Since age has been established as a key factor in most of the Takata airbag ruptures to date, it’s especially important for owners of older recalled cars to get this work done."
Just the facts...
"NHTSA has determined the root cause of the problem: airbags that use ammonium nitrate-based propellent without a chemical drying agent. (desiccant)
As postulated early on, environmental moisture, high temperatures, and age as associated with the defect that can improperly inflate the airbags and even send shrapnel into the occupant.
To date, there have been 10 deaths and more than 100 injuries due to this problem in the U.S.
Since age has been established as a key factor in most of the Takata airbag ruptures to date, it’s especially important for owners of older recalled cars to get this work done."
Just the facts...
05-21-2016, 12:35 PM
#171
Both our daughters '11 CRV and our '11 RDX use the same inflator module......NH167L module assy., driver. The only difference is the logo, H vs A.
"NHTSA has determined the root cause of the problem: airbags that use ammonium nitrate-based propellent without a chemical drying agent. (desiccant)
As postulated early on, environmental moisture, high temperatures, and age as associated with the defect that can improperly inflate the airbags and even send shrapnel into the occupant.
To date, there have been 10 deaths and more than 100 injuries due to this problem in the U.S.
Since age has been established as a key factor in most of the Takata airbag ruptures to date, it’s especially important for owners of older recalled cars to get this work done."
Just the facts...
"NHTSA has determined the root cause of the problem: airbags that use ammonium nitrate-based propellent without a chemical drying agent. (desiccant)
As postulated early on, environmental moisture, high temperatures, and age as associated with the defect that can improperly inflate the airbags and even send shrapnel into the occupant.
To date, there have been 10 deaths and more than 100 injuries due to this problem in the U.S.
Since age has been established as a key factor in most of the Takata airbag ruptures to date, it’s especially important for owners of older recalled cars to get this work done."
Just the facts...
I'm surprised everyone is able to get these nice rentals though... The rental company my Acura dealer had me rent from wouldnt even rent me the RDX they had on their lot for my existing RDX. Apparently they only approved $40/day for the rental and the RDX was more then that. Maybe it was just the rental company, they did seem overpriced... and ignorant.
05-21-2016, 01:25 PM
#172
I do think the two divisions (Honda and Acura) are probably handled differently.
Also another possibility could be when you received your rental vehicles. Both at the same time?
My 2002 TL has had its driver inflator replaced twice; once in 2010, and a second time last year (2015). Apparently they redesigned it as they found out more about why the inflators were exploding. My car was the same model of Acura that someone died in via the defective inflator.
Last edited by lbotez; 05-21-2016 at 01:30 PM.
06-02-2016, 08:34 AM
#173
Well, I hope I get back in my RDX as soon as possible. I'm currently running a Dodge journey and the a/c is not that good. Definitely not that big of an issue. It just made me like my RDX even more. And my RDX is 7-8 years older than the Dodge.
06-02-2016, 01:24 PM
#174
Three Wheelin'
If you ever read TTAC, the Journey is considered one of the worst cars ever. Luckily, I got a BMW X3 as a rental, so I'm quite happy for them to take as long as they want getting the inflator parts!
06-04-2016, 07:38 PM
#177
Three Wheelin'
My local Enterprise office was happy to keep swapping cars to whatever I wanted, based on availability. I was originally in a Dodge minivan because all of their premium cars were out, and that was the longest 4 days of my life.
06-05-2016, 08:24 AM
#178
Had to go in to the dealer to open a service ticket on Friday so they could order the replacement part(s) for my 08. I guess there was a miscommunication - thought they'd done that already. Anyone left waiting like I was might want to check on that...if I hadn't called a few times (kept getting different answers from different service advisors) I wouldn't have known that nothing was happening.
Anyway, the dealership is in Savannah and the service manager said they had about 400 people on the list and they'd fixed about 40 of those cars so far. Apparently they're getting replacements a little faster now so they hope to pick up the pace a bit this month.
Anyway, the dealership is in Savannah and the service manager said they had about 400 people on the list and they'd fixed about 40 of those cars so far. Apparently they're getting replacements a little faster now so they hope to pick up the pace a bit this month.
