2015 Acura TLX - Success or Fail?
07-12-2014, 11:16 AM
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2015 Acura TLX - Success or Fail?
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Based on specs and prices that are released by Acura this week, what do you think of TLX? Is it going to be a success or Failure?
Please don't argue and respect other people's opinion...just write Success or Fail!
I believe it will be a success due to its competitive pricing and different segments like TLX, TLX-Tech, TLX-SH AWD and so on (as per CDN website, there are 7 trims)!
Thank you!
Based on specs and prices that are released by Acura this week, what do you think of TLX? Is it going to be a success or Failure?
Please don't argue and respect other people's opinion...just write Success or Fail!
I believe it will be a success due to its competitive pricing and different segments like TLX, TLX-Tech, TLX-SH AWD and so on (as per CDN website, there are 7 trims)!
Thank you!
07-12-2014, 11:28 AM
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Success. Will be the beginning of a new era of Acura sedans. I think they're moving in the right direction. Not quite there yet but definitely turning the corner with the TLX.
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07-12-2014, 11:29 AM
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It depends.
Success in the lower trims as an EPA Compact entry level luxury car as the value alternative compared to the Mercedes CLA, Audi A3, and Lexus IS.
A great update for existing TSX and Civic owners.
Not a success for Accord and TL owners who are not willing to sacrifice size for luxury.
Success in the lower trims as an EPA Compact entry level luxury car as the value alternative compared to the Mercedes CLA, Audi A3, and Lexus IS.
A great update for existing TSX and Civic owners.
Not a success for Accord and TL owners who are not willing to sacrifice size for luxury.
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07-12-2014, 11:32 AM
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Success: based upon pricing, features and a less polarizing appearance.
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07-12-2014, 11:42 AM
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07-12-2014, 01:00 PM
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It may sell decently depending on prices and discounts...I repeat, it may be a middle of the pack seller, the best scenario I can personally forecast.
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07-12-2014, 01:03 PM
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Success
07-12-2014, 02:41 PM
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Do we measure success by how people feel about the vehicle or how it sells?
I always viewed success based on numbers and therefore, it is too early to tell....IMHO.
I always viewed success based on numbers and therefore, it is too early to tell....IMHO.
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07-12-2014, 04:38 PM
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07-12-2014, 04:55 PM
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That is something that turned me off to a TL and went with a TSX instead. I use it alot doing small house projects picking up wood from home depot.
I think it will probably be a success, though I'm still overall disappointed because I was hoping for more aggressive styling (real time gt car looks geat
) and more power and revs from the I4.
07-12-2014, 05:28 PM
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I just priced a Lexus IS 250 to compare with the TLX - there is no contest that the TLX provides a great bang for your buck compared to the IS. With Lexus' option packages, the closest thing to a TLX 2.4 w/Tech is an IS 250 AWD with one of their highest option packages, costing around $46k. You're missing quite a few features with an IS 250 RWD costing around $38.6k.
That being said, I hope that people realize that the initial sticker price isn't necessarily the definition of "luxury", although I think that may be one of Acura's weak points. Hopefully the TLX will gain traction as a great value with good styling and bring more attention in the press come August.
That being said, I hope that people realize that the initial sticker price isn't necessarily the definition of "luxury", although I think that may be one of Acura's weak points. Hopefully the TLX will gain traction as a great value with good styling and bring more attention in the press come August.
07-12-2014, 05:35 PM
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I just priced a Lexus IS 250 to compare with the TLX - there is no contest that the TLX provides a great bang for your buck compared to the IS. With Lexus' option packages, the closest thing to a TLX 2.4 w/Tech is an IS 250 AWD with one of their highest option packages, costing around $46k. You're missing quite a few features with an IS 250 RWD costing around $38.6k.
That being said, I hope that people realize that the initial sticker price isn't necessarily the definition of "luxury", although I think that may be one of Acura's weak points. Hopefully the TLX will gain traction as a great value with good styling and bring more attention in the press come August.
That being said, I hope that people realize that the initial sticker price isn't necessarily the definition of "luxury", although I think that may be one of Acura's weak points. Hopefully the TLX will gain traction as a great value with good styling and bring more attention in the press come August.
Its also roomier than its fellow "Compact" near luxury sedan competitors.
