TLX 6cyl AWD vs GS 350 AWD
08-19-2016, 04:46 PM
#81
Absolutely....is my opinion (well not only mine)....the "general consensus" is that the ATS is a fantastic sport sedan....still sales languish....sales success does not necessarily means that particular car has a better performance.....look at the Camry......
By the way the Q50 is selling just fine in its segment......and similarly optioned costs more than the TLX.
By the way the Q50 is selling just fine in its segment......and similarly optioned costs more than the TLX.
08-19-2016, 05:22 PM
#82
Why bring the camry to the conversation? Every knows thats its a car for the masses and its a daily driver. Once you move up to the upscale brands, people just dont think point a to point b... they look at other things as well. As i said if everone saw how great the q50 is, like you do, more premium car buyers would be choosing that.
Finally, let me add a comment..and yes it is my personal opinion, I may be totally wrong....I think the TLX is selling decently because Acura is still riding on the coattail of its reliability and quality reputation (which the TLX has somewhat betrayed with the gearbox fiasco) but mainstream sedans are getting so good and some of them leaping the TLX that if Acura does not do something about it it's not going to last, they will run out of the true believers, the faithful....today I think you need to have your head examined to pick a TLX V6 over a Fusion Sport or a 4 banger TLX over a new Malibu Turbo.
With the heavy discounts because of the approaching end of production, I bet that shopping around you can get a Chrysler 200 V6 AWD loaded to the hilt (more tech and luxury amenities compared to the TLX including 19" wheel and 245 tires) for 30K or even less.......
Not to mention the so called semi-premium brands where Acura competes directly.
I had a chance last week to sit in the new restyled Lincoln MKZ....let me tell you that its interiors are damn impressive (soft plastic everywhere including "under the waist line") compared to the pre-restyling, assembly precision, a notorious weak point for the recent Lincoln, has been finally fixed......you can get the 3.0 twin turbo starting at 39K....the European Passat is probably heading for our shores as well....
The new Buick Regal is around the corner and I bet, as the new MXZ, will leave the TLX in the dust.....
I realize that Acura is probably making money hand over fist with the TLX....only one model instead of two, cut content left and right compared to the TL and asking similar prices...but, again, the good times may not last.
Acura think we are still in 2006 where the choice was between junk quality, "under teched" American cars, boring mainstream sedans and expensive German irons, they had a space back then with their approach....today I'm not so sure....
Last edited by saturno_v; 08-19-2016 at 05:34 PM.
08-19-2016, 05:35 PM
#83
The Lexux ES is a great seller among premium cars but hardly sporty or performance oriented...evidently TLX owners value other things other than performance or a sophisticated layout.
Finally, let me add a comment..and yes it is my personal opinion, I may be totally wrong....I think the TLX is selling decently because Acura is still riding on the coattail of its reliability and quality reputation (which the TLX has somewhat betrayed with the gearbox fiasco) but mainstream sedans are getting so good and some of them leaping the TLX that if Acura does not do something about it it's not going to last, they will run out of the true believers, the faithful....today I think you need to have your head examined to pick a TLX V6 over a Fusion Sport or a 4 banger TLX over a new Malibu Turbo.
With the heavy discounts because of the approaching end of production, I bet that shopping around you can get a Chrysler 200 V6 AWD loaded to the hilt (more tech and luxury amenities compared to the TLX including 19" wheel and 245 tires) for 30K or even less.......
Not to mention the so called semi-premium brands where Acura competes directly.
I had a chance last week to sit in the new restyled Lincoln MKZ....let me tell you that its interiors are damn impressive (soft plastic everywhere including "under the waist line") compared to the pre-restyling, assembly precision, a notorious weak point for the recent Lincoln, has been finally fixed......you can get the 3.0 twin turbo starting at 39K....the European Passat is probably heading for our shores as well....
The new Buick Regal is around the corner and I bet, as the new MXZ, will leave the TLX in the dust.....
I realize that Acura is probably making money hand over fist with the TLX....only one model instead of two, cut content left and right compared to the TL and asking similar prices...but, again, the good times may not last.
Acura think we are still in 2006 where the choice was between junk quality, "under teched" American cars, boring mainstream sedans and expensive German irons, they had a space back then with their approach....today I'm not so sure....
