Adobe: Lightroom News and Discussion Thread
12-20-2016, 10:52 AM
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I'm on the CC...with a discount. And while its nice, its obnoxious. Adobe is a huge company and they are dominating. BUT they are assholes and the tech under their hood is behind the times. Its why Apple stopped natively supporting Flash. Its why there are so many users who are annoyed with Adobe but stuck in their ecosystem.
You've got two supposedly competing platforms out there....Iridescent and Capture One. Many people have been moving over and switching to them. BUT...the one thing Lightroom does better than them is their organization and archiving. I also like their GUI.
But Adobe HAS to get on board. Their apps could be blazingly fast if they retooled to use what Apple has given them in the hardware and core software. Instead adobe relies on eating up all your RAM and dragging ass half the time. It doesn't have to be that way, and it hasn't had to for years now.
12-20-2016, 10:55 AM
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but if you're perfectly happy with the product you purchased originally?
IMO this all came about because they got sick of finding new ways to tweak the software to make it different enough to justify purchasing the newest release. Now they don't have to worry about updating/upgrading because they got your money anyway.
IMO this all came about because they got sick of finding new ways to tweak the software to make it different enough to justify purchasing the newest release. Now they don't have to worry about updating/upgrading because they got your money anyway.
12-20-2016, 11:29 AM
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Anyone use Capture One regularly? Thoughts and opinions on it vs Lightroom?
12-28-2016, 03:26 PM
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can be used to extend an existing subscription.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...aphy_plan.html
12-28-2016, 10:00 PM
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close in price. Adobe CC photography is discounted till the end of the year to $99/yr.
can be used to extend an existing subscription.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...aphy_plan.html
can be used to extend an existing subscription.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...aphy_plan.html
If you're on the fence do it. I just some stuff that I would never have been able to do with out it.
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12-29-2016, 02:17 AM
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12-30-2016, 03:17 PM
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I bought the Sony only version when it was only $50... (not sure if it's still $50), originally I bought it mainly for the "Keystone" tool, which Adobe ended up bringing to Lightroom call "Guided Upright Tool" (though Capture One's version is easier to use)... THAT said, if I had the patience to learn how to use Capture One I would use it more, IMO it's better than Lightroom because you can do layers and masks like PS... but that learning curve
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10-18-2017, 10:03 AM
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Lightroom CC moved to cloud only service. $19.99/month includes 1TB storage.
Non-cloud (current) Lightroom CC renamed to Lightroom Classic CC. Remains $9.99/month
Non-cloud (current) Lightroom CC renamed to Lightroom Classic CC. Remains $9.99/month
Adobe's annual Adobe MAX conference kicks off today, and the company is introducing a whole slew of updates to its Creative Cloud platform. Among those updates is a new version of Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC, which is now a full cloud-based photography service.
Lightroom CC has been available cross-platform for some time now with a dedicated Mac app and an iOS app, but with the new cloud service, Adobe is aiming to make editing and organizing photos simpler for both professionals and enthusiasts across multiple devices.
The new version of Lightroom CC continues to offer the same image editing capabilities that have been available in previous versions of Lightroom, but there's a new streamlined user interface with quick adjustment tools and presets that are quicker and easier to use.
All content is stored in the cloud, with Adobe providing users with up to 1TB of storage space that includes support for RAW images.
Full resolution photos stored in Lightroom can be edited on any device using the Lightroom CC app for Mac, the iOS app, or the web interface. Lightroom backs up all photos and keeps edits synced across devices.
Lightroom CC supports Adobe Sensei machine learning technology, which is able to recognize objects and people in photographs to make searching for and finding content simpler. Keywords are automatically applied to photos based on content.
Sharing tools make it simple to share Lightroom CC content directly to social networks, and there's an option to create Lightroom web galleries to showcase multiple photos at once. Lightroom CC also supports integration with Adobe Portfolio.
On iOS devices, the updated Lightroom CC app features the same Adobe Sensei search technology, and it offers an enhanced iPad layout and support for the iOS 11 Files app.
With the launch of the new cloud-based Lightroom CC app, Adobe is not eliminating the previous version of Lightroom. The older non-cloud version of Lightroom, which will continue to focus on a more traditional desktop-first workflow, has been renamed to Lightroom Classic CC. Lightroom Classic CC is also getting several new updates. It is gaining an enhanced Embedded Preview workflow for scrolling through large sets of photos faster than before, and new editing capabilities like a new Color Range and Luminance Masking feature.