The question will be how consumers respond to the TLX's value advantage versus the brand image that the others have.
Either way I think that the TLX will easily outsell the ILX and RLX.
07-12-2014, 06:07 PM
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Success - Good looks, good features, good price/value, Honda reliability/dependability
07-12-2014, 07:21 PM
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Wow! I am glad to see many of us here believe TLX will be a success due to price
We will wait and see...it won't take long before we know if it's a hit or miss.
We will wait and see...it won't take long before we know if it's a hit or miss.
07-12-2014, 07:54 PM
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This car will sell like hotcakes. It may even make 3G TL sales levels initially. It was priced right, out of the gate, and the lease specials will cause the average transaction price for this car to be high for months on end. Further, it is not ugly like the 4G TL. I may be one of those sales/leases given my precious sport hybrid RLX is vaporware for now.
Now, Acura has to get out the word that it is an excellent car and a great deal financially. Go go gadget marketers!
Now, Acura has to get out the word that it is an excellent car and a great deal financially. Go go gadget marketers!
07-12-2014, 08:01 PM
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This car will sell like hotcakes. It may even make 3G TL sales levels initially. It was priced right, out of the gate, and the lease specials will cause the average transaction price for this car to be high for months on end. Further, it is not ugly like the 4G TL. I may be one of those sales/leases given my precious sport hybrid RLX is vaporware for now.
Now, Acura has to get out the word that it is an excellent car and a great deal financially. Go go gadget marketers!
Now, Acura has to get out the word that it is an excellent car and a great deal financially. Go go gadget marketers!
07-12-2014, 08:18 PM
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Fail. After seeing several pics and vid from all views, that rear quarter window shape doesn't flow with rest of the the car. The new Accord and even the RLX looks better IMO in an understated kind of way.
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07-12-2014, 08:20 PM
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Probable success but we won't need to wait very long to find out. We'll have a much better idea about the success or failure of the TLX before December. The TLX will sell better than the 4g, but I'm not so sure about eclipsing 3G sales figures. To be a real success, the TLX will need to sell in figures of (TL + TSX) to add to the bottom line for Acura and I'm not sure that will happen with the additional competition that's around now. It seemed easier in 2004 than in 2014.
07-13-2014, 12:29 AM
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07-13-2014, 12:31 AM
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Depends on your definition of a failure. To most anyone but an Acura 4G TL owner, the 4G was a dismal failure. But if you asked if the 4G was a failure or no in the 4G forum - you'd probably find a 99% positive response on what a fabulous looking car it is and the dreadful sales are a result of typhoons, radiation leaks and an economic downturn that only struck unpopular cars and didn't impact BMW for some reason.
While there are some here like me who are still hanging on to the Acura bang for the buck hope but are not fanboys, I think you'll find many in this section are determined to believe that the TLX is fantastic.
That being said - I wouldn't call it a failure yet, but it doesn't leave me wanting a first year model and chances are it won't improve enough in the second year either.
While there are some here like me who are still hanging on to the Acura bang for the buck hope but are not fanboys, I think you'll find many in this section are determined to believe that the TLX is fantastic.
That being said - I wouldn't call it a failure yet, but it doesn't leave me wanting a first year model and chances are it won't improve enough in the second year either.
07-13-2014, 04:12 AM
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Success.
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07-13-2014, 05:18 AM
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Success....was hoping for a better exterior with more excitement and more power (having hard time believing that 204 hp and even 290 will get it done), but with the pricing this car will sell.
07-13-2014, 07:02 AM
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Acura said it would go on sale in spring of 13, then December, then in April of 14, then in June, and it hasn't shown up. So when they say it will be available in August, I have no basis on which to believe that. If that doesn't define vaporware, I don't know what does. 
Besides, it makes much more sense that they are concentrating on their volume sedan, the TLX, for now. It's definitely good business sense from my standpoint. I definitely want it to be successful, because its success pays for enhancements to the other sedans and, maybe, eventually, an enthusiast version of the TLX.
Besides, it makes much more sense that they are concentrating on their volume sedan, the TLX, for now. It's definitely good business sense from my standpoint. I definitely want it to be successful, because its success pays for enhancements to the other sedans and, maybe, eventually, an enthusiast version of the TLX.