06-07-2016, 01:36 PM
#180
Saw this today...
UPDATE 6/7/2016: The owner of a 2006 Nissan X-Trail SUV has filed a suit against Takata and Nissan for wrist and head injuries she sustained in an October 2015 crash in Japan. The vehicle had been recalled for defective airbag inflators, but parts weren’t available at the time the woman’s husband took the SUV to a dealership to get it fixed. According to Automotive News, this is the first suit in Japan against Takata and an automaker for these airbags.
Acura recall: 2002–2003, 2009–2014 TL; 2003 CL; 2003–2006 MDX; 2005–2012 RL; 2007–2016 RDX; 2009–2011 TSX; 2010–2013 ZDX; 2013–2016 ILX
UPDATE 6/7/2016: The owner of a 2006 Nissan X-Trail SUV has filed a suit against Takata and Nissan for wrist and head injuries she sustained in an October 2015 crash in Japan. The vehicle had been recalled for defective airbag inflators, but parts weren’t available at the time the woman’s husband took the SUV to a dealership to get it fixed. According to Automotive News, this is the first suit in Japan against Takata and an automaker for these airbags.
Acura recall: 2002–2003, 2009–2014 TL; 2003 CL; 2003–2006 MDX; 2005–2012 RL; 2007–2016 RDX; 2009–2011 TSX; 2010–2013 ZDX; 2013–2016 ILX
06-09-2016, 01:37 PM
#181
Our recall was completed today. Glad to be back in our RDX.
They only replaced the drivers side unit on ours. Some recalls are for both driver and passenger units.
More info from Honda Acura...
Total Vehicles Recalled
Approximately 8.5 million Honda and Acura vehicles in the U.S. are subject to a recall or Safety Improvement Campaign related to Takata airbag inflator ruptures. Because certain, specific vehicles are subject to more than one recall (for example, both a driver and passenger airbag inflator recall) approximately 12.2 million total Takata airbag inflators have been recalled.
Injuries & Deaths
Honda has confirmed nine deaths and more than 100 injuries in the U.S. related to ruptures of driver’s front airbag inflators supplied by Takata. All of these events occurred in vehicles now covered by recalls and/or campaigns. Honda sincerely apologizes to all individuals impacted by this issue, and extends our deepest, heartfelt sympathies to the families of those who have lost loved ones.
Date of Crash Location of Crash
5/27/09 Oklahoma
12/24/09 Virginia
9/3/13 California
9/7/14 California
9/29/14 Florida
1/18/15 Texas
4/5/15 Louisiana
7/22/15 Pennsylvania
3/31/16 Texas
In addition, an automaker other than Honda has experienced a fatality in the U.S. due to the rupture of a Takata airbag inflator, so the industry as a whole has experienced 10 fatalities in the U.S.
Outside the U.S., Honda has confirmed two deaths in Malaysia related to the rupture of a single-stage Takata driver’s front airbag inflator, which is a different type of inflator that was never utilized in Honda or Acura vehicles in the U.S.
Recall Repair Completion Rate
In recent months, Honda and Acura dealers have replaced upwards of 20,000 Takata airbag inflators on a daily basis. This pace of repairs is unprecedented in Honda’s history. In total, approximately 5.6 million Takata inflators have been replaced. Considering the scale of the recall and the age of the vehicles involved, Honda is making steady progress.
Repair Completion Rate as of 5/26/16
National 47.2%
High Absolute Humidity (HAH) Zone* 47.0%
To compare this completion rate with other industry recalls, Honda analyzed 14 unrelated automotive recall campaigns, with a combined volume of more than eight million vehicles. While Honda found completion rates of up to 80 percent for vehicles in the first year of ownership, the company also found that the completion percentage declines with each passing year, to around 33 percent in the 9th and 10th year of ownership. A significant number of vehicles affected by the Takata airbag inflator recalls are now or soon to be more than 15 years old.
