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2015 Acura TLX Technical Service Bulletins:

TSB 14-016 - 2015 TLX: TQI and New Model Service Information
Applies To: 2015 TLX - 4-Cylinder 2WD P-AWS 8-Speed DCT - Base, Technology
2015 TLX - 6-Cylinder 2WD P-AWS 9-Speed A/T - Base, Technology, Advance
2015 TLX - 6-Cylinder AWD SH-AWD Idle Stop 9-Speed A/T - Technology, Advance
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-016.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-016.PDF

TSB 14-017 - 2015 TLX: TQI of the Navigation System
Applies To: 2015 TLX - All with Navigation
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-017.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-017.PDF

TSB 14-025 - Timing Belt Chirps
Applies To: 2015-18 TLX - ALL with V6 - ALL
2019 TLX - 2WD with V6 - From VIN 19UUB2...KA000001 thru 19UUB2...KA007635
2019 TLX - AWD with V6 - From VIN 19UUB3...KA000001 thru 19UUB3...KA005453
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-025.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-025.PDF

TSB 14-036 - Noncompliance Recall: TLX Certification Label
Applies To: 2015 TLX - V6 AWD - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-036.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-036.PDF

TSB 14-037 - Client Satisfaction Improvement Campaign: Update for 2015 MDX and TLX ODMD (Vehicles with Navigation)
Applies To: 2015 TLX - All with Navigation - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-037.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-037.PDF

TSB 14-048 - New Warranty Instructions for TPMS-Related Repairs
Applies To: 2015 TLX - ALL - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-048.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-048.PDF

TSB 14-050 - Safety Recall: Transmission Does Not Engage Park
Applies To: 2015 TLX - ALL - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-050.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-050.PDF

TSB 14-054 - Product Update: Cross-Traffic Monitoring System – No Audible Alert
Applies To: 2015 TLX - Tech - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B14-054.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B14-054.PDF

TSB 15-006 - Clunk From Front Suspension When Driving at Low Speed Over Bumps or Turning
Applies To: 2015 TLX - L4 - From VIN 19UUB1F..FA000001 thru 19UUB1F..FA005784
2015 TLX - V6 without SH-AWD - From VIN 19UUB2F..FA000001 thru 19UUB2F..FA008008
2015 TLX - V6 with SH-AWD - From VIN 19UUB3F..FA000001 thru 19UUB3F..FA001079
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-006.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-006.PDF

TSB 15-017 - AcuraLink System Status Indicator Is Red and DTC B1403 Will Not Clear
Applies To: 2015 TLX - 2WD L4 with navigation - From VIN 19UUB1...FA000001 thru 19UUB1...FA007105
2015 TLX - 2WD V6 with navigation - From VIN 19UUB2...FA000001 thru 19UUB2...FA009308
2015 TLX - SH-AWD V6 with navigation - From VIN 19UUB3...FA000001 thru 19UUB3...FA001517
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-017.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-017.PDF

TSB 15-021 - Transmission Slips or Shifts Hard When Cold
This TSB is replaced by TSB 17-015 - 8-Speed Transmission (DCT) Has a Bump or Hard Shift When Coming to a Stop
Applies To: 2015 TLX - ALL L4 - From VIN 19UUB1...FA000001 thru 19UUB1...FA011573
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-021.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-021.PDF

TSB 15-024 - Product Update: PCM Software Does Not Meet OBDII Regulations
Applies To: 2015 TLX - L4 with 8-speed transmission - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-024.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-024.PDF

TSB 15-027 - LKAS Does Not Keep Vehicle in Detected Lane
Applies To: 2015 TLX - With Technology Package - ALL
2015 TLX - With Advance Package - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-027.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-027.PDF

TSB 15-034 - Product Update: Vehicle Shifts into Neutral and MIL Comes On with DTC P0657
Applies To: 2015 TLX - With 9-speed A/T - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-034.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-034.PDF

TSB 15-038 - Hesitation, Surge, High Idle, or Auto Idle Stop Does Not Work
Applies To: 2015 TLX - V6 with A/T - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-038.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-038.PDF

