It is becoming harder and harder to find a girl with NO TATTOOS.
12-30-2014, 03:29 PM
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12-30-2014, 03:54 PM
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I wasn't attempting to create a stir at all. I really just wanted to gauge the tragic depth of your prejudice. You've answered my question.
The irony is that no one in America would hire you with that attitude regardless of your ability. If you were caught doing that here you'd be fired immediately, and probably sued. Rightfully so. I've no idea who in Canada would be willing to put up with your attitude.
The irony is that no one in America would hire you with that attitude regardless of your ability. If you were caught doing that here you'd be fired immediately, and probably sued. Rightfully so. I've no idea who in Canada would be willing to put up with your attitude.
With having long hairs, ridiculous piercings, ugly hair coloration or even worse, tatoos, comes a state of mind that I find incompatible with the expected level of professionalism, specially in a senior management position. This is not for nothing that the organisms above have rules and policies to hide this kind of nonsense.
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12-30-2014, 03:59 PM
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12-30-2014, 04:10 PM
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There is nothing wrong asking - scratch this - DEMANDING high standards in your team.
With having long hairs, ridiculous piercings, ugly hair coloration or even worse, tatoos, comes a state of mind that I find incompatible with the expected level of professionalism, specially in a senior management position. This is not for nothing that the organisms above have rules and policies to hide this kind of nonsense.
With having long hairs, ridiculous piercings, ugly hair coloration or even worse, tatoos, comes a state of mind that I find incompatible with the expected level of professionalism, specially in a senior management position. This is not for nothing that the organisms above have rules and policies to hide this kind of nonsense.
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12-30-2014, 04:19 PM
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No, no, no. You don't get the luxury of hiding your prejudice behind implementing "corporate grooming" standards. By your own definition, a man who is perfectly groomed and well educated is wholly unsuitable for any leadership position because of the tattoo on his calf that no one will ever see. That's all you. Don't try to hide behind corporate policy for your prejudice.
BTW, regarding "the tattoo on his calf" now is a good time to remind you what I wrote in reply #248.
12-30-2014, 04:27 PM
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It doesn't change a thing. I am not in the "market". But I hired 100s of person. As soon as I see a tatoo on them, their chance goes to the toilet. My experience with those persons is that they are more emotional, to the point of hurting their best judgement and making stupid stuff.
One example is mutilating themselves on a permanent basis.
One example is mutilating themselves on a permanent basis.
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12-30-2014, 05:40 PM
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There is nothing wrong asking - scratch this - DEMANDING high standards in your team.
With having long hairs, ridiculous piercings, ugly hair coloration or even worse, tatoos, comes a state of mind that I find incompatible with the expected level of professionalism, specially in a senior management position. This is not for nothing that the organisms above have rules and policies to hide this kind of nonsense.
With having long hairs, ridiculous piercings, ugly hair coloration or even worse, tatoos, comes a state of mind that I find incompatible with the expected level of professionalism, specially in a senior management position. This is not for nothing that the organisms above have rules and policies to hide this kind of nonsense.
Because if they're not, you have ZERO argument other than YOUR personal preferences.
12-30-2014, 06:08 PM
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Honestly, I think chicks with a lot of tattoos are fucking sexy. So sue me. 
12-30-2014, 06:22 PM
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The very same reason why HR will prefer candidates with a baccalaureate or better for senior management positions (at least in large corps). Why? Because they have a way of thinking that makes them more of a fit for these positions. Similarly, I can't see a fit with people mutilating themselves seriously PERMANENTLY just to look cool. Everything is not always equal as SOME people get older, more mature and regret these errors in their youth. But certainly not a 54yo QC manager who wished me an *ss cancer.
That's about buying a level of comfort, and avoiding the potential hassles of having to deal with complicated people. Yeah it is personal, as it was personal when the OP started this thread.
It has been explained is previous posts. We are turning in circles now.
Did we hear a Chihuahua barking or something?
12-30-2014, 06:40 PM
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Of course, it is about personal preferences.
