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10-02-2009, 02:38 PM
#81
I'll tell you people on POTN have more money than effing brains.
How can you buy a BRAND new camera body and then bitch that another's company software won't open the RAW files.
Do we have to wait for Adobe to update their software? :BOOMbulletintoTHEIRhead:
How can you buy a BRAND new camera body and then bitch that another's company software won't open the RAW files.
Do we have to wait for Adobe to update their software? :BOOMbulletintoTHEIRhead:
10-02-2009, 02:42 PM
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Wait so it can work on a fx camera? how usuable is it then when in cropped mode?
and is it only problems with canon that a ff/fx lens fitted on a cropped body might hit the mirror or does nikon have it too?
and is it only problems with canon that a ff/fx lens fitted on a cropped body might hit the mirror or does nikon have it too?
10-02-2009, 02:50 PM
#84
There are limits, from what I've read you can get good images from 13 or 14-16mm w/o a filter or lens hood.
10-02-2009, 02:51 PM
#85
Burning Brakes
so I guess my father-in-law is sending me 2 different kinds of umbrellas, strobes, stands, a bunch of graduated ND filters, some other flash units, and a bunch of other stuff down to me next week. I have no clue on the brand and other stuff, but hey, it's free and I can practice with it!
Too bad he didn't shoot canon back when he was really into it so he could send me lenses. He only has leica film bodies and a bunch of leica lenses, and I know he won't send me that stuff.
Too bad he didn't shoot canon back when he was really into it so he could send me lenses. He only has leica film bodies and a bunch of leica lenses, and I know he won't send me that stuff.
10-02-2009, 02:57 PM
#86
Earth-bound misfit
They're also surprised that Adobe won't update CS3. I certainly wouldn't expect them to.so I guess my father-in-law is sending me 2 different kinds of umbrellas, strobes, stands, a bunch of graduated ND filters, some other flash units, and a bunch of other stuff down to me next week. I have no clue on the brand and other stuff, but hey, it's free and I can practice with it!
Too bad he didn't shoot canon back when he was really into it so he could send me lenses. He only has leica film bodies and a bunch of leica lenses, and I know he won't send me that stuff.
Too bad he didn't shoot canon back when he was really into it so he could send me lenses. He only has leica film bodies and a bunch of leica lenses, and I know he won't send me that stuff.
10-02-2009, 03:03 PM
#88
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10-02-2009, 03:06 PM
#89
Earth-bound misfit
omg, it must be FRIDAY!
10-02-2009, 03:06 PM
#90
Big Block go VROOOM!
Will we ever see mainstream DSLRs abandoning proprietary RAW and writing DNGs? Seems like it's starting to catch on in the high end of the p&s market. There's probably some Adobe licensing terms that would cost the manufacturers, but I have to think this would be more than offset by the cost savings from reduced software development.
10-02-2009, 03:09 PM
#91
Earth-bound misfit
Will we ever see mainstream DSLRs abandoning proprietary RAW and writing DNGs? Seems like it's starting to catch on in the high end of the p&s market. There's probably some Adobe licensing terms that would cost the manufacturers, but I have to think this would be more than offset by the cost savings from reduced software development.
I'm honestly pretty uneducated about the whole thing, though, and am trying to catch up a bit.
10-02-2009, 03:13 PM
#92
Adobe doesn't want fees, they want to be able to put out software that doesn't need to be worked on for every camera body release.
I don't think we'll ever see Nikon and Canon succumb to DNG, it would allow many to see their little secrets.
From everything I've read about Nikon the RAW images are the best when open and used in Nikon Capture NX2. But you have to pay for it. And Canon's DPP is very clunky.
I don't think we'll ever see Nikon and Canon succumb to DNG, it would allow many to see their little secrets.
From everything I've read about Nikon the RAW images are the best when open and used in Nikon Capture NX2. But you have to pay for it. And Canon's DPP is very clunky.
10-02-2009, 03:14 PM
#93
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someone had just posted this on another board.. .when I posted it here I was like damn sweet now I can post random pictars up in this biatch. But what's crazy is whatwith the Denny's mention on page 1 this is actually *relevant*!!! oh, the order of chaos, I <3 it.
10-02-2009, 03:39 PM
#95
Earth-bound misfit
Adobe doesn't want fees, they want to be able to put out software that doesn't need to be worked on for every camera body release.
I don't think we'll ever see Nikon and Canon succumb to DNG, it would allow many to see their little secrets.