With the launch of the Lightroom CC Cloud Photography service, Adobe is introducing new pricing plans. The Lightroom CC Cloud service with 1TB of storage plus Photoshop CC and access to Lightroom for mobile and web is priced at $19.99 per month. For existing Photography subscribers, Adobe is dropping that price to $14.99 per month for the first year.
Adobe is adding Lightroom CC to the existing Creative Cloud Photography plan and providing current subscribers with 20GB of storage space. The plan will continue to cost $9.99 per month and includes Lightroom CC, Lightroom mobile, Lightroom web, Lightroom Classic, and Photoshop CC.
A standalone Lightroom CC plan is available for customers who don't need Photoshop access. It includes 1TB of storage and access to the mobile and web apps for $9.99 per month. For mobile only users, there's a Lightroom Mobile plan for iOS that offers 100GB of cloud storage for $4.99 per month.
More information about Adobe's New Lightroom CC Cloud Photography service can be found on the Adobe website.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/18...cloud-service/
Lightroom CC has been available cross-platform for some time now with a dedicated Mac app and an iOS app, but with the new cloud service, Adobe is aiming to make editing and organizing photos simpler for both professionals and enthusiasts across multiple devices.
The new version of Lightroom CC continues to offer the same image editing capabilities that have been available in previous versions of Lightroom, but there's a new streamlined user interface with quick adjustment tools and presets that are quicker and easier to use.
All content is stored in the cloud, with Adobe providing users with up to 1TB of storage space that includes support for RAW images.
Full resolution photos stored in Lightroom can be edited on any device using the Lightroom CC app for Mac, the iOS app, or the web interface. Lightroom backs up all photos and keeps edits synced across devices.
Lightroom CC supports Adobe Sensei machine learning technology, which is able to recognize objects and people in photographs to make searching for and finding content simpler. Keywords are automatically applied to photos based on content.
Sharing tools make it simple to share Lightroom CC content directly to social networks, and there's an option to create Lightroom web galleries to showcase multiple photos at once. Lightroom CC also supports integration with Adobe Portfolio.
On iOS devices, the updated Lightroom CC app features the same Adobe Sensei search technology, and it offers an enhanced iPad layout and support for the iOS 11 Files app.
With the launch of the new cloud-based Lightroom CC app, Adobe is not eliminating the previous version of Lightroom. The older non-cloud version of Lightroom, which will continue to focus on a more traditional desktop-first workflow, has been renamed to Lightroom Classic CC. Lightroom Classic CC is also getting several new updates. It is gaining an enhanced Embedded Preview workflow for scrolling through large sets of photos faster than before, and new editing capabilities like a new Color Range and Luminance Masking feature.
With the launch of the Lightroom CC Cloud Photography service, Adobe is introducing new pricing plans. The Lightroom CC Cloud service with 1TB of storage plus Photoshop CC and access to Lightroom for mobile and web is priced at $19.99 per month. For existing Photography subscribers, Adobe is dropping that price to $14.99 per month for the first year.
Adobe is adding Lightroom CC to the existing Creative Cloud Photography plan and providing current subscribers with 20GB of storage space. The plan will continue to cost $9.99 per month and includes Lightroom CC, Lightroom mobile, Lightroom web, Lightroom Classic, and Photoshop CC.
A standalone Lightroom CC plan is available for customers who don't need Photoshop access. It includes 1TB of storage and access to the mobile and web apps for $9.99 per month. For mobile only users, there's a Lightroom Mobile plan for iOS that offers 100GB of cloud storage for $4.99 per month.
More information about Adobe's New Lightroom CC Cloud Photography service can be found on the Adobe website.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/18...cloud-service/
10-18-2017, 10:19 AM
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Looks like the standalone version is done for.
6.13 with support for the D850 will be the final update 
6.13 with support for the D850 will be the final update
10-18-2017, 01:35 PM
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just keep using it until you get a new(er) camera that needs support... or go with Capture One? 
10-18-2017, 01:44 PM
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I love how clean the NEW LR CC Interface is. But probably will never use it.