TSB 15-039 - Transmission End Cover Leaks (9-Speed A/T)
Applies To: 2015-18 TLX - ALL with 9-speed A/T - ALL
2019 TLX AWD - 9-speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB3F..KA000002 thru19UUB3F..KA002947
2019 TLX 2WD - 9-speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB2F..KA000001 thru 19UUB2F..KA003475
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-039.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-039.PDF

TSB 15-040 - Firm 2nd to 3rd Gear Upshifts Under Certain Driving Conditions
Applies To: 2015 TLX - V6 2WD - From VIN 19UUB2...FA000001 to 19UUB2...FA021489
2015 TLX - V6 SH-AWD - From VIN 19UUB3...FA000001 to 19UUB3...FA007728
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-040.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-040.PDF

TSB 15-041 - Multiple Indicator Lights Come On, Stuck in 4th Gear, and Temporary DTC P0714 is Set
Applies To: 2015 TLX - V6 with 9-speed A/T - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-041.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-041.PDF

TSB 15-042 - Fluttering Noise From Behind Dashboard
Applies To: 2015 TLX - L4 2WD - ALL - From VIN 19UUB1...FA000001 thru 19UUB1...FA022558
2015 TLX - V6 2WD - ALL - From VIN 19UUB2...FA000001 thru 19UUB2...FA022490
2015 TLX - V6 AWD - ALL - From VIN 19UUB3...FA000001 thru 19UUB3...FA008262
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-042.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-042.PDF

TSB 15-050 - Multiple Indicators are On with DTC U129D
Applies To: 2015 TLX - L4 2WD - From VIN 19UUB1...FA000001 thru 19UUB1...FA026785
2015 TLX - V6 2WD - From VIN 19UUB2...FA000001 thru 19UUB2...FA023882
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B15-050.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B15-050.PDF

TSB 16-008 - High Pressure Fuel Pump Chirps
Applies To: 2015-18 TLX - ALL with V6 - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-008.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-008.PDF

TSB 16-009 - Vibration Felt in Floor at Highway Speed
Applies To: 2015 TLX - AWD - From VIN 19UUB3F..FA000001 thru 19UUB3F..FA004363
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-009.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-009.PDF

TSB 16-011 - Product Update: Monroney Label (Hawaii)
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - ALL - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-011.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-011.PDF

TSB 16-012 - Transmission Function Improvements: Sensation of Surge While Braking, Slow Downshift Response at Low Engine Speeds, DTC P2638 and Other Listed Symptoms
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - V6 2WD with 9-speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB2...FA021489 and later
2015-16 TLX - V6 AWD with 9-speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB3...FA007728 and later
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-012.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-012.PDF

TSB 16-039 - Buttons Sticking on Audio-Navigation Unit (Day/Night, Settings, Navi or Audio)
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - ALL - ALL
2017 TLX - All except base - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-039.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-039.PDF

TSB 16-041 - REPLACE 12 VOLT BATTERY Message Will Not Clear After Battery Replacement
Applies To: 2015 TLX - 4 cyl only - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-041.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-041.PDF

TSB 16-057 - Vibration Felt In Front Seats and Floor at Highway Speeds
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - ALL V6 - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-057.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-057.PDF

TSB 16-058 - Rubbing, Popping or Clicking From Front Door When Opening
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - ALL - ALL
2017 TLX - L4 2WD - From VIN 19UUB1...HA000001 thru 19UUB1...HA001763
2017 TLX - V6 2WD - From VIN 19UUB2...HA000001 thru 19UUB2...HA000874
2017 TLX - V6 AWD - From VIN 19UUB3...HA000001 thru 19UUB3...HA000600
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-058.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-058.PDF

TSB 16-075 - Safety Recall: 2015 TLX V6 A/T Sensor Cluster Crimp Failure
Applies To: 2015 TLX - V6 with A/T - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B16-075.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B16-075.PDF

