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Another thing I noticed is some people that get addicted to porn (thus "NoFap" would be a good choice) have some seriously fcked up preferences in porn. I've read about other people going cold turkey and if they go back to crankin' to porn, their preferences go back to more vanilla stuff.
Trust me brah, you don't want to go so far down the rabbit hole you can't get off unless she has a bowel movement... (I doubt anyone is born with a scat fetish..)
i never understood people that watch some seriously fucked up porn.
i still enjoy watching the P go in the V and sometimes A.
I think it's just like any other addiction. Over time the same vanilla stuff gets stale so you look for "harder" stuff.
I'd say if you're really into porn, you'll eventually be looking into multiple P's going into the V and A simultaneously Then gangbangs, then.... well you know.
An earnest discussion regarding peoples' ability to reject porn in today's day and age?
Originally Posted by cu2wagon
Well, sheeeeiiiiiit. I can say the same thing about my time in college. So can my (then) roommates. We were always locked in the room, music turned up, eyes glazed over, cranking it* out time and time again while the rest of the campus, the "normals" if you will, were partying and having a good time.
It's called Engineering.
EE here. Guess I was smart enough to have spare time.
Originally Posted by cu2wagon
I could replace "jerkin it" with "studying" in that CS Lewis quote to the same result.
Yeah... I'm not seeing it. Either you missed the point, or "A harem of imaginary numbers..." turns you on.
Originally Posted by Majofo
Maybe I don't understand.. I know plenty of dudes who flog it that seem to be well-adjusted. In some cases, it's probably the only thing that keeps them level.
You don't understand. Maybe you can't read. I prefaced my statement with, "If there is anyone reading this who wants to give up porn or even has someone close to them urging them to do so but is struggling..." How does your statement apply?
Originally Posted by Majofo
Bruh.. I read a study several years ago linking fapping to divorce. It was teh loss of intimacy plus the husband's somewhat skewed / perverted views on intimacy caused by habitual porn watching that killed the chemistry.
<p>chicks don't like to do it as often as guys usually...in a healthy long term relationship where there is good intimacy and lines of communication, I think it can be a good thing. </p><p>I don't think it's the porn itself that's bad...it's conditioning yourself to get turned on by things that are not your wife repeatedly that make you lose interest in the contact that made you form that bond with her to begin with. </p>
So you're saying you still beat your meat but don't watch porn? What is more damaging here in your opinion?
Originally Posted by oo7spy
So you agree with what I have discovered. Cool.
I didn't say I agree, I have no idea. But it's apparently a growing field in psychology so there must be merit. It seems like in many cases it starts with the decline in sex in the relationship, which leads to porn / fapping. Marriage is work, and it sounds like you're definitely putting in the right effort.
<p>I think key is not to replace one with the other...it's an outlet, like any other and as long as you keep that in check and continue to nurture that bond you have with your wife, there's no real harm. </p>
So you're saying you still beat your meat but don't watch porn? What is more damaging here in your opinion?
Just like pretty much everything in a relationship, the subject is usually more complex than straightforward. It also certainly doesn't apply to every relationship. I think there are two major obstacles that porn can create in a relationship, and their occurrence and impact are completely independent of one another. The answer to your question for me and my relationship could have no bearing on the answer to your question for another.
As a lot of guys seem to realize here, if watching porn or fapping or both is reducing either partner's desire to be intimate with their SO, that is an issue. This can occur due to different causes, but the effect is generally the same. It could be that porn has desensitized someone to the point they can't get aroused, or it could be that they can't get aroused because of the frequency or timing of their fapping. For the latter, you don't have to have porn to cause an issue, and I'm sure you can imagine numerous other paths that lead to the same result.
The other thing that a lot of guys don't seem to understand is how the act of getting aroused by other women can affect their SO. 3/4 women don't feel comfortable with their SO looking at other women to the point of arousal. This could be in real life checking out the girl at the ATM, or it could be in the form of pornography. Women are generally very insecure about their own image and about their relationships. When the person they look to the most to validate themselves and their relationship is finding arousal elsewhere, it furthers that insecurity. In a significant percentage of women, the feelings are so damaging, they consider getting off to porn as a form of cheating. Now, of course, YMMV. There are some women who are confident and secure enough to be okay with that sort of thing. However, the majority aren't, and the real problem in a lot those relationships is a bit of a catch 22. The insecurity that causes those negative feelings also hinders their confidence to say anything about it. She may be saying she's okay with it and even asking to watch it with you, but she could very well be ignoring her feelings in a desperate attempt to be closer. I don't know how much of that could be the guy's fault, but it isn't a sustainable path to a happy relationship.