From everything I've read about Nikon the RAW images are the best when open and used in Nikon Capture NX2. But you have to pay for it. And Canon's DPP is very clunky.
I don't think we'll ever see Nikon and Canon succumb to DNG, it would allow many to see their little secrets.
From everything I've read about Nikon the RAW images are the best when open and used in Nikon Capture NX2. But you have to pay for it. And Canon's DPP is very clunky.
10-02-2009, 03:45 PM
#96
I know they want to sell their software, but if they get the camera companies to switch to DNG, most won't have a reason to switch to the upgraded versions. It is Adobe who is trying to get the camera makers to use their DNG.
I feel the same way that the uptight guy got, thousands for hardware and then get made that your choice of software makes you upgrade to the newer software when they stopped supporting the one you bought.
I feel the same way that the uptight guy got, thousands for hardware and then get made that your choice of software makes you upgrade to the newer software when they stopped supporting the one you bought.
10-02-2009, 03:50 PM
#97
Earth-bound misfit
Well sure, and I'm not mad about it, and don't expect an update to anything but the most recent version. I just believe in making informed decisions. I didn't know anything about DNG's or how they behave in ACR, so I wrote to my friend to ask. If they behave exactly like RAW files, take up less room and are the second coming everyone wants you to believe, then woohoo, no REASON to upgrade. I'm very happy with CS3. However, the gurus advised to archive both the RAW and the DNG (contrary to what some photog pros out there are saying). If that's the case, I find it cumbersome, and intend to just upgrade. 
Informed decision.
Informed decision.
10-02-2009, 03:51 PM
#98
yes.
10-02-2009, 04:22 PM
#99
Big Block go VROOOM!
Another reason that the camera companies may be hesitant to switch away from proprietary RAW formats is that they can use them to cover up slight flaws or imperfections that may be inherent to their systems.
Say the new sensor/engine combination you come out with consistently outputs images with a green tint when the software white balance is set to match the camera setting. No problem, just shift all the colors away from green as part of the processing for that RAW format. That's sort of an oversimplified example but you get the idea.
BTW- I've seen this first hand with the Panasonic LX-3. If you used Panasonic's RAW converter, your images showed very little-to-zero optical distortion. If, however, you used one of the 3rd party RAW converters that rolled their own conversion routines, you could see visible barrel distortion in the the same images. The distortion was being processed out as part of Panasonic's own RAW conversion routines.
Say the new sensor/engine combination you come out with consistently outputs images with a green tint when the software white balance is set to match the camera setting. No problem, just shift all the colors away from green as part of the processing for that RAW format. That's sort of an oversimplified example but you get the idea.
BTW- I've seen this first hand with the Panasonic LX-3. If you used Panasonic's RAW converter, your images showed very little-to-zero optical distortion. If, however, you used one of the 3rd party RAW converters that rolled their own conversion routines, you could see visible barrel distortion in the the same images. The distortion was being processed out as part of Panasonic's own RAW conversion routines.
10-02-2009, 04:24 PM
#100
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damn. it's almost like a printer driver... or any other driver..
10-02-2009, 04:40 PM
#101
Earth-bound misfit
Another reason that the camera companies may be hesitant to switch away from proprietary RAW formats is that they can use them to cover up slight flaws or imperfections that may be inherent to their systems.
Say the new sensor/engine combination you come out with consistently outputs images with a green tint when the software white balance is set to match the camera setting. No problem, just shift all the colors away from green as part of the processing for that RAW format. That's sort of an oversimplified example but you get the idea.
BTW- I've seen this first hand with the Panasonic LX-3. If you used Panasonic's RAW converter, your images showed very little-to-zero optical distortion. If, however, you used one of the 3rd party RAW converters that rolled their own conversion routines, you could see visible barrel distortion in the the same images. The distortion was being processed out as part of Panasonic's own RAW conversion routines.
Say the new sensor/engine combination you come out with consistently outputs images with a green tint when the software white balance is set to match the camera setting. No problem, just shift all the colors away from green as part of the processing for that RAW format. That's sort of an oversimplified example but you get the idea.
BTW- I've seen this first hand with the Panasonic LX-3. If you used Panasonic's RAW converter, your images showed very little-to-zero optical distortion. If, however, you used one of the 3rd party RAW converters that rolled their own conversion routines, you could see visible barrel distortion in the the same images. The distortion was being processed out as part of Panasonic's own RAW conversion routines.
10-02-2009, 05:25 PM
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10-02-2009, 06:39 PM
#103
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just found (and added) Brooke Burke on Twitter.... my day is complete.