TSB 17-003 - AcuraLink Sending Excessive Notifications for Low Power
Applies To: 2015 TLX - Tech/Adv - ALL
2016 TLX - L4 2WD Tech - From VIN 19UUB1...GA000001 thru 19UUB1...GA009841
2016 TLX - V6 2WD Tech/Adv - From VIN 19UUB2...GA000001 thru 19UUB2...GA009123
2016 TLX - SH-AWD Tech/Adv - From VIN 19UUB3...GA000001 thru 19UUB3...GA002269
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-003.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-003.PDF

TSB 17-011 - Product Update: TLX 9-Speed Transmission Warmer
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - All with 9-speed A/T - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-011.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-011.PDF

TSB 17-012 - Product Update: TLX 9-Speed Transmission Warmer (Transmission Previously Replaced for Transmission Warmer Leaking)
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - All with 9-speed A/T - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-012.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-012.PDF

TSB 17-015 - 8-Speed Transmission (DCT) Has a Bump or Hard Shift When Coming to a Stop
Applies To: 2015–17 TLX - ALL L4 8-Speed Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-015.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-015.PDF

TSB 17-027 - Warranty Extension: TLX Transmission Chirps During 3-4 Shift, Poor Shift Quality, or Engine Overheats Because of Defective ATF Warmer
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX - All with 9-speed A/T - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-027.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-027.PDF

TSB 17-030 - Water Pump Seizes or the Drive Belt Is Shredded
Applies To: 2015-16 TLX 2.4L - ALL - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-030.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-030.PDF

TSB 17-034 - MIL Comes On with DTC P0430 (Front Bank Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold [Bank 2])
Applies To: 2015-17 TLX - V6 Only - ALL
2018 TLX - 2WD (V6 Only) - From VIN 19UUB2...JA000001 - 19UUB2...JA003458
2018 TLX - SH-AWD - From VIN 19UUB3...JA000001 - 19UUB3...JA001898
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B17-034.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B17-034.PDF

TSB 18-014 - Clicking from the Power Seat While Using the Height or Tilt Adjustment
Applies To: 2015-18 TLX - ALL with 10-way driver's power seat; ALL with 8-way passenger's power seat - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B18-014.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B18-014.PDF

TSB 19-003 - MIL Comes On with DTC P0716
Applies To: 2015 TLX - V6 2WD with 9-Speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB2...FA021489 and later
2015 TLX - V6 AWD with 9-Speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB3...FA007728 and later
2016-17 TLX - V6 with 9-Speed A/T - ALL
2018 TLX - V6 2WD with 9-Speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB2...JA000001 thru 19UUB2...JA011767
2018 TLX - V6 AWD with 9-Speed A/T - From VIN 19UUB3...JA000001 thru 19UUB3...JA005470
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-003.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-003.PDF

TSB 19-011 - Safety Recall: 2016-18 MDX and 2015-19 TLX V6 Fuel Pump
Applies To: 2015-19 TLX V6 - ALL - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-011.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-011.PDF

TSB 19-012 - Knocking or Clicking From Engine During Cold Startup
Applies To: 2015-18 TLX - L4 - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-012.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-012.PDF

TSB 19-017 - Buzzing or Whining When Adjusting Front Seat Forward and Backward
Applies To: 2015-19 TLX - ALL - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-017.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-017.PDF

TSB 19-033 - Warranty Extension: B-588P Obsidian Blue Pearl or Fathom Blue Pearl Paint
Applies To: 2015 TLX - All vehicles painted B-588P - Obsidian Blue Pearl or Fathom Blue Pearl - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-033.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-033.PDF

TSB 19-049 - MIL Comes On with DTC P0420
Applies To: 2015-17 TLX - ALL with V6 - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-049.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-049.PDF

TSB 19-059 - Service Manual Update: Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Control Diagram
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B19-059.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B19-059.PDF

TSB 20-015 - 9-Speed A/T Hard Upshift with Steady Acceleration
Applies To: 2015 TLX - 2WD V6 9-Speed A/T - Transmission serial number above Q5J...60408
2015 TLX - AWD V6 9-Speed A/T - Transmission serial number above Q5L...25932
2016-20 TLX - 2WD V6 9-Speed A/T - ALL
2016-20 TLX - AWD V6 9-Speed A/T - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B20-015.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B20-015.PDF

