Sony: PS3 News and Discussion Thread
#321
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Originally Posted by slayer202
that said, bluray discs holding the amount of information they do, and a cpu advantage means games a lot better. and silver, are you crazy? they have the best exclusive games. metal gear solid 4 is reason enough for any sane person to buy ps3 not to mention devil may cry. is turismo only on ps too? i'm sure there are a few more. what does xbox have, halo.
any news on when you can preorder? and is the release date still set for november?
any news on when you can preorder? and is the release date still set for november?
Halo3 will probably outsell both MGS and DMC combined in the US
#322
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Originally Posted by srika
ok... maybe Sony IS in a position to lose that much on PS3....
http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...-SONY-GAME.XML
http://today.reuters.com/investing/f...-SONY-GAME.XML
#327
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http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele...f/060509ae.pdf
So hdmi, wireless networking, memory cars are the rest of the difference.
The pdf is hosted on sony's site, but um, those are some odd things to leave out. Mabee it's old or something.
Also the controller loses the rumbling ness when it gained it's motion detectionness.
http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/09-05-2006-2756.html
thats what they said anyway, i'm pretty shure it's because that lawsuit.
So hdmi, wireless networking, memory cars are the rest of the difference.
The pdf is hosted on sony's site, but um, those are some odd things to leave out. Mabee it's old or something.
Also the controller loses the rumbling ness when it gained it's motion detectionness.
http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/09-05-2006-2756.html
thats what they said anyway, i'm pretty shure it's because that lawsuit.
#328
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Gran Turismo HD!!!!!! what a name for a title!!!
1920 x 1080... and it looks like they've merged Tourist Trophy into the mix! nice.
1920 x 1080... and it looks like they've merged Tourist Trophy into the mix! nice.
#329
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hmm are these the controllers???
#330
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oops need to keep reading... so its true... the boomerang is a figment of the past!!!!! yay.
#331
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ok... the analog control offered by this is going to be KILLER. So refined and precise. FPS's may actually be enjoyable!
Also happy about the improvements in loading times, thanks to the HD. It looks like Sony has put on quite a show at E3. Good for 'em.
6:38 - The controller's got X-Y-Z, pitch, roll, yaw, lateral motion detection. The controller uses bluetooth and wireless controls. It's lighter than the PS2 controller. This is interesting, because it suddenly makes Microsoft look like the odd man out on the motion-sensing controller front. How will Microsoft respond to the fact that they're the only one of the three that doesn't have a controller that support user input via natural movement of the controller?
#332
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this confirms a 360 purchase for me. PS3 looks like a real let down... especially at $600 for the premium model!
the online UI looks horrid. Live seems for more innovative.
any assurance of 1080P titles for launch? doubt it.
i never liked the PS2 controller, so im not impressed that they left it the same. motion detection or not (sounds like a gimmick in this configuration anyway).
the online UI looks horrid. Live seems for more innovative.
any assurance of 1080P titles for launch? doubt it.
i never liked the PS2 controller, so im not impressed that they left it the same. motion detection or not (sounds like a gimmick in this configuration anyway).
#333
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Originally Posted by srika
ok... the analog control offered by this is going to be KILLER. So refined and precise.
a list of feature soup and you're able to determine its refinement and precision?
#334
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Sony stock is gonna be in a world of hurt.
#335
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Originally Posted by soopa
uhhhhh
a list of feature soup and you're able to determine its refinement and precision?
a list of feature soup and you're able to determine its refinement and precision?
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MOTION DETECTION!?!?!?!?!? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!
And all the sony guys were talking about how the nintendo controller motion detection was a gimmick. how about sony's shit now?
sony fanboys are a fucking joke.
And all the sony guys were talking about how the nintendo controller motion detection was a gimmick. how about sony's shit now?
sony fanboys are a fucking joke.
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Ugh... $600 for the full featured PS3? I'll pass.
Sony attacked MS for putting out 2 models, yet Sony does the same thing, but the $500 model is missing HDMI (no 1080p movies), no wifi, no memory stick / SD / CF functionality. At least the 360 core model can be upgraded. You can't add a HDMI output to the $500 PS3 model.
Sony lost the lawsuit from Immersion so they had to remove rumble functionality from the PS3. In it's place, they added a lame copy of the Wii remote.