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07-13-2014, 07:47 AM
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Depends on your definition of a failure. To most anyone but an Acura 4G TL owner, the 4G was a dismal failure. But if you asked if the 4G was a failure or no in the 4G forum - you'd probably find a 99% positive response on what a fabulous looking car it is and the dreadful sales are a result of typhoons, radiation leaks and an economic downturn that only struck unpopular cars and didn't impact BMW for some reason.
While there are some here like me who are still hanging on to the Acura bang for the buck hope but are not fanboys, I think you'll find many in this section are determined to believe that the TLX is fantastic.
That being said - I wouldn't call it a failure yet, but it doesn't leave me wanting a first year model and chances are it won't improve enough in the second year either.
While there are some here like me who are still hanging on to the Acura bang for the buck hope but are not fanboys, I think you'll find many in this section are determined to believe that the TLX is fantastic.
That being said - I wouldn't call it a failure yet, but it doesn't leave me wanting a first year model and chances are it won't improve enough in the second year either.
the reason many believes TLX will be a success due to its pricing and less polarizing look. I might not be the best looking car out there but it's not the worst either.
07-13-2014, 08:16 AM
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Moderate success. It's not bad looking. Ironically this is what the 4G TL SHOULD have looked like (as it's a slight evolution from the 3G). It's priced well. It will outsell its Japanese rival equivalent (Infiniti and Lexus). It will not challenge BMW or Mercedes for sales. Those two have really stepped up their game in the looks department as well as trims offered.
All in all, it will be successful especially when compared to the disastrous 4G. Now if they can just apply this to the RLX.
All in all, it will be successful especially when compared to the disastrous 4G. Now if they can just apply this to the RLX.
07-13-2014, 05:00 PM
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Success, especially if it has traditional Honda/Acura agility and the "vault like" cabin that's been promoted. Road noise has long plagued Honda cars relative to the competition, because it makes them seem less luxurious. Creating that perception of luxury is huge.
Otherwise, it looks like the usual "bang for the buck" formula Acura has used forever, with more space and features for the price relative to the competition, like the 320i and IS250 relative to the I4 TLX.
Otherwise, it looks like the usual "bang for the buck" formula Acura has used forever, with more space and features for the price relative to the competition, like the 320i and IS250 relative to the I4 TLX.
07-13-2014, 08:58 PM
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Success.
Though the economy wasn't all that great either at the time, natural disasters did hurt Acura for awhile. Another good point is the 4G's design. It did turn off a LOT of people with its styling, but the MMC 4G has grown on me a lot.
Depends on your definition of a failure. To most anyone but an Acura 4G TL owner, the 4G was a dismal failure. But if you asked if the 4G was a failure or no in the 4G forum - you'd probably find a 99% positive response on what a fabulous looking car it is and the dreadful sales are a result of typhoons, radiation leaks and an economic downturn that only struck unpopular cars and didn't impact BMW for some reason.
While there are some here like me who are still hanging on to the Acura bang for the buck hope but are not fanboys, I think you'll find many in this section are determined to believe that the TLX is fantastic.
That being said - I wouldn't call it a failure yet, but it doesn't leave me wanting a first year model and chances are it won't improve enough in the second year either.
While there are some here like me who are still hanging on to the Acura bang for the buck hope but are not fanboys, I think you'll find many in this section are determined to believe that the TLX is fantastic.
That being said - I wouldn't call it a failure yet, but it doesn't leave me wanting a first year model and chances are it won't improve enough in the second year either.
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07-14-2014, 10:02 AM
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Acura said it would go on sale in spring of 13, then December, then in April of 14, then in June, and it hasn't shown up. So when they say it will be available in August, I have no basis on which to believe that. If that doesn't define vaporware, I don't know what does.
Besides, it makes much more sense that they are concentrating on their volume sedan, the TLX, for now. It's definitely good business sense from my standpoint. I definitely want it to be successful, because its success pays for enhancements to the other sedans and, maybe, eventually, an enthusiast version of the TLX.
Besides, it makes much more sense that they are concentrating on their volume sedan, the TLX, for now. It's definitely good business sense from my standpoint. I definitely want it to be successful, because its success pays for enhancements to the other sedans and, maybe, eventually, an enthusiast version of the TLX.
