robster80

are all these issues the TLX is having mostly with the 6cylinder model or does the 4cyl have the same issues? im in market for a new car and have been looking at a TL (13 or 14 model) , or even a TLX provided i like it and can get a decent deal on one. i really like the look of the car but all these issues is swaying my decision back to the TL. I like having power so im hesitant about trying a 4cylinder. just wondering if i should give the TLX a look and test drive the 4cyl? or stick to looking at the TL ?

justnspace

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test drive test drive test drive.
go for an extended test drive.

ppl who take 15 minute test drives simply cannot get a real feel for cars.
any issues WILL show up on an extended test drive.
this goes for used and new cars!

ggesq

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Test drive both the 4 and the 6. The 16 MY seems to be much better than the 15's and now the 17's are hitting the lots.

robster80

after seeing photos of the supposed '18 model i think ima hold off for one more year

mapleloaf

I had a 15 3.5 SH-AWD Tech and now a 16 2.4 Tech. I prefer the 8 speed DCT on the 4 cylinder, however, having said that, the 9 speed on the 16 and up is somewhat improved. Both are excellent engines. Overall, I find the 2.4 still has plenty of power for my needs and the fuel economy is excellent. All this being said, test drive each extensively and go from there.

Midnight Mystery

So basically, do you perfer to floor a 4, or drive a V6 normal...

It seems like the 2.4 still achieves 0-60 in 6.7 seconds...

Either way, they both seem good, I'd just be worried about the transmission...

mcmdds1

I've had an early build 2015 4 cylinder base since Oct '15. A couple of transmission hiccups early on that were smoothed out with 2 software updates. 32,500 miles so far with no major issues. Overall, a very good car for the $$.

mcmdds1

Correction: had it since Oct '14 not '15

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I've got an early build as well - purchased mine in early September of 2014. I've had a couple software updates for the DCT and it's 95% fine. I still get the very occasional klunkly downshift into 1st gear but nothing like the kick from behind before the updates. Overall I would buy the car again with no fear - it's not a perfect DCT but it's very good and not something that should scare someone away from making the purchase like the early builds on the V6 with the ZF tranny.

robster80

i was thinking the 2.4 was more like 0-60 in 8. something seconds. at least on everymandrivers video

Midnight Mystery

That makes more sense!!!

robster80

one thing i dont understand is how some say its "bland" or dont like the design,etc. i think its one of the best looking cars ive ever seen in my life. im basically drooling over one but i know the '18 models will have a different grill and exposed exhaust so im thinking maybe just wait on those

justnspace

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^subjective! what you may like, I may not! and vice versa

there are people who like understated items. Not all like to be flashy.

wlkeel

I'm in the same boat. About 11,000 miles and no problems at all.

ggesq

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I think it looks great too. Everyone has their own opinion. It's the best looking sedan Acura has put out since 2008 IMHO of course.

MT clocked 7.2 seconds on the 2.4 and Motorweek clocked 8.7 seconds : http://www.motortrend.com/cars/acura...24-first-test/

http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...2015_acura_tlx

robster80

for u guys that own one are u satisfied with the headlight output. reading a few reviews it seems some guys are even scared to drive it at night saying it doesnt shine far and when turning onto a dark road its worse.

wlkeel

By the way, here's some data on 0 to 60 time for the 2.4 TLX (supposedly test data)

Car&Driver 6.8 sec
Motor Trend 7.2
Motor Trend 7.3
Edmunds 7.4
Motorweek 8.7

I'm going to call it somewhere between 7 and 8 seconds - probably won't be far off.
About the same as an early 70's Corvette

Edit: guess I'm just expanding on the ggesq post

CheeseyPoofs McNut

Right - so throw out the high and the low and you're in the the low 7's. I took mine on a 1,200 mile trip a few months ago - through the mountains of West Virginia - and not once did I wish the car had more power. Is a V6 faster and smoother - sure - but for the regular driver (i.e., someone who doesn't care about burnouts or days at the track) the 4 cyl has plenty of power. Plenty of power.

robster80

more power than say a tsx?

Midnight Mystery

The cool thing about 4 cylinders is that you can rev them all the way out, then shift, a V6 or turbo 4 in my case, tend to accelerate so quick, it's over before you know it!!!

I, personally, have the most fun with a 7.5-8.5 second car!!!

That being said, the I4 does have plenty of power, heck, a 2016 Camry SE 2.5 with 178hp is plenty fast, I got to 60 in 8.0-8.6, two runs!!!

A 2004 Accord 2.4 I drove had plenty of torque, it felt very strong, and this has 45 more hp and better gearing!!!

justnspace

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same engines.
the TLX will have an advantage with gearing from the DCT. also, the DCT shifts quicker.

so, maybe "more power" is the wrong way to think of it.
also, I dont know the difference in weight between the two...but if the TLX weighs less, which I suspect it does, it will do better than the TSX.

Midnight Mystery

If it's quicker, I'd say it's because of the gearing or updated engine design, i.e. direct injection...