They made the PS3 much heavier and larger than the original mockup. Here are the specs in comparison to the 360 and Xbox. The PS3 is now larger than the original Xbox:
PS3: 325mm x 98mm x 274mm / 5kg
Xbox: 320mm x 101mm x 260mm / 3.84kg
Xbox 360: 309mm x 83mm x 258mm /3.49kg
Lastly, many of the playable games look pretty meh. The videos they showed of games like MGS4 looked good, but they were videos. The games that were playable weren't nearly as impressive. Here are a few examples of screenshots released today:
Warhawk:
Motorstorm:
Gran Turismo HD:
F1 06
Sony attacked MS for putting out 2 models, yet Sony does the same thing, but the $500 model is missing HDMI (no 1080p movies), no wifi, no memory stick / SD / CF functionality. At least the 360 core model can be upgraded. You can't add a HDMI output to the $500 PS3 model.
Sony lost the lawsuit from Immersion so they had to remove rumble functionality from the PS3. In it's place, they added a lame copy of the Wii remote.
They made the PS3 much heavier and larger than the original mockup. Here are the specs in comparison to the 360 and Xbox. The PS3 is now larger than the original Xbox:
PS3: 325mm x 98mm x 274mm / 5kg
Xbox: 320mm x 101mm x 260mm / 3.84kg
Xbox 360: 309mm x 83mm x 258mm /3.49kg
Lastly, many of the playable games look pretty meh. The videos they showed of games like MGS4 looked good, but they were videos. The games that were playable weren't nearly as impressive. Here are a few examples of screenshots released today:
Warhawk:
Motorstorm:
Gran Turismo HD:
F1 06
#339
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I'm impressed...just um...not at the price.
#340
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But, anyhoo...Since it's announced now and some new info is out, :ibt360vsPS3bitchslapfightonAZ:...
#346
The sizzle in the Steak
more 600 dollar news...
PlayStation 3 prices: $499 and $599
New gaming system will go on sale in U.S. on Nov. 17 with two hard-drive sizes, mimics Nintendo controller
By Chris Morris, CNNMoney.com staff writer
May 9, 2006: 9:55 AM EDT
600 dollars?!?!?
How many familes can throw down 600 bucks for their kids to get a PS3 for Christmas?...add to that additional games, and accessories...you get close to 1 grand!!!
New gaming system will go on sale in U.S. on Nov. 17 with two hard-drive sizes, mimics Nintendo controller
By Chris Morris, CNNMoney.com staff writer
May 9, 2006: 9:55 AM EDT
LOS ANGELES (CNNMoney.com) - When the PlayStation 3 launches in the United States on Nov. 17, it will carry the highest price of any major console launch.
Sony announced plans Monday to offer two packages when the system goes on sale this fall. A PS3 with a 20 GB hard drive will cost consumers $499. Those wanting a larger, 60 GB hard drive will pay $599. The $499 version will also lack several features found in the more expensive one.
The PS3 will be $200 and $300 higher than the launch price of the PlayStation 2 six years ago. It's $100 higher than the current retail price of Microsoft's (Research) Xbox 360.
European gamers will pay 499 and 599 for the two packages.
Gamers were quick to react on message boards, protesting the high price. "My wallet just cried," wrote "DingoStoleMyBaby," a member of Shacknews.com.
Sony (Research) also revealed a key feature of its new controller, showing a functionality that appears very similar to the one Nintendo will offer with the Wii, its new system.
While the controller looks virtually identical to the current PS2 controller, user wrist movements can also be translated into onscreen movement - "but it's based upon our industry standard controller, which has been enjoyed by so many gamers," said Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios.
Nintendo shrugged off the similarities, with a spokesperson saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
The $499 price had been widely speculated, but industry observers were surprised with Sony's decision to offer two packages - as well as with the $599 price.
"At least Sony's giving people advance notice on how much they're going to need to save up," said P.J. McNealy, an analyst for American Technology Research. "I think some people are going to find $599 intimidating - maybe not early adopters, but definitely the mainstream audience."
Sony said it is taking steps to avoid the widespread shortages consumers faced last holiday with the Xbox 360. The company plans to ship 2 million PlayStation 3s at launch and plans to ship another 2 million before the end of 2006. Kaz Hirai, president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said the company also plans to ship an additional 2 million units in the first quarter of 2007.