10-18-2017, 02:08 PM
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I don't like how for LR CC everything is in the cloud.
I'll have to get either LR6 and stick with that forever or get LR Classic CC and pray Adobe doesn't eventually drop that one too for the cloud
I'll have to get either LR6 and stick with that forever or get LR Classic CC and pray Adobe doesn't eventually drop that one too for the cloud
10-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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It's not for you, and thats why they have two.... Can't ever see them going all cloud base. I'm thinking only about 15-20% will go for the NEW LRCC.
10-18-2017, 02:21 PM
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Yea but they said they'd keep the standalone version around. Look at how that went
10-18-2017, 02:23 PM
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I won't ever use PS, why can't they offer just a LR subscription?
10-18-2017, 04:43 PM
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It's only ten bucks.... LR was $299 when first released with upgrades of $199, then $149.
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10-18-2017, 07:55 PM
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Upgrades were only like $70-80 towards the end.
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10-18-2017, 07:57 PM
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I don’t know if I like this new set up or now. 1tb is nice. The new pricing structure feels like an up charge.
But with apps like affinity seemingly beating photoshop at its own game. Stick with LR standalone for $10/mos and get that app if you need it.
But with apps like affinity seemingly beating photoshop at its own game. Stick with LR standalone for $10/mos and get that app if you need it.
10-18-2017, 08:11 PM
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They had drop the retail price to $149 before they went CC. I stopped using it at LR3 then started again with LRCC, but it's nit part of my workflow now. Only use it when I have done event shooting and such, hundreds of images to process.
10-18-2017, 08:15 PM
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i havent shot much lately. But I have moved to processing on the iPad Pro.
10-18-2017, 08:46 PM
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For those of us that don't use photoshop its wasted money.
LR5 came out June 2013. Its been 52 months since then.
At $9.99/month you'd have spent $519.48 since then.
If you bought the standalone version of LR5 and upgraded to LR6 you'd have only spent $149 + $79 = $228
Thats a pretty significant difference.
10-18-2017, 09:57 PM
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I don't see it that way... A lot of it, has to do with how much you use it... For me, it's totally worth it, I easily blow $10 on random things...
It's like Netflix, if they have lots of contents that keep you entertaining, then it's worth it, but if you're one of those people that end up spending more time browsing through the menus and not really watch anything, then it's a waste of money
It's like Netflix, if they have lots of contents that keep you entertaining, then it's worth it, but if you're one of those people that end up spending more time browsing through the menus and not really watch anything, then it's a waste of money
10-18-2017, 10:00 PM
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I don't see it that way... A lot of it, has to do with how much you use it... For me, it's totally worth it, I easily blow $10 on random things...
It's like Netflix, if they have lots of contents that keep you entertaining, then it's worth it, but if you're one of those people that end up spending more time browsing through the menus and not really watch anything, then it's a waste of money
It's like Netflix, if they have lots of contents that keep you entertaining, then it's worth it, but if you're one of those people that end up spending more time browsing through the menus and not really watch anything, then it's a waste of money
10-18-2017, 10:24 PM
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Back when I didn't use PS, I still thought it was worth it
10-18-2017, 10:25 PM
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10-19-2017, 09:36 AM
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10-19-2017, 10:37 AM
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THIS!
Those that take a few photos here and there, use the software that came with your camera. Both Canon and Nikon have it. $10.00 per month is nothing for having the most up to date software with features that help me improve my images. THE NEW MASKING IN LRCC is a great feature!
Those that think it's more than they need...., shoot jpeg in camera and you're done. Hell, shoot RAW and edit your images in your camera!
Those that take a few photos here and there, use the software that came with your camera. Both Canon and Nikon have it. $10.00 per month is nothing for having the most up to date software with features that help me improve my images. THE NEW MASKING IN LRCC is a great feature!
Those that think it's more than they need...., shoot jpeg in camera and you're done. Hell, shoot RAW and edit your images in your camera!
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10-19-2017, 10:39 AM
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Where do you find this so called pussy coffee?
10-19-2017, 10:43 AM
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I use LR exclusively and now that it has HDR and pano capabilities built in, I wouldn't really have a need to go to PS anymore. That said, I plan on signing up for the monthly thing. They will occasionally have deals that lower it to $8/mo as well if you buy in for a full year. I think it's totally worth it.
