rocket_pup

Do you think the V6 Acura TLX is considered a "sport sedan"? (Just curious what other people think.)

It has some requisite features of what I would a "sport sedan" (in no particular order):

paddle shifters
relatively high revving engine
~300 hp
Sport mode transmission
side bolsters on seats
firm suspension (somewhat)

justnspace

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no.

the Acura TLX is an entry-level-luxury-car with sport bits thrown in

justnspace

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the Chevy SS is a true sports sedan.
V8, with four doors that comes with three pedals.

and rightly so, as the engineers crafted it after the infamous M5 sports sedan

TacoBello

I would call the TLX a weak consideration to be classified a sport sedan. It's pretty much as sporty as what most other sedans these days are, that I'd classify as being normal. Maybe a bit better in some areas.

Id call the Q50 Red, or whatever it's called, more of a sport sedan.

justnspace

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I used to consider the maxima as a sports sedan..even the marketing on it called it "the four door sports car"
but now that it has a CVT in it...I agree with you, taco...its just a regular sedan in a sea of regular sedans

pyrodan007

I would call it more of a "sport sedan shell". It has all the visual elements of performance but at it's heart, it's just a regular people mover. Even Toyota has boarded the sport design train with its regular cars. It does in no way make them faster, but it sure does make them sale lol

iforyou

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It's just a entry-level luxury sedan with tiny bit of sportiness.

dezymond

This.

5 Acuras

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All depends how you drive it, IMHO.

jjsC5

I have to agree with. Out of the posts above, and I think it's a shame they have not built a sport version. I think the car has the basic bones, Acura just doesn't seem to care. The 3G (I think) offered a true sport version that was likely not hard or expensive to do and it reached a number of enthusiasts.

For those who have. It seen it yet, Genesis just showed the 2018 G80's and are going to offer a "sport" in the U.S. They are showing it in white which to me may now be the nicest sport sedan for anywhere near the money.

F23A4

Validation as a 4DSC died when Nissan transitioned from the 5.5G to the 6G Maxima. The Nissan lineup has abandoned all sportiness in their sedans. Even the new Nismo Sentra is barely more powerful than the mid-trim Civic.

On topic, the term 'Sports Sedan' is subjective. The ATS-V is the quintessential sports sedan to me. The TLX is a sportier version of the Accord V6 sedan.

BEAR-AvHistory

Only in the Acura advertisements. Acura does not even offer proper tires for it like they did the earlier TL's. Nice car but no Sport Sedan.

justnspace

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I consider the ATS-V a sports sedan!

justnspace

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if it has the V designation....AUTOMATIC racecar

mapleloaf

I would suggest that the large majority of TLX owners really don't care whether it fits a particular definition of "sports sedan". However, since you posed the question, I would call it more of a "sporty sedan". As I have said many times, it's an excellent all around sedan, similar to an Audi A4 or a BMW 323/28.

pyrodan007

Well the 2.4 TLX may compete with the 4 cyclinder A4 / 320/328i. But when factoring in AWD, you must compare with the 3.5 TLX. That's when engine size and sportiness must be factored in, then you need to compare with the S4/340. The TLX may be similar to other cars, but not when sportiness is equally and fairly factored in.

I'm not factoring in money since that's not linked to sportiness.

justnspace

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^well,money DOES play a part.
to get the aforementioned cars above in V, AMG, M designation...you do pay a premium

KeithL

Those features don't qualify to sport sedan and I barley think the TLX qualifies for a near luxury sedan. To me a sport sedan means at minimum sport suspension, tires, brakes, engine (HP/Torque), then on top of that throw better seating, steering wheel, styling , seating, etc... Then you are starting to get to a Sport Sedan.

rocket_pup

So if you drove a Daewoo Leganza like you stole it, that would be a sports sedan?

jjsC5

i got interrupted before I finished and proof read this post his morning. Fixed it above.

paperboy42190

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I definitely think the TLX has lost its sporty edge compared to previous TL's. The seats don't hold my sides as well as my 07 type S did, and the 9AT downshifts too slow to be considered sporty.

jjsC5

keith, I expect better from you .
How do you define sport suspension, more hp, more torque etc? Styling? Does that rule out the "Bangle" BMWs of a few years ago?

I'm mostly just messing with you. The TLX does need some of all that.
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justnspace

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hello, happy Thanksgiving!
Glad you're still posting on the boards, my Houston friend
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BEAR-AvHistory

Was a time when they sold 70,000 TL's a year that very many did like the idea that there was a legitimate & cost effective Sport Sedan version - 6MT, LSD, Heavy Duty Suspension, Summer High Performance tires, Supportive Seats etc - available as a standard product choice.

Even those who chose not to go for the sport version still had the product image that the TL was a hot car to enjoy.

Its not possible to prove a negative but its easy to wonder about the correlation of the missing 30,000 unit sales & how many were performance buyers as opposed to those who were purely moving up to a higher end product.

hddnav

About as much of a sports sedan as a Camry SE, except the Camry is way more reliable..

TacoBello

you're right, it totally is the quintessential sport sedan... But have you seen the price tag? You can almost have two TLXs for the price

saturno_v

Be careful with your words guys...you may get banned....

5 Acuras

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C'mon, I'm sure I'm not the only guy who fantasizes about being a NASCAR or Indy driver regardless of what car I'm driving.

F23A4

I entertained the idea of trading up for the V.

TacoBello

That's a bit of a price jump. Very nice looking car, though.

BEAR-AvHistory

Jersey Guy? What exit?

F23A4

Somerset County; pretty far from the Parkway......thank goodness. :-)

F23A4

Incidentally, that ATS-V had 1,700 miles on the clock and the ask was $53k.

Mr Hyde

There are insane deals to be had on the ATS & CTS including the V models. Nice cars, but they just aren't selling well.

Cars like the ATS-V, CTS, M3 are the gold standard for sports sedans, many would even consider the 340 & S4, but the TLX while having some sporting intentions, is no sports sedan. It's more like the mid range, high volume sellers for the models I listed.

justnspace

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^sedans in general havent been selling well.

I believe we'll start to see a shift in production PRETTY soon, as things are only getting more uglier.

Ford and another manufacture has moved their sedan production to Mexico.
it's all about CUV's and trucks in America

BEAR-AvHistory

Know what you mean, was at exit 98 on the GSP. Avoided going into the city on Monday & Friday during the summer.

AZuser

It's as much a sport sedan as the Honda Accord Sport which actually has Sport in its name.

Mr Hyde

I actually just read something talking about this, can't remember where the article was. I guess with gas prices where they are, SUVs will continue to sell like hot cakes, but that makes me sad. Don't think I ever took the long way home driving my wife's SUVs.

justnspace

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^its the older generation, who are getting older, no longer wanting a jarring sport car.
but it's also my generation who likes the ride sharing-non ownership platforms(uber)

on top of that, people generally like riding on a higher platform than a sedan offers

the death of sedans are quickly upon us

CheeseyPoofs McNut

Ha - my wife recently bought a 2016 Honda CRV (they're practically *giving* them away to clear the way for the 2017's) and I have to say - I enjoy driving it around. The front and side visibility is superb and it drives more like a car than a truck. Granted there is nothing sporty about it but it's certainly not a bad experience.