10-02-2009, 06:42 PM
#104
Is her user name "smooth belly to heaven"?
10-02-2009, 06:45 PM
#105
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it's 'brookeburke'. I just happened to come across it on someone else's twitter. There are so many ppl on twitter you can't possibly (I can't) have the patience to look everyone up. So most of the time (since I kinda started looking/using it again) I see the names on someone else and then I add em.
10-02-2009, 06:46 PM
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10-02-2009, 06:47 PM
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10-02-2009, 07:21 PM
#108
Don't feed the...WTF?
Hey Srika - kind of off topic, but I got grandfathered into the oddness with my Denny's comment.. lol 
I posted this elsewhere, and want to see what you guys think...
"So my title should read "Don't feed the.... WTF?" But instead the forum has decided what I really wanted to say is "Do't fd th...WTF?"
Anyone else have this issue? It just deletes random letters when I try to change my title to anything. Dang it."
Any ideas? Happens to E's and N's for sure - I haven't exactly gone through the whole alphabet to check the rest.
I posted this elsewhere, and want to see what you guys think...
"So my title should read "Don't feed the.... WTF?" But instead the forum has decided what I really wanted to say is "Do't fd th...WTF?"
Anyone else have this issue? It just deletes random letters when I try to change my title to anything. Dang it."
Any ideas? Happens to E's and N's for sure - I haven't exactly gone through the whole alphabet to check the rest.
10-02-2009, 07:21 PM
#109
Photography Nerd
I was shooting a wedding reception last weekend and my 580EX2 overheated! I've never had that happen before, but of course it happened right before the first dance so I had to make a mad dash across the hall to get my 430EX. Luckily I got there right before the moment, but it's something I'll watch out for at future events.
10-02-2009, 07:34 PM
#111
Creepy guy in the mirror.
I am lacking motivation and subjects to shoot... It has something to do with available time, but I find myself in the basement looking at my gear but don't bother to do anything about it...
When I do get the camera out I simply take snapshots...
When I do get the camera out I simply take snapshots...
10-02-2009, 07:40 PM
#112
Photography Nerd
The flash completely turned off at first, then when I switched it on, the pilot light never came on, even with a fresh set of batteries. I shot with the 430 for about 10 minutes and when I went back to check on the 580, it was working fine.
10-02-2009, 07:43 PM
#113
Photography Nerd
Try going to http://www.flickr.com/map/ and browse some photos of places in your area for inspiration!
10-02-2009, 07:55 PM
#114
Creepy guy in the mirror.
Luckily the fall colours are coming out, so do some searching for a park you haven't been to in your area. SS and I found a really cool park about 30 minutes north of our place that we had never heard of before, but once we got there we fell in love with it.
Try going to http://www.flickr.com/map/ and browse some photos of places in your area for inspiration!
Try going to http://www.flickr.com/map/ and browse some photos of places in your area for inspiration!
10-02-2009, 08:08 PM
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Try finding a photo buddy too shooting alone isn't quite that exciting if you bring a pal even someone who doesnt mind joining you for the adventure it could be a blast =P
10-02-2009, 08:24 PM
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Hey Srika - kind of off topic, but I got grandfathered into the oddness with my Denny's comment.. lol
I posted this elsewhere, and want to see what you guys think...
"So my title should read "Don't feed the.... WTF?" But instead the forum has decided what I really wanted to say is "Do't fd th...WTF?"
Anyone else have this issue? It just deletes random letters when I try to change my title to anything. Dang it."
Any ideas? Happens to E's and N's for sure - I haven't exactly gone through the whole alphabet to check the rest.
I posted this elsewhere, and want to see what you guys think...
"So my title should read "Don't feed the.... WTF?" But instead the forum has decided what I really wanted to say is "Do't fd th...WTF?"
Anyone else have this issue? It just deletes random letters when I try to change my title to anything. Dang it."
Any ideas? Happens to E's and N's for sure - I haven't exactly gone through the whole alphabet to check the rest.
10-02-2009, 08:29 PM
#117
Don't feed the...WTF?
so to clarify... I look at your title now and its all farkled... are you unable to change it? I haven't heard of this happening for anyone else.. have you tried basic stuff like deleting cookies clearing temp files, logout of AZ, rebooting etc. etc and try setting it again?
10-02-2009, 08:32 PM
#118
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just saw thread in Ramblings.. umm.. I'm guessing someone is looking into it. 
10-02-2009, 09:53 PM
#119
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Is there any way to hide tags in flickr? 
10-02-2009, 11:37 PM
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