TSB 22-008 - Product Update: 2015–20 TLX PGM-FI Idle Stop Software Update
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX - V6 SH-AWD - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B22-008.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B22-008.PDF

TSB 22-009 - Warranty Extension: Engine Does Not Auto Restart After Entering Auto Idle Stop
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX - V6 (SH-AWD) - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B22-009.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B22-009.PDF

TSB 23-009 - Engine Does Not Crank
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX - V6 - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B23-009.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B23-009.PDF

TSB 24-002 - Safety Recall: 2015–20 TLX Connecting Rod Bearing
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX - V6 Only - ALL
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B24-002.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B24-002.PDF

TSB 24-007 - Safety Recall: 2015–20 TLX (Without SH-AWD) Fuel Pump Motor
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX (Without SH-AWD) - ALL - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B24-007.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B24-007.PDF

TSB 24-011 - Safety Recall: 2015–20 TLX SH-AWD Fuel Pump Motor
Applies To: 2015-20 TLX SH-AWD - ALL - Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
http://www.urvi.net/forumfiles/SB/B24-011.PDF
http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...nu/B24-011.PDF

Rocket_man

Thanks. While not the most fascinating read there were a few things i must have missed...

- There is a tire repair kit. It doesn't describe it but it is probably one of those cans of goop. I have a 12V pump I keep in my trunk and I'll probably get a patch kit.

- There is a tower brace between the front strut towers. I must have overlooked that in the pictures. That is a nice touch to brace the front end. Acura didn't have to do that, shows they were trying to improve handling.

- I wonder why there is a little door in the front passenger floor with the VIN in it? Must be a new requirement?

- The V6 battery is enclosed in a box to help keep it cool.

- There is a car wash mode that is also talked about in the owners manual. It inhibits the auto-park function so the car will roll through a car wash. I'm betting NO ONE is going to remember this. I wonder what it will sound like when someone puts their TLX through a car wash in Park.

jshaw

I wonder about the utility of a tower brace when the tower is already snug next to the firewall...


However, I think all new Acuras have that "frame access" cover up front (at least the RLX does, I think the MDX, too).

Colin

I'm sure the kits will be the same as the one in FWD MDXs and RLXs. It will be an integrated pump with 10 of group. Turn the dial one way to inject the sealant, flip it the opposite direction to engage the pump.

They talked about "car wash mode" in our RLX Hybrid training. It seems to be there because if you forget to engage park the car sets the break automatically. Obviously, if you select neutral to allow the car wash to pull the car through, you don't want the parking brake automatically engaging.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

The 9th gen accords have this as well - it makes for a handy little secret compartment.

KeithL

Is there a spare tire option? If not then pass for me, I refuse to buy a car that does not even have an option of a spare tire. pump and sealant do nothing for a blown or damaged tire in the mountains.

quantum7

TLX has a spare tire option

KeithL

Excellent. I suspect that fad of no spare will go away over time as people get stuck not realizing they don;t have one and complain. I never had to rely on it, but you can be sure the first car I have without one will have a blowout ;-)

neuronbob

Yesssss. Almost a deal maker by itself. It's a dumb idea to design a car without at least the option.

narnia

I haven't had a chance to read the manuals yet. Does anyone know if the air cabin filter is easier to change than in the '04?

Rocket_man

It doesn't say where it is, just that the Maintenance Minder will tell you when to change it. They probably want you to go to the dealer for one of those $130 cabin filter changes. I assume it is just like the Accord, in a slot behind the glove box. Takes about 10 minutes to change.

narnia

Well that would be very convenient. I drive 30K a year so I have to change the filter about 2x a year, and it's a pain to rip out the glove box. But I figure I've saved more than $2K over 10 years doing it myself vs. having the stealership do it. Thanks to Acurazine!

EE4Life

Cabin filter replacement is similar to the 4G. Just open the glove box and remove the shelf and a couple of lids to access the filter.

narnia

And I'll bet the dealers are still charging $100+ to change it!

Thanks for posting all these manuals.

CheeseyPoofs McNut

I wonder if it uses the same filter as the 9th gen Accord. I still have an extra one and am hoping to be able to use it.

wlkeel

I must not understand this "car wash mode".

