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Old 11-27-2014, 09:03 PM
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Come on under $3 a gallon gas



Crude Oil Jan 15 (CLF15.NYM) - NY Mercantile

$68.78 - down $4.91 (6.66%)


Oil Prices Plunge After OPEC Stays Put - WSJ

OPEC Leaves Production Target Unchanged

Brent Crude Price Plunges to Fresh Four-Year Low

VIENNA—OPEC members rejected calls for drastic action to cut their oil output, keeping their production ceiling unchanged and suggesting the cartel is bracing for lower prices longer term.

The decision on Thursday sent crude prices into a tailspin and spilled into currency and European stock markets. If Thursday’s market rout proves lasting, it will provide more relief to consumers in gasoline-guzzling countries like the U.S. But it is hammering the finances of big oil producers, from Russia to Venezuela, and biting into profit at oil companies big and small.

The 12-member Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, who collectively pump more than one-third of the world’s oil, agreed at their meeting in Vienna to stick to the group’s current target of producing 30 million barrels a day.


Since the cartel is currently pumping more than its ceiling, the decision -- backed by a commitment from OPEC members to comply with it -- implies a cut of around 300,000 barrels a day, based on OPEC’s own figures. That would put only a relatively small dent in global oil supply even if implemented, and the group has exceeded its ceilings most quarters since late 2011.

The decision sent oil prices tumbling, with the West Texas Intermediate benchmark falling below $70 a barrel for the first time in more than four years. Oil for January delivery fell $4.64, or 6.3%, to $69.05 a barrel as electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange halted at 1 p.m. Thursday. The Nymex floor was closed Thursday in observance of Thanksgiving. The global Brent contract for January fell $5.17, or 6.7%, to $72.58 a barrel on the ICE Futures Europe exchange.

Currencies of major oil producing countries slid, with the Russian ruble hitting a record low against the euro and nearing an all-time low against the dollar. Share prices of major European oil companies dived, with Royal Dutch Shell PLC down 4.3%, Total SA off 4.1% and BP falling 2.7%.

Analysts had estimated OPEC would need to take 1 million to 1.5 million barrels a day off the market to support oil prices, which have fallen by more than 30% since the summer.

The absence of stronger OPEC action makes a rebound in oil prices less probable, putting more strain on oil-producing countries which became used to oil prices above $100 a barrel for much of the time since early 2011.
Among OPEC’s members, only Qatar and Kuwait will be able to balance their budgets next year with prices at their current level.

The biggest losers from the current price trend could include Russia, which is already suffering from an economic slowdown and feeling the effects of both lower oil revenues and Western sanctions imposed because of the Ukraine conflict.

But the drop in prices has helped consumers in developed countries such as the U.S. heading into the holiday shopping season. Lower prices at the pump and on heating bills give consumers more money for discretionary items such as restaurant meals, electronics and haircuts.

The decline in gas prices over the last six months is equivalent to a $75 billion tax cut in the U.S., said economists at Goldman Sachs in research published Wednesday. Falling fuel prices also reduce production and shipping costs for an array of U.S. manufacturers, farmers and businesses.

The national average for regular gasoline fell to a four-year low of nearly $2.80 a gallon on Thursday, according to auto club AAA. Gas prices were as high as $3.68 at the end of June.

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While most OPEC countries want to see global oil supply reduced to help boost prices, most individual members have been unwilling to cut their own production for fear of losing crucial oil-related income and market share. Algeria and Venezuela said they would cut their own production if a collective cut is agreed.

Another problem for OPEC is that if it were to cut production sharply, resulting higher oil prices might only help incentivize yet more production from U.S. shale oil leading OPEC to lose more of its share of global markets.

Iraq’s oil minister Adel Abdul-Mehdi said OPEC was left with little choice but to maintain its production target, saying a deeper cut might not raise prices and could result in countries losing market share.

Venezuela, which will need oil prices at $117.50 a barrel to balance its government budget next year according to Deutsche Bank , proposed a sharp output cut, according to people familiar with the meeting. Beforehand its representative Mr. Ramirez told reporters he wanted two million barrels a day of oversupply out of the market.

That idea was aggressively opposed by OPEC’s Gulf members, led by the group’s largest producer, Saudi Arabia, which has sought to maintain its market share—a third of OPEC’s total production—by cutting prices in recent months.


Which OPEC Members Are Breaking Even?

Each OPEC member needs to sell oil at a certain price to balance its budget. But there is a wide gap between the prices at which different members break even. Limiting output would raise prices but individual countries would risk losing market share.



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Old 11-28-2014, 05:50 AM
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might as well call it $2.66 a gallon here in MN where I live.

Michigan is about to get a serious gas tax increase over the next few years

The gas tax would effectively rise to 25 cents in April, 31 cents in 2016, 36 cents in 2017 and 41 cents in 2018 based on current prices.
Old 11-28-2014, 11:51 AM
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$3.07 for regular this morning at the local 76, Shell, and Chevron stations. I guess oil needs to hit $65 before I see under $3


Energy sector imploded this morning. Just about everything's down and hitting new 52 wk lows.
Old 11-28-2014, 12:12 PM
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I gassed up at the Costco in Maui, HI 1.5 weeks ago.