Insecurity issues.. shieettt.
That and trust issues.. not worth fighting.
As long as you make your lady feel sexy, loved, and adored. She shouldn't feel insecure about you checking out the goods. I think you can still respect others and check out dat ass (just don't let your eyes lead your head, which will lead your body and then your boner -Maker)!
Originally Posted by rockstar143
<p>I think key is not to replace one with the other...it's an outlet, like any other and as long as you keep that in check and continue to nurture that bond you have with your wife, there's no real harm. </p>
I keep my relationship advice simple. It's all about respect. Don't do shit that would make your lady lose respect for you. If catching you with your pants at your ankles, furiously fapping to a girl getting shafted by a horse.. don't do it.
Just like pretty much everything in a relationship, the subject is usually more complex than straightforward. It also certainly doesn't apply to every relationship. I think there are two major obstacles that porn can create in a relationship, and their occurrence and impact are completely independent of one another. The answer to your question for me and my relationship could have no bearing on the answer to your question for another. As a lot of guys seem to realize here, if watching porn or fapping or both is reducing either partner's desire to be intimate with their SO, that is an issue. This can occur due to different causes, but the effect is generally the same. It could be that porn has desensitized someone to the point they can't get aroused, or it could be that they can't get aroused because of the frequency or timing of their fapping. For the latter, you don't have to have porn to cause an issue, and I'm sure you can imagine numerous other paths that lead to the same result. The other thing that a lot of guys don't seem to understand is how the act of getting aroused by other women can affect their SO. 3/4 women don't feel comfortable with their SO looking at other women to the point of arousal. This could be in real life checking out the girl at the ATM, or it could be in the form of pornography. Women are generally very insecure about their own image and about their relationships. When the person they look to the most to validate themselves and their relationship is finding arousal elsewhere, it furthers that insecurity. In a significant percentage of women, the feelings are so damaging, they consider getting off to porn as a form of cheating. Now, of course, YMMV. There are some women who are confident and secure enough to be okay with that sort of thing. However, the majority aren't, and the real problem in a lot those relationships is a bit of a catch 22. The insecurity that causes those negative feelings also hinders their confidence to say anything about it. She may be saying she's okay with it and even asking to watch it with you, but she could very well be ignoring her feelings in a desperate attempt to be closer. I don't know how much of that could be the guy's fault, but it isn't a sustainable path to a happy relationship.
</p><p> </p><p>And this is why I'm single. </p>
<p></p><p>Cant believe you disrespected her like that! </p>
I couldn't help myself, I saw it in a porno..
the music started playing in my head..
before I could even process what I was doing.. it was over.
I felt guilty after, but Jill wanted it just as much as I did.. maybe more.
Sorry playa, you know how it is.
I couldn't help myself, I saw it in a porno.. the music started playing in my head.. before I could even process what I was doing.. it was over. I felt guilty after, but Jill wanted it just as much as I did.. maybe more. Sorry playa, you know how it is.
</p><p>Bruh, that aint an excuse. </p><p><img src="https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazine.com-vbulletin/403x521/80-da316d1cd698558e1542aa170a08d15a_341767a1e4cd9dcf1 fbf1397e78d796312cea674.jpg" title="" /><br /><br /> </p><p><img src="https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazine.com-vbulletin/300x250/80-nomore300x250_static_lisal_5d683ac35680d6dca1076c5 15034c98a2ce4adf2.jpg" title="" /><br /><br /> </p>
weird right?
I think it would have been better received if Original Post had details on why he was posting the poll
but doesnt matter now that we know the intentions of the post
Wait. What?!?
Originally Posted by oo7spy
I'm not talking about in the past. I am also not talking about unintended or incidental exposure. Right now, can you honestly say that you do not ever look at porn?
(Ladies are welcome to vote too.)
This was never about masturbation. I didn't even mention it in the OP. Maybe the mention of NoFap led some people astray, but that site is almost entirely devoted to breaking the habitual cycle of PMO (porn-masturbation-orgasm) focusing on the initiator, porn.
I haven't seen anyone in here claim masturbation was bad. It has the potential to harm intimacy, but not in moderation.
What about the OP needs clarification? What was the intention of the thread that you now know?
Well I'd imagine if you habitually watch porn it might desensitize you to women and sex... Key word is might. I guess it's like considering whether or not violent movies and video games make you a violent person.
09-18-2015, 12:31 PM
(I doubt anyone is born with a scat fetish..)
Then gangbangs, then.... well you know.
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