So the guy in the car wash who drives the vehicle from the vacuum area to the beginning of the wash sequence is supposed to go through the procedure outlined in the TQI? It just ain't going to happen!! Those little rollers that are attached to the conveyor gismo are going to run into a wheel that isn't going to roll! Not sure what will happen next, maybe the little rollers will "roll" under the fixed wheel? Or maybe it will push the car with the rear tires skidding? Or maybe some device will shut down the conveyor? Doesn't seem like any of these things would be good.

Why would you design something like this into a car? Is it some federal regulation? Is it for safety/liability reasons?

Must be something to do with the push button transmission since it applys to only the six cylinder.

I might remember to turn off the rain sensing wipers, but this sounds like a bit much. Maybe I'm missing something.

wlkeel

^^^^

After rereading the procedure in the TQI, maybe that's what the car wash guy does anyway. But what if he doesn't and the car goes into Park? Guess I'm still confused.

Stew4HD

I think it'll go into N only when the car is running. The car wash guy would have to leave the engine running is all.. It's my best guess/workaround

EE4Life

JM2010 SH-AWD

^^ I'd hope most folks on this forum would not be putting their new TLXs through the swirl-o-matic in any event.

4WDrift

Any carwash around here you stay in the car. Why couldn't you just leave it in N running like before? It seems to me this is to keep a running engine from going to park whether unattended or not, because it says it will shift to P after 15 min in carwash mode, so you'd think the engine would have to be on according to the info below.

Someone do the above and tell me if it turns off or not. Reading through the manual / tech bulletins, they indicate the 9-AT cannot keep the park pawl from remaining disengaged (unlocked) w/o fluid pressure from a running engine, e.g. my postings earlier re towing, so that would mean turning it off engages Park automatically which negates the above if it applied to stopped engines.

BandwidthExceeded

Not to hate on anyone, it is their car they can do what they want. I do agree though. Please don't!

Rocketsfan

In carwash mode, the engine itself is actually off. You're in accessory mode. Once the car goes through the carwash, it seems like you have to actually put the car in Park before you can start it again (which may be another bit of confusion for some). I assumed that it's when the car is in this carwash mode that it will switch to "P" after 15 mins. I also assumed that if you're in the car, you could switch to "N" with the engine running and, once through the wash, drive off.
Another thing to note is that if you're in the car and in any gear other than P, if you unhook your seatbelt and open the door, the car will go into P.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I thought carwash mode was for unattended vehicles going through the wash.

4WDrift

So that's it, thanks for reminding me about the unlatched belts and getting out forcing Park, that's what unattended carwash mode is for. Otherwise just do N if you're still in it.

wlkeel

Thanks for the inputs. And yes, I'm talking about unattended vehicles going through the wash. If you're in the car, no problem.

In Southern California, we have many car washes where the vehicle goes through unattended. Even though many are hand wash, the vehicle rolls through the wash/rinse/sraywax/airdry process propelled by small rollers on a conveyor gizmo.

Rocketsfan

I just tested this somewhat ...
If you're in the car as you go through a car wash, leave the engine on, step on the brakes, and just press the "N"
If the car is going through the wash unattended, do as the card/manual says... step on the brakes, select "N" and press the start button once within 5 seconds. Your car's got 15 minutes to go through the wash before it switches to P and all kinds of "oh crap" ensues.

Davinci547Acura

Have fun explaining this procedure to 99% of wash attendants setting up car to go through long unattended tunnels! A TLX is just one more car to them on a busy afternoon and sometimes more than one attendant will jockey cars into the wash line.

I have personally seen situations in southern CA and Phoenix where 15 minutes before automatically shifting to P is not enough time to avert major disaster of car driveline locking up while inside the wash tunnel. What happens then?

I hand wash my cars with the exception of one Acura dealer. Why? Because I have had cars come out of some dealer wash bays with multiple scratches that were not there before washing. I know one Acura dealer where wash bay is subcontracted and they will use the same mitt to clean grime off tires and immediately wash down the car body. Imagine what this does to a black car!