Finally, let me add a comment..and yes it is my personal opinion, I may be totally wrong....I think the TLX is selling decently because Acura is still riding on the coattail of its reliability and quality reputation (which the TLX has somewhat betrayed with the gearbox fiasco) but mainstream sedans are getting so good and some of them leaping the TLX that if Acura does not do something about it it's not going to last, they will run out of the true believers, the faithful....today I think you need to have your head examined to pick a TLX V6 over a Fusion Sport or a 4 banger TLX over a new Malibu Turbo.
With the heavy discounts because of the approaching end of production, I bet that shopping around you can get a Chrysler 200 V6 AWD loaded to the hilt (more tech and luxury amenities compared to the TLX including 19" wheel and 245 tires) for 30K or even less.......
Not to mention the so called semi-premium brands where Acura competes directly.
I had a chance last week to sit in the new restyled Lincoln MKZ....let me tell you that its interiors are damn impressive (soft plastic everywhere including "under the waist line") compared to the pre-restyling, assembly precision, a notorious weak point for the recent Lincoln, has been finally fixed......you can get the 3.0 twin turbo starting at 39K....the European Passat is probably heading for our shores as well....
The new Buick Regal is around the corner and I bet, as the new MXZ, will leave the TLX in the dust.....
I realize that Acura is probably making money hand over fist with the TLX....only one model instead of two, cut content left and right compared to the TL and asking similar prices...but, again, the good times may not last.
Acura think we are still in 2006 where the choice was between junk quality, "under teched" American cars, boring mainstream sedans and expensive German irons, they had a space back then with their approach....today I'm not so sure....
Last edited by mondster; 08-19-2016 at 05:40 PM.
08-19-2016, 06:17 PM
#84
08-19-2016, 10:05 PM
#85
Racer
Nah, like everyone else I'm just tired of seeing you stupid ass, useless comments in this forum. It's like me going over to the Q50 forum and saying how much their car sucks and the TLX is better, it's just odd and out of place. No one likes you in this forum as you bash our TLXs constantly, I don't understand why you post so much in a forum for a brand you don't even own a car from, much less the model. It's just weird.
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08-19-2016, 10:33 PM
#86
Senior Moderator
59K for a fully loaded luxury midsize sedan AWD with a twin turbo 400 HP engine, real sport brakes, adaptive suspension and an entirely more refined layout/chassis do you think is crazy?? Drive one and report back.....I argue that it is actually a better value than a 45K TLX SH-AWD which get smoked in performance and tech by a Ford Fusion Sport which cost less and cannot shake a Chrysler 200 ....and all of them (including 3 Series, MB C, Audi A4, etc...) are not as good value as a Hyundai Genesis, Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger or a Chevrolet SS as long as these are around.....
08-19-2016, 11:26 PM
#87
By the way the Q50 Red Sport is not Infiniti answer to M and AMG cars....originally that would have been the Eau Rouge but Infiniti canceled that version.
08-20-2016, 10:44 PM
#88
Azine Jabroni
Nah, like everyone else I'm just tired of seeing you stupid ass, useless comments in this forum. It's like me going over to the Q50 forum and saying how much their car sucks and the TLX is better, it's just odd and out of place. No one likes you in this forum as you bash our TLXs constantly, I don't understand why you post so much in a forum for a brand you don't even own a car from, much less the model. It's just weird.
He he has every right to be here but he has torched any of his credibility ages ago.
08-21-2016, 12:02 AM
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08-21-2016, 05:41 AM
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Pretty sure you will find the 340i quicker out of the box than the Q50Red. . You can add to that the Track Handling Package with variable rate steering, real time adaptive suspension with selectable performance levels, M-Performance brakes & Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires. Nice deal for $1790 MSRP. Don't think the Infiniti has selectable performance real time shocks, could be wrong?
If the car needs more grunt the current version of the MPPK/MPE brings the rated power up to 360HP & the 0-60 time down to 4.1. Last version in my car was rated at 342HP & 4.4 0-60. I believe in its segment it will be very hard to find a car to out run the 340/440 for $60K.
Back on topic, I think the OP would be happier with the GS-350. Its naturally a higher class car & Lexus is a luxury brand with great brand recognition.
If the car needs more grunt the current version of the MPPK/MPE brings the rated power up to 360HP & the 0-60 time down to 4.1. Last version in my car was rated at 342HP & 4.4 0-60. I believe in its segment it will be very hard to find a car to out run the 340/440 for $60K.
Back on topic, I think the OP would be happier with the GS-350. Its naturally a higher class car & Lexus is a luxury brand with great brand recognition.