$3.31/gal for regular


What's funny everywhere else was like $4.30/gal
Old 11-28-2014, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
$3.07 for regular this morning at the local 76, Shell, and Chevron stations. I guess oil needs to hit $65 before I see under $3


Energy sector imploded this morning. Just about everything's down and hitting new 52 wk lows.
I gassed up last night for $3.25/gal for premium

Regular was $2.99/gal paid by cash. Or $3.05 for credit/debit.
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$260 gal on the way to work today for 87
Old 11-29-2014, 12:00 AM
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Old 12-01-2014, 02:57 PM
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I've seen regular down to about $2.89 and $2.99 or so, but I still have you all beat for 93 octane:

$3.729


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Old 12-01-2014, 05:54 PM
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I think it has been $3.22 per gallon for premium and $2.94 for regular @ Costco in Marina del Rey for the past couple of weeks.
Old 12-01-2014, 06:06 PM
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$2.34 a gallon for regular at Sams here in Springfield, MO. I filled up for $2.56 a gallon premium the other day. Loving it!
Old 12-02-2014, 07:43 AM
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Saw 2.94 for premium today
Old 12-02-2014, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Saw 2.94 for premium today
Man, that's $.50-$.80 a gallon cheaper than here in MD though I think that may be in part to gas taxes too.
Old 12-02-2014, 09:18 AM
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Okay, I filled up last night and prices are coming down nicely.

Paid $3.269 for 93 octane.

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Old 12-02-2014, 11:39 AM
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I paid $2.89 for premium here this morning...
Old 12-09-2014, 02:28 AM
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Filled up the Elantra with 87 regular for $2.89 this evening although cheapo brand gas can be had for $2.59 or so on the east side of town. It was still slightly above 'E' so I got out of the gas station for $27.50. I'm REALLY hoping we get below $2 a gallon because that means I can fill from empty for around or slightly less than $20, something I never thought I'd do with this car.
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On my commute regular is $2.49 and diesel is down to $3.20 (not so reason for me to pay attention to that)
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2.899 here this morning for 93.
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
I filled up on Saturday. This is odd, but prices for 87 octane went down $0.07 and increased $0.17 for 89 and $0.41 for 93 octane. Screwed.

Paid $3.679 for 93 octane.


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Originally Posted by cmschmie
On my commute regular is $2.49 and diesel is down to $3.20 (not so reason for me to pay attention to that)
Diesel is still $3.65 here, probably because of the winter blend.

Regular is about the same at $2.49.
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Finally under $3. At Shell, 87 is $2.97, 89 is $3.07, and 91 is $3.19

AmEx also has a special sign up offer where I get $5 back when I spend $30 or more at Shell. That's like another $0.40 off per gallon for a 12 gal fill up.



Meanwhile....

Crude Oil @ $60.90 or -4.58% today

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Old 12-10-2014, 02:06 PM
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$2.5x at Sams and Costco.


$2.65 at Shell with debit card then 3 cents off with FRN.
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Well, would you look at this!

I cannot remember the last time 93 octane was around $3. It's so nice to be able to fill up the tank for $30.

Paid $3.049 for 93 octane last night, December 11th, 2014.



According to my Fuelly stats for my car, the lowest I've ever paid for 93 octane was $3.579 back on December 23rd, 2012 (besides 12/1/14).

The highest I've ever paid for 93 octane is $4.799 on May 9th, 2013 and April 15th, 2014.

My average price is $4.18 per gallon.

If 93 octane goes under $3, it will be like winning the lottery!
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Just paid 2.93 at shell for 93oct
Old 12-12-2014, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
If 93 octane goes under $3, it will be like winning the lottery!
93 will definitely be under $3 for you. I'll probably even see 91 under $3 soon.

Oil just dipped into low $58 territory this morning. First time in 5 years they say. Some are saying we'll see $45 oil soon.

Oil sinks below $59 after IEA cuts demand outlook - MarketWatch

Oil sinks below $59 after IEA cuts demand outlook

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — Crude-oil futures fell Friday after the International Energy Agency delivered the latest reduction to forecasts for global oil demand.

On the New York Mercantile Exchange, light, sweet crude futures for delivery in January CLF5, -2.99% fell $1.27, or 2.2%, to $58.69 a barrel. Futures ended the previous session below the key $60 level for the first time in five years.

January Brent crude on London’s ICE Futures exchange LCOF5, -2.42% fell $1.13, or 1.8%, to $62.58 a barrel on Friday. Brent also closed at its lowest level since 2009 on Thursday.

Crude losses deepened after the IEA cut its 2015 global oil-demand view by 230,000 barrels a day to about 900,000 barrels a day.

Both WTI and Brent crude have now lost almost 45% of their value since June this year, in what market participants are now calling the “oil shock of 2014”.
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For some reason, my no-ethanol premium doesn't seem to keep in line with national gas price averages. When 10% ethanol premium is at $3.07, my no-ethanol is at $4.59. I'm sure the gas station is making a nice profit Bullshit...

If the price of ethanol blend goes down even further and no-ethanol doesn't, I'm seriously going to consider going back to filling up with the cheaper ethanol blend.
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Wow... I just paid $2.92 for premium @ Costco in Marina Del Rey/Culver City, which is pretty low.
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$2.169 for regular yesterday!
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Under $3 for 93 octane! Holy cow!!!

Paid $2.959 for 93 octane.

AZuser, you were right!

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^^^ what part of chicago do you even live in? In st charles, 87's close to 2.40, costo has 87 for $2.30.
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$2.85 for 93
$2.53 for Regular

This is Boston suburbs at an Irving I usually fill up at. It's been dropping steadily.
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^^^ what part of chicago do you even live in? In st charles, 87's close to 2.40, costo has 87 for $2.30.
I work in the west suburbs (by O'Hare), and live in the NW suburbs. This is the lowest I've seen by me.

Seems like further south by you is cheaper. Naturally, further away from the city.
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I got 93 for $2.63 yesterday.
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2.79 for 87 at Shell. Only 29 to fill up from empty.
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Gas is a nice $2.28 9/10 over here for 87 at the BP off of 5 at the MSP airport at the corner of edgecumbe W7 and 5
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Reports on the radio this morning of $1.83 in South Houston
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:hump: $2.83 at Shell $34 to fill up.

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