"The next generation doesn't start until we say it does," said Hirai.
While Sony is offering two pricing options for consumers, the more expensive machine is much more feature rich – and likely the default choice for gamers who can afford it. This is somewhat similar to Microsoft's launch of the Xbox 360, where the more expensive $399 machine actually proved to be the better bargain.
Although Sony did not note these changes in its pre-E3 press conference, printed material handed out by the company indicate that in addition to having a smaller hard drive, the $499 PS3 will not be able to read data from Sony memory sticks, SD or compact flash cards (a feature Sony touted Monday evening). Nor will it offer 802.11 b/g wireless compatibility. And perhaps most importantly to owners of newer high definition television sets, the $499 PS3 will not have an HDMI output.
Sony said many of the features which were removed from the less expensive version could be found on many home computers and it was relying on the assumption that buyers would be able to use those through their home networks.
"It's a computer system," said spokesperson Kim Otzman. "It can be expanded using adapters on the market."
In addition to revealing the system's price and launch date, Sony showcased more than a dozen titles for the PS3, mixing familiar franchises such as "Tekken" and Electronic Arts (Research)' "NBA Live" with new ones, such as "Heavenly Sword," which bears a striking resemblance to the company's own "God of War" franchise.
The PlayStation 3 is powered by the "Cell" processor, which Sony boasts makes the machine 35 times more powerful than the PlayStation 2. It will support Blu-Ray storage devices, which hold significantly more data than today's DVDs, as well as seven wireless controllers, and has outputs for two high-definition televisions (HDTVs). The PS3 will also offer a free online network.
Sony was the first of the three console manufacturers to speak before the beginning of the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the annual trade show of the computer gaming industry. Nintendo and Microsoft both have press conferences scheduled Tuesday.
Sony announced plans Monday to offer two packages when the system goes on sale this fall. A PS3 with a 20 GB hard drive will cost consumers $499. Those wanting a larger, 60 GB hard drive will pay $599. The $499 version will also lack several features found in the more expensive one.
The PS3 will be $200 and $300 higher than the launch price of the PlayStation 2 six years ago. It's $100 higher than the current retail price of Microsoft's (Research) Xbox 360.
European gamers will pay 499 and 599 for the two packages.
Gamers were quick to react on message boards, protesting the high price. "My wallet just cried," wrote "DingoStoleMyBaby," a member of Shacknews.com.
Sony (Research) also revealed a key feature of its new controller, showing a functionality that appears very similar to the one Nintendo will offer with the Wii, its new system.
While the controller looks virtually identical to the current PS2 controller, user wrist movements can also be translated into onscreen movement - "but it's based upon our industry standard controller, which has been enjoyed by so many gamers," said Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios.
Nintendo shrugged off the similarities, with a spokesperson saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
The $499 price had been widely speculated, but industry observers were surprised with Sony's decision to offer two packages - as well as with the $599 price.
"At least Sony's giving people advance notice on how much they're going to need to save up," said P.J. McNealy, an analyst for American Technology Research. "I think some people are going to find $599 intimidating - maybe not early adopters, but definitely the mainstream audience."
Sony said it is taking steps to avoid the widespread shortages consumers faced last holiday with the Xbox 360. The company plans to ship 2 million PlayStation 3s at launch and plans to ship another 2 million before the end of 2006. Kaz Hirai, president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said the company also plans to ship an additional 2 million units in the first quarter of 2007.
"The next generation doesn't start until we say it does," said Hirai.
While Sony is offering two pricing options for consumers, the more expensive machine is much more feature rich – and likely the default choice for gamers who can afford it. This is somewhat similar to Microsoft's launch of the Xbox 360, where the more expensive $399 machine actually proved to be the better bargain.
Although Sony did not note these changes in its pre-E3 press conference, printed material handed out by the company indicate that in addition to having a smaller hard drive, the $499 PS3 will not be able to read data from Sony memory sticks, SD or compact flash cards (a feature Sony touted Monday evening). Nor will it offer 802.11 b/g wireless compatibility. And perhaps most importantly to owners of newer high definition television sets, the $499 PS3 will not have an HDMI output.