Personally think there should be a software update to rethink this 15 minute automatic shift into P procedure because it is disaster waiting to happen and car wash management will take NO responsibility for damage to your TLX or damage to surrounding cars because it really isn't their fault.

KeithL

I agree, while I do not forsee a case where this would impact me, I do this this is stupid. What they should do is as long as you have no exited the car when you shifted into neutral they should leave it there, then as soon as you open the door or turn off the engine shift to Park.

fsttyms1

Not all car washes have brushes

ceb

Right. Some have nice strips or filthy cloth that will do the same thing. As an alternative, you can go to one of those places that only uses potent chemicals and pressure. Those won't even pretend to wash your car.

Quandry

No access to a driveway with hose and bucket, so my car washing routines are:
- Waterless car wash product with microfibre cloths
- occasionally self wash places with high pressure hose, potent chemicals, and foaming brush (cleaned with high pressure hose prior to use). Only use when there is a serious buildup of slush and grime, or wheels/tires need cleaning.
- touchless car wash, primarily for removal of salt/sand under the car

Most washes are finished off with quick detailer.

wlkeel

And some don't have either. The two closest to us have guys that hand-wash the exterior before it goes through a rinse process and optional sraywax process. Does a great job; however, you do have to trust that they change/clean the wash mitts often

Rocketsfan

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but what you're saying they should do is what they do. If you stay in the car and leave the engine running, you can shift to N and it'll stay there. If you leave the car, it will shift to P. If you use their "carwash mode", it will stay in N for 15 minutes before shifting back to N.
I say if anyone's worried about it, then don't use unattended washes since that's where the disaster can happen.

wlkeel

Agree that you can certainly avoid the problem, even though it would be a major inconvenience for many, including me.

And I'm still looking for some answers to my questions in post #17 - why would anyone design such a feature in the first place? Federal reg? Safety/liability issue? Other?

Just curious.

9SpeedTran

"I'm sure it made sense at the time."

Rocketsfan

I agree with you. The first time I read that a while back, I posted this could be an adventure in some car washes because I couldn't figure it out, either, but they obviously knew this could happen, so they included the instructions flyer to hang on the visor of the car when going through unattended car washes.
I wonder how it works on some of the new Lincolns, since they have the push-button gear selectors, too?

Quandry

I could not find anything on the web about the Lincoln. The two features of the TLX of automatically going into Park if the car was procedure is not followed or the 15 minute time limit work against it.

I have not used one of those car washes in years where you exit the car and it then travels thru unattended. Seems like 15 minutes should be more than sufficient.

wlkeel

I agree completely on the 15 minute adequacy, IF you were the one driving it to the entrance. However, in many of these car washes, you drive to a vacuuming area, turn the car off, tell the attendant what you want, leave key fob in car, and go have a coffee while they take it from there.

Thus one of the attendants drives it to the entrance, and if he doesn't know the "car wash sequence", trouble may ensue. Perhaps one could leave a notice on the visor as to how to do it. This may work well - and 15 minutes would then be more than sufficient. I'm sure something can be worked out.

I checked the new Chrysler 200 which has a 9 speed auto similar to the TLX, but has a rotary selector instead of the push button selector. It also has a feature which applies the "Park Brake" if you exit the car with the car in neutral. They probably have a "car wash" procedure also, but it seemed like too much work to verify this.

I've probably already spent too much time on this, but I think it's important, at least for a small percentage of TLX buyers.

Stew4HD

^ It's a valid question and concern. IMO, technology can go too far trying to be "smart". Maybe Acura will address this, especially if the unthinkable happens and a TLX messed up a car wash and/or the car id damaged because of it.

wlkeel

We ain't alone, boys and girls. I thought I was through with this darn subject, but just couldn't resist a little more Google searching.

Ferrari does the same thing, as does Tesla. Below is an interesting read on the Tesla Model S:

At the Car Wash... [Archive] - Tesla Motors Club - Enthusiasts & Owners Forum

Please note the post at 2012-12-08,09:53PM by William3 - kind of summarizes my feelings on this.

Mercedes also has it on at least some of their cars.