*Honda’s HAH zone is broader than the area originally identified by NHTSA and includes: Florida; Hawaii; Georgia; Alabama; Louisiana; Mississippi; Texas; South Carolina; California; North Carolina; Arkansas; Saipan; American Samoa; the U.S. Virgin Islands; and Puerto Rico.
They only replaced the drivers side unit on ours. Some recalls are for both driver and passenger units.
More info from Honda Acura...
Total Vehicles Recalled
Approximately 8.5 million Honda and Acura vehicles in the U.S. are subject to a recall or Safety Improvement Campaign related to Takata airbag inflator ruptures. Because certain, specific vehicles are subject to more than one recall (for example, both a driver and passenger airbag inflator recall) approximately 12.2 million total Takata airbag inflators have been recalled.
Injuries & Deaths
Honda has confirmed nine deaths and more than 100 injuries in the U.S. related to ruptures of driver’s front airbag inflators supplied by Takata. All of these events occurred in vehicles now covered by recalls and/or campaigns. Honda sincerely apologizes to all individuals impacted by this issue, and extends our deepest, heartfelt sympathies to the families of those who have lost loved ones.
Date of Crash Location of Crash
5/27/09 Oklahoma
12/24/09 Virginia
9/3/13 California
9/7/14 California
9/29/14 Florida
1/18/15 Texas
4/5/15 Louisiana
7/22/15 Pennsylvania
3/31/16 Texas
In addition, an automaker other than Honda has experienced a fatality in the U.S. due to the rupture of a Takata airbag inflator, so the industry as a whole has experienced 10 fatalities in the U.S.
Outside the U.S., Honda has confirmed two deaths in Malaysia related to the rupture of a single-stage Takata driver’s front airbag inflator, which is a different type of inflator that was never utilized in Honda or Acura vehicles in the U.S.
Recall Repair Completion Rate
In recent months, Honda and Acura dealers have replaced upwards of 20,000 Takata airbag inflators on a daily basis. This pace of repairs is unprecedented in Honda’s history. In total, approximately 5.6 million Takata inflators have been replaced. Considering the scale of the recall and the age of the vehicles involved, Honda is making steady progress.
Repair Completion Rate as of 5/26/16
National 47.2%
High Absolute Humidity (HAH) Zone* 47.0%
To compare this completion rate with other industry recalls, Honda analyzed 14 unrelated automotive recall campaigns, with a combined volume of more than eight million vehicles. While Honda found completion rates of up to 80 percent for vehicles in the first year of ownership, the company also found that the completion percentage declines with each passing year, to around 33 percent in the 9th and 10th year of ownership. A significant number of vehicles affected by the Takata airbag inflator recalls are now or soon to be more than 15 years old.
*Honda’s HAH zone is broader than the area originally identified by NHTSA and includes: Florida; Hawaii; Georgia; Alabama; Louisiana; Mississippi; Texas; South Carolina; California; North Carolina; Arkansas; Saipan; American Samoa; the U.S. Virgin Islands; and Puerto Rico.
06-09-2016, 09:57 PM
#184
Since March 25 for me...whenever I take the RDX for a spin (every few weeks) I am reminded how quiet and comfortable it is, even compared against new cars. Then again, I'm not exactly sad that the last 5000 miles or so I've driven are wearing and tearing other cars. 
06-11-2016, 12:48 AM
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Got an e-mail from my dealership yesterday that my parts are in. Now I have to run out and get a replacement battery to get it started again - original 5 year old crap OEM one gave it up sitting so long. Been in rental since 4/20.
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06-14-2016, 12:30 PM
#186
Three Wheelin'
I still periodically drive my RDX so the battery stays charged and everything is moving. I usually drive it early morning on the weekends, when traffic is minimal and chances of an accident are very low.
06-15-2016, 11:07 AM
#188
mrgold35
Just got the call today!
I'm scheduled to take my RDX in on Thursday, 6/16/16, to replace the airbag after 13 weeks in a rental.
I'm scheduled to take my RDX in on Thursday, 6/16/16, to replace the airbag after 13 weeks in a rental.