Sony said many of the features which were removed from the less expensive version could be found on many home computers and it was relying on the assumption that buyers would be able to use those through their home networks.
"It's a computer system," said spokesperson Kim Otzman. "It can be expanded using adapters on the market."
In addition to revealing the system's price and launch date, Sony showcased more than a dozen titles for the PS3, mixing familiar franchises such as "Tekken" and Electronic Arts (Research)' "NBA Live" with new ones, such as "Heavenly Sword," which bears a striking resemblance to the company's own "God of War" franchise.
The PlayStation 3 is powered by the "Cell" processor, which Sony boasts makes the machine 35 times more powerful than the PlayStation 2. It will support Blu-Ray storage devices, which hold significantly more data than today's DVDs, as well as seven wireless controllers, and has outputs for two high-definition televisions (HDTVs). The PS3 will also offer a free online network.
Sony was the first of the three console manufacturers to speak before the beginning of the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the annual trade show of the computer gaming industry. Nintendo and Microsoft both have press conferences scheduled Tuesday.
How many familes can throw down 600 bucks for their kids to get a PS3 for Christmas?...add to that additional games, and accessories...you get close to 1 grand!!!
#347
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
PlayStation 3 prices: $499 and $599
New gaming system will go on sale in U.S. on Nov. 17 with two hard-drive sizes, mimics Nintendo controller
By Chris Morris, CNNMoney.com staff writer
May 9, 2006: 9:55 AM EDT
600 dollars?!?!?
How many familes can throw down 600 bucks for their kids to get a PS3 for Christmas?...add to that additional games, and accessories...you get close to 1 grand!!!
New gaming system will go on sale in U.S. on Nov. 17 with two hard-drive sizes, mimics Nintendo controller
By Chris Morris, CNNMoney.com staff writer
May 9, 2006: 9:55 AM EDT
600 dollars?!?!?
How many familes can throw down 600 bucks for their kids to get a PS3 for Christmas?...add to that additional games, and accessories...you get close to 1 grand!!!
Originally Posted by slayer202
we will be the ones selling extras to these haters on ebay for $1000
#348
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Ill be getting the ps3.
#349
The sizzle in the Steak
Originally Posted by yunginTL
thats why seven out of 10 people who buy it from where i work (circuit city) apply for a credit card and get interest free for like 18 months and shit....
#350
trill recognize trill
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Brilliant!! Pull a line of credit for a game system.
#351
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Well, when I make my decision for the next console (wanted to get both the 360 and PS3..but not when the PS3 is 600 bucks) I will pay cash for it.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
#352
trill recognize trill
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
^^ Well, when I make my decision for the next console (wanted to get both the 360 and PS3..but not when the PS3 is 600 bucks) I will pay cash for it.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
I like to buy everything cash i dont believe in credit, my next car is gonna be paid in full. only thing i would use loans/ credit for is a house or education loan
#353
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
^^ Well, when I make my decision for the next console (wanted to get both the 360 and PS3..but not when the PS3 is 600 bucks) I will pay cash for it.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
Duh.
#355
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
^^ Well, when I make my decision for the next console (wanted to get both the 360 and PS3..but not when the PS3 is 600 bucks) I will pay cash for it.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
Buying toys on credit with money you do not have is laughable.
Unless said store credit card has a no interest program, which many do, in which case it is free money.
#356
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Originally Posted by Silver™
Unless said store credit card has a no interest program, which many do, in which case it is free money.
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No wifi on the lower model? how will it interface with my psp?
I think that I will buy the Wii. Its not like I have my own high def tv anyway.
I think that I will buy the Wii. Its not like I have my own high def tv anyway.
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Also, $100 upgrade for a wifi card ($10 in hardware), a type of video connector (im saying $2 MAX), and a hard drive that (while substantially larger) is an extra $10. Im a loyal sony fan but they are pushing me away...
#359
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Originally Posted by Python2121
Also, $100 upgrade for a wifi card ($10 in hardware), a type of video connector (im saying $2 MAX), and a hard drive that (while substantially larger) is an extra $10. Im a loyal sony fan but they are pushing me away...
#360
The sizzle in the Steak
Sony will sell the initial amount that hit the store shelves in the beginning....fan boys will buy them no matter how much they cost. After that, Sony will find the 600 price tag tough to move off of the shelves.