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08-21-2016, 11:48 AM
#91
No, you are just being a troll. Comparing a Fusion and a 200 to a TLX, yeah you are a troll.
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08-21-2016, 01:07 PM
#92
Banned
Ah ah ah! You highly think of yourself (irrationally, as we can see that you live beyond your intellectual means) and you think that it is smart to go a TLX forum, constantly dismiss it, and say to owners that they should have bought or should buy something else. FAIL. Stupid behavior
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08-21-2016, 02:32 PM
#93
08-21-2016, 02:36 PM
#94
Pretty sure you will find the 340i quicker out of the box than the Q50Red. . You can add to that the Track Handling Package with variable rate steering, real time adaptive suspension with selectable performance levels, M-Performance brakes & Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires. Nice deal for $1790 MSRP. Don't think the Infiniti has selectable performance real time shocks, could be wrong?
If the car needs more grunt the current version of the MPPK/MPE brings the rated power up to 360HP & the 0-60 time down to 4.1. Last version in my car was rated at 342HP & 4.4 0-60. I believe in its segment it will be very hard to find a car to out run the 340/440 for $60K.
Back on topic, I think the OP would be happier with the GS-350. Its naturally a higher class car & Lexus is a luxury brand with great brand recognition.
If the car needs more grunt the current version of the MPPK/MPE brings the rated power up to 360HP & the 0-60 time down to 4.1. Last version in my car was rated at 342HP & 4.4 0-60. I believe in its segment it will be very hard to find a car to out run the 340/440 for $60K.
Back on topic, I think the OP would be happier with the GS-350. Its naturally a higher class car & Lexus is a luxury brand with great brand recognition.
Yes, real time selectable shocks for the Red Sport 400 Bear...a 340 faster with both of them wearing performance tires?? We will see.....You will be able to chip a Red Sport too Bear....
Current 340i MSport manual tested by C&D does 0-60 in 4.8, just a hair quicker than the 335i with a stick.....
08-21-2016, 05:44 PM
#95
Banned
TLX 5.8s
340i 5.9s
So from a stop at idle, the TLX has a genuine chance to be ahead by a nose, f*ck the torque curve.
Do you even have a point or just making noise again, as per your trolling track record? Come on son; do better than sounding as the redneck you are; I have seen so many of people like you.
The TLX might not be a great car, but is a very good one where Nissan Q50 is just a good one; my daughter loves her 1999 Altima.
Last edited by Saintor; 08-21-2016 at 05:58 PM.
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08-21-2016, 06:57 PM
#97
Car&Driver 5-60mph
TLX 5.8s
340i 5.9s
So from a stop at idle, the TLX has a genuine chance to be ahead by a nose, f*ck the torque curve.
Do you even have a point or just making noise again, as per your trolling track record? Come on son; do better than sounding as the redneck you are; I have seen so many of people like you.
The TLX might not be a great car, but is a very good one where Nissan Q50 is just a good one; my daughter loves her 1999 Altima.
TLX 5.8s
340i 5.9s
So from a stop at idle, the TLX has a genuine chance to be ahead by a nose, f*ck the torque curve.
Do you even have a point or just making noise again, as per your trolling track record? Come on son; do better than sounding as the redneck you are; I have seen so many of people like you.
The TLX might not be a great car, but is a very good one where Nissan Q50 is just a good one; my daughter loves her 1999 Altima.
TLX vs. 335i?? ahahahahaha
What is this Comedy Central?? Seriously, I think the TX has a chance against an M3.....
08-21-2016, 07:02 PM
#98
Banned
Oddly you no longer talk about numbers.
Again, how do you explain;
Car&Driver 5-60mph
TLX 5.8s
340i 5.9s
Those are real life numbers without launch-control. Oh well you can't. lol.
Again, how do you explain;
Car&Driver 5-60mph
TLX 5.8s
340i 5.9s
Those are real life numbers without launch-control. Oh well you can't. lol.
08-21-2016, 09:00 PM
#99
Azine Jabroni
Spare us your bullshit analysis, lest we all wind up with a shit Q50 like yours.
Last edited by kurtatx; 08-21-2016 at 09:02 PM.
08-29-2016, 03:57 PM
#100
Senior Moderator
Enough guys.
Saturn again enough with the trolling. The only person you seem to be convincing of anything is yourself, so take your solo conversation elsewhere.
Saturn again enough with the trolling. The only person you seem to be convincing of anything is yourself, so take your solo conversation elsewhere.
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