The very same reason why HR will prefer candidates with a baccalaureate or better for senior management positions (at least in large corps). Why? Because they have a way of thinking that makes them more of a fit for these positions. Similarly, I can't see a fit with people mutilating themselves seriously PERMANENTLY just to look cool. Everything is not always equal as SOME people get older, more mature and regret these errors in their youth. But certainly not a 54yo QC manager who wished me an *ss cancer.
The very same reason why HR will prefer candidates with a baccalaureate or better for senior management positions (at least in large corps). Why? Because they have a way of thinking that makes them more of a fit for these positions. Similarly, I can't see a fit with people mutilating themselves seriously PERMANENTLY just to look cool. Everything is not always equal as SOME people get older, more mature and regret these errors in their youth. But certainly not a 54yo QC manager who wished me an *ss cancer.
Coward.
Let us all know when you have something other than prejudice and anecdote to back up your discriminatory practices.
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12-30-2014, 07:15 PM
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I mean it couldn't have been that different from his native language...Le Chihuahua. So, we can only come to the conclusion that he really is a retard.
12-30-2014, 07:18 PM
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12-30-2014, 07:27 PM
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It sounds like you're excluding potentially good employees through being close-minded.
Are these 'evil tattooed' people covered in SS runes or something?
Are these 'evil tattooed' people covered in SS runes or something?
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12-30-2014, 07:34 PM
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It is simply astounding that someone can spell the word "baccalaureate" but is incapable of spelling the word "tattoo". Top that with the idea that they are claiming to be of a higher intelligence than others, and I believe we have crossed into The Twilight Zone.
Saintor is nothing but a pathetic troll, and it is quite obvious. There is no reason to even respond. Even the entertainment value has depreciated.
Saintor is nothing but a pathetic troll, and it is quite obvious. There is no reason to even respond. Even the entertainment value has depreciated.
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12-30-2014, 08:20 PM
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12-30-2014, 08:30 PM
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Anyway I didn't understand what he was saying but I guess that I shouldn't have asked, lol.
12-30-2014, 09:58 PM
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I don't have any tattoo either. I might get one in the future, it will have to actually mean something special to me. All of my friends have tats, its a normal thing.
12-30-2014, 10:13 PM
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Are there some public-relations jobs where that would not be appropriate? Sure. There are a small handful of jobs at my company that have grooming and dress standards and pink hair and multiple piercings would disqualify you. But they would never disqualify over a tattoo that could be hidden. They certainly would not assume the person was brain damaged or of poor character for having one. There is a huge difference between a company enforcing an appearance standard for a certain job, and outright dismissing anyone with a tattoo and rationalizing it by assuming tattooed people are brain damaged idiots that can't do anything productive.
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12-30-2014, 10:14 PM
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12-31-2014, 12:20 AM
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12-31-2014, 12:26 AM
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12-31-2014, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MySoCalLife
I find the butterfly on their lower back to be really sexy.
12-31-2014, 02:33 AM
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I don't know.
12-31-2014, 02:46 AM
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I don't believe any of Saintor's recent posts have been grammatically sound.
Saintor must have tattoos he doesn't know about.
Saintor must have tattoos he doesn't know about.
12-31-2014, 02:55 AM
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12-31-2014, 02:59 AM
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You frankly have no idea who does and does not have tattoos.
Do you call the literal hundreds of vets with tattoos idiots? Or the firefighters that save lives or men and women that lay theirs down for you to be able to type away on that keyboard like your viewpoints actually matter? If you stopped posting here tomorrow the only people that would notice are the ones enjoying your display of ignorance and bigotry.
Go sit on a dating website while your wife sexts the tattooed dude sticking it to her.
Do you call the literal hundreds of vets with tattoos idiots? Or the firefighters that save lives or men and women that lay theirs down for you to be able to type away on that keyboard like your viewpoints actually matter? If you stopped posting here tomorrow the only people that would notice are the ones enjoying your display of ignorance and bigotry.
Go sit on a dating website while your wife sexts the tattooed dude sticking it to her.
12-31-2014, 05:38 AM
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I still wish you ass cancer BTW.