Theoretically, the TSX should weigh less, it's really small I find, plus, the TLX has more tech, more airbags, and is A LOT bigger!!!

justnspace

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^that's exactly what I said...MYstery....
the DCT shifts quicker and has better gearing.

just looked at the curb weight, they both weigh about 3400lbs

Midnight Mystery

Oh ok, the TLX I sat in felt big, and the TSX felt tiny, like a Civic!!!

Either way, they're all quick!!!

LAMike240

I love my 4 cylinder. Compared to the 6, it feels sportier, lighter and more nimble. Everytime the dealer gives me a 6cul loaner, I hate it.

I came from an 03 TL Type S that I absolutely loved.

justnspace

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you cant judge a book by its cover.....
its whats on the inside that counts.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I had a 6 Cyl loaner last year and while it certainly is faster and smoother - it wasn't "blow you away" faster. It does handle differently as well. It was fun to drive for the day but when I got my car back I didn't miss the extra power of the 6.

I have a theory that people are either 4 cyl or 6/8 cyl people and that's just the way it is. If you like the instant and smooth power of a large engine then you will never be happy with a 4. Conversely - if you're a 4 cyl person you may enjoy driving a more powerful car but in the end it's not something you need or even want enough to go out and purchase.

Regardless - the question here was relating to the potential issues and in that case there's no question the 6 cyl has had more issues (transmission related) than the 4.

robster80

ive never owned a 4cyl. test drove a 12 or 13 model TSX and wanted more power. ill hafta test drive a 4 but ill likely not be satisfied and want the 6, just hope they get this transmission stuff sorted out

justnspace

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^oh yeah, then you wont be happy with 4cyl TLX.


but test drive test drive test drive test drive test drive

mrgold35

I have a 06 TSX 2,4L I-4 5AT and it has more than enough power for everyday commuting and city driving for me. The issue I had is when my TSX was my main travel vehicle with hwy speeds of 80-85 mph with altitude from 5200 ft in my home town to as high as +11,000 feet in Colorado. The 2.4L also required a little planning and luck to pass on two lane highways. Upgrading to a TL would have given me more power; but, not that more in cargo space. I solved my passing issue, high altitude driving lack of hp/tq problems, and gain a lot more cargo space with my turbo RDX; but, took a BIG hit in the mpgs department.

Personally, if I had any doubts the 2.4L might not be enough power, I would go for the 3.5L V-6. If you like to drive your car hard all year long, I would go for the sh-awd. I never heard a person say "my car has way too much HP" compared to saying it doesn't have enough.

justnspace

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the problem here in Houston is that ppl drive fast on the freeways. 70-80mph is the norm.
I daily drive a 4 cylinder and it does not have enough passing power for the flow of traffic.
to combat this, I just drive slower, that way ppl over take me and if i need to make a lane change, I'll do it after they pass.

with my TL however, it has enough go at 80mph to overtake MOST ppl

Saintor

Bear in mind that a 2016 Civic is now LARGER (at least inside) than a TLX.

I am happy with my 6-cyl. TLX. Although ity was bad at first, fuel economy improved and overall is 24mpg. I run it on regular.

No 4-cyl. can match the sound and driving experience of a 6, sorry. This is not to say that the 4-cyl. is not enough.

And finally, my ZF9 (2016 edition) is an excellent transmission, butter smooth and crisp.

LAMike240

I respectfully disagree. The I4 TLX is my daily driver and I love the performance. My 2nd car, or "weekend car" is an 02 Mercedes SL500, a 5.0 liter V-8. I love both of them! Definitely different experiences though.

Midnight Mystery

It all boils down to if you want to have to push the engine more or not...

If you do a lot of highway driving or passing, I'd suggest a V6...

But otherwise, it might be just for speed!!!

Personally, after driving only 4 cylinders, the turbo RDX's power is nice, but I find myself getting bored by just gently accelerating, I want to feel the power and hear the engine roar to speed up!!!

I love the extra power, but I find myself getting bored sometimes!!!

mcmdds1

I was leasing a 2011 BMW 335i prior to purchasing my 2.4 TLX. Having all that power is really not necessary for everyday driving. It was so fun to test drive the 335i but in hindsight I could have settled for the 328i. The TLX 4 cyl has no problem going up steep hills going 80 MPH. 206 is pretty decent power for a non turbo 4 banger. My 2001 GS 300 had around 220/225 HP and that was pretty quick for an 6 cylinder back in it's day.

LAMike240

I had 2013 528i, 4 cyl 240 hp. I had it for 5 weeks before I traded it in for the TLX I4.

Hands down, the TLX is a better car and 200% more fun to drive.

Nedmundo

It's not just the DCT and gearing; the TLX engine has 10-12 more lb.-ft. of torque. When I tested a TLX 2.4 I didn't push it, but in normal driving it felt about the same as my TSX for power.

robster80

were there any known issues with the 2.4? including transmission? i went by acura today and looked but didnt get to test drive. salesman were busy and i didnt have alot of time. gonna go back one day this week

quantum7

Do a search in Problems and Fixes.....one link to one thread...

https://acurazine.com/forums/5g-tlx-...sp-dct-947091/

robster80

thanks for the link! read thro it and that forum. really leaning toward just getting a 13 or 14 model TL. too many issues with the TLX. hopefully the 17 or 18 models will have everything sorted out