06-16-2016, 10:08 AM
#189
mrgold35
I turned in the rental early and got a receipt just to see how much it is costing Acura/Takata:
$56.67 for rental+taxes+fees X 86 days = $4,674.23 (My RDX blue-book of around $11k-$13k with +130k on odo)
No matter the cost to Acura/Honda/Takata, I know the $$$ will eventually trickle down for the consumer to pay over the next couple of years.
$56.67 for rental+taxes+fees X 86 days = $4,674.23 (My RDX blue-book of around $11k-$13k with +130k on odo)
No matter the cost to Acura/Honda/Takata, I know the $$$ will eventually trickle down for the consumer to pay over the next couple of years.
06-16-2016, 12:04 PM
#190
Looks like lots of completions in the last week. Glad to finally get back in ours. It's great to roll into it, feel it get up on the pipe, and pull hard as you have to feather the throttle to whoa up a bit. It just feels right.
06-16-2016, 06:48 PM
#191
I turned in the rental early and got a receipt just to see how much it is costing Acura/Takata:
$56.67 for rental+taxes+fees X 86 days = $4,674.23 (My RDX blue-book of around $11k-$13k with +130k on odo)
No matter the cost to Acura/Honda/Takata, I know the $$$ will eventually trickle down for the consumer to pay over the next couple of years.
$56.67 for rental+taxes+fees X 86 days = $4,674.23 (My RDX blue-book of around $11k-$13k with +130k on odo)
No matter the cost to Acura/Honda/Takata, I know the $$$ will eventually trickle down for the consumer to pay over the next couple of years.
06-19-2016, 08:55 AM
#192
Let hope the rental speeds things up. I'm on week 5 of my rental. Dodge journey is gone but I'm in a dodge ram. The a/c is 10x better than the journey. I'm still eyeing the new f150 but they won't let me get it for some reason. I just wanna get back in my car but I think it's time to yank the bumper to reseal the headlights and clean the foglight before having to bring her in. Glad some of you guys are getting yours fixed.
06-19-2016, 11:21 PM
#193
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Yup mine done too same day as Mrgold35. So glad to get rid of the F150. The recall was a blessing in disguise because I no longer want a fullsize truck. I was very underwhelmed and I didn't pickup any ladies except my wife 
06-21-2016, 04:13 PM
#195
vancouver member here, got my RDX and TL replaced last saturday. they even replaced some of the TLs on the lot and are able to start selling them.
they did a poor job with the RDX the whole center portion of the steering wheel is misaligned, have to bring it back this thursday.
they did a poor job with the RDX the whole center portion of the steering wheel is misaligned, have to bring it back this thursday.
06-22-2016, 11:42 AM
#196
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The Honda dealer who did the recall on my RDX did a pretty whack job of aligning the airbag/horn cover on mine too. Like on the area by the cruise control buttons the cover is flush with the trim and there is no travel when depressing for the horn. Over by the audio buttons the cover sticks out nearly half an inch and there is travel when depressing the horn like it always had been before. Kind of frustrating but I haven't said anything yet.
06-23-2016, 03:00 PM
#197
The Honda dealer who did the recall on my RDX did a pretty whack job of aligning the airbag/horn cover on mine too. Like on the area by the cruise control buttons the cover is flush with the trim and there is no travel when depressing for the horn. Over by the audio buttons the cover sticks out nearly half an inch and there is travel when depressing the horn like it always had been before. Kind of frustrating but I haven't said anything yet.
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06-23-2016, 05:00 PM
#198
Three Wheelin'
That kind of fitment is totally unacceptable, so I would expect nothing less of them to fix it properly. Or if they can't fix it, order a new steering wheel to make it right.
06-27-2016, 11:19 AM
#199
AKYPA Owner
update: got airbag replaced last Thursday, brought the car in on Thur noon and picked up Friday morning and dropped off the rental. Dealer did a complementary VA state inspection, since it expired back in April, been in rental since March... I had to call in on Wed after i found out that the service advisor who was handling my case is no longer with the dealership... he used to text me updates every week or so, but i have not heard from him for over a month... so i called. Was told that service dept manager moved me to the top of the list and they apologized for the delay. Overall i am very pleased how Acura/dealership handled the whole recall situation.