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12-31-2014, 07:06 AM
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If that person was the best candidate, absolutely. In engineering, you could paint your skin green but if you are a rock-star engineer you'll have a job. I was visiting a large engineering and manufacturing company a few years back and the company chief engineer had his picture on the wall. He had a bright red mow-hawk. I had two reactions. First was that he was probably the smartest guy in the company. Second was good for that company to pick intelligence and capability over image.
Are there some public-relations jobs where that would not be appropriate? Sure. There are a small handful of jobs at my company that have grooming and dress standards and pink hair and multiple piercings would disqualify you. But they would never disqualify over a tattoo that could be hidden. They certainly would not assume the person was brain damaged or of poor character for having one. There is a huge difference between a company enforcing an appearance standard for a certain job, and outright dismissing anyone with a tattoo and rationalizing it by assuming tattooed people are brain damaged idiots that can't do anything productive.
ttribe covered what I'd say pretty well, other than I'll add your posts are contradictory. You'd date a girl with a small tattoo but wouldn't hire one because she's brain damaged. So I guess your standards for a personal relationship aren't as high as your professional standards.
Are there some public-relations jobs where that would not be appropriate? Sure. There are a small handful of jobs at my company that have grooming and dress standards and pink hair and multiple piercings would disqualify you. But they would never disqualify over a tattoo that could be hidden. They certainly would not assume the person was brain damaged or of poor character for having one. There is a huge difference between a company enforcing an appearance standard for a certain job, and outright dismissing anyone with a tattoo and rationalizing it by assuming tattooed people are brain damaged idiots that can't do anything productive.
ttribe covered what I'd say pretty well, other than I'll add your posts are contradictory. You'd date a girl with a small tattoo but wouldn't hire one because she's brain damaged. So I guess your standards for a personal relationship aren't as high as your professional standards.
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12-31-2014, 09:22 AM
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If that person was the best candidate, absolutely. In engineering, you could paint your skin green but if you are a rock-star engineer you'll have a job. I was visiting a large engineering and manufacturing company a few years back and the company chief engineer had his picture on the wall. He had a bright red mow-hawk. I had two reactions. First was that he was probably the smartest guy in the company. Second was good for that company to pick intelligence and capability over image.
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12-31-2014, 09:57 AM
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I've found that most people with tattoos have very interesting stories about why they got them. I've had my boss tell a lab supervisor, "we rent them for their brains, not what's on their feet." (I was wearing flip-flops in the lab because I didn't know I was going to be there.) Also, one of our best Design Engineers wears sweatpants every single day and sometimes his trench coat. I don't think I have ever seen his hair combed. He has 20+ patents laying around his cube.
Although in truth I could never bring myself to wear sweatpants to work.
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12-31-2014, 11:35 AM
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ttribe covered what I'd say pretty well, other than I'll add your posts are contradictory. You'd date a girl with a small tattoo but wouldn't hire one because she's brain damaged. So I guess your standards for a personal relationship aren't as high as your professional standards.
I love my girl, yet I don't want to work with her, specially if she would be tatooed. What's hard to understand?
12-31-2014, 11:38 AM
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*As I said earlier*, tatooed persons can be good achievers and I don't even question their intelligence. It is the lack of judgement that I question. They are typically a PITA to deal with.
That's another way to be an idiot and this guy above clearly qualifies.
That's another way to be an idiot and this guy above clearly qualifies.
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12-31-2014, 11:42 AM
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If that person was the best candidate, absolutely. In engineering, you could paint your skin green but if you are a rock-star engineer you'll have a job. I was visiting a large engineering and manufacturing company a few years back and the company chief engineer had his picture on the wall. He had a bright red mow-hawk. I had two reactions. First was that he was probably the smartest guy in the company. Second was good for that company to pick intelligence and capability over image.
Having wished me *ss cancer twice, you are a perfect example how stupid they can be.
12-31-2014, 11:56 AM
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12-31-2014, 11:59 AM
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What's hard to understand is when it comes to your girl, you choose to see past the tattoo and (apparently) value her for who she is, yet at work you discriminate against tattooed people without even considering who they are or what value they bring.
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