Also, for those who have a newer camera than their LR supports you can use Adobe's free DNG converter to convert the file type to something LR will read. This is what I do now since my version (5 I think?) doesn't support my A7II.
Also, for those who have a newer camera than their LR supports you can use Adobe's free DNG converter to convert the file type to something LR will read. This is what I do now since my version (5 I think?) doesn't support my A7II.
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10-19-2017, 12:33 PM
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I use LR exclusively and now that it has HDR and pano capabilities built in, I wouldn't really have a need to go to PS anymore. That said, I plan on signing up for the monthly thing. They will occasionally have deals that lower it to $8/mo as well if you buy in for a full year. I think it's totally worth it.
Also, for those who have a newer camera than their LR supports you can use Adobe's free DNG converter to convert the file type to something LR will read. This is what I do now since my version (5 I think?) doesn't support my A7II.
Also, for those who have a newer camera than their LR supports you can use Adobe's free DNG converter to convert the file type to something LR will read. This is what I do now since my version (5 I think?) doesn't support my A7II.
Its only a flat $79, no further payments to keep it running.
For ME LR is all I want.
And like you said if I get a newer camera I'll use the DNG converter.
I used it before for the 80D and my copy of LR5.
10-19-2017, 01:48 PM
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Where did you go to get the upgrade to LR6 (same as LR Classic CC?), seems that Adobe only points to the subscription plans...
10-19-2017, 01:53 PM
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Yes, we get it, it's all you want. Stop trying to quantify and dividing by zero every time a new version comes out. You werent going to buy a stand alone version if they came out with a LR7. So why make a big deal out of them not releasing one?
10-19-2017, 02:20 PM
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But here is what I did.
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-clo...ghtroom-6.html
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OK...well my promotion on my student/teacher account ran out...So, now that I dont get the entire Adobe suite for $15/month I wanted to cut my expense. So, I decided to go for the Lightroom CC with 1TB for 9.99/month.
Fuck me sideways. This might have been a mistake.
First of all I had no idea that Lightroom CC on the desktop was totally revamped to look like Lightroom CC on the apps. So, its basically like starting over with a whole new desktop interface...even though its similar to the mobile apps. But now I have to play with it and see if everything from the Classic version is in the CC version.
Second, dealing with migrating the catalog. I'm 45% in the middle of this...which was a pain to initiate to begin with. And I'm curious how it will end up because the file logging and structure in the main Lightroom CC folder is HORRIBLE. Like iPhoto categorizing horrible.
Third, making the account switch I lost everything I had in my mobile app's catalog...thankfully I hadn't done that much yet so I didn't really lose anything...but fuck you adobe, thats bullshit you couldn't let me transfer that over.
To my eye, as someone who has been an adobe user for over 2 decades now...they are now dogshit. I do not like much about them, except the comfort of knowing how to use their interface. I should be thankful they are terrible for Fuji RAF files. As soon as I can find a better all suited alternative...especially for the iPad, Im dropping them like a hot rock.
Fuck you Adobe.
Fuck me sideways. This might have been a mistake.
First of all I had no idea that Lightroom CC on the desktop was totally revamped to look like Lightroom CC on the apps. So, its basically like starting over with a whole new desktop interface...even though its similar to the mobile apps. But now I have to play with it and see if everything from the Classic version is in the CC version.
Second, dealing with migrating the catalog. I'm 45% in the middle of this...which was a pain to initiate to begin with. And I'm curious how it will end up because the file logging and structure in the main Lightroom CC folder is HORRIBLE. Like iPhoto categorizing horrible.
Third, making the account switch I lost everything I had in my mobile app's catalog...thankfully I hadn't done that much yet so I didn't really lose anything...but fuck you adobe, thats bullshit you couldn't let me transfer that over.
To my eye, as someone who has been an adobe user for over 2 decades now...they are now dogshit. I do not like much about them, except the comfort of knowing how to use their interface. I should be thankful they are terrible for Fuji RAF files. As soon as I can find a better all suited alternative...especially for the iPad, Im dropping them like a hot rock.
Fuck you Adobe.
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01-05-2018, 04:30 PM
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Really surprised you didn’t know of the difference. So much information out on this.
01-05-2018, 04:31 PM
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Either way I'm trying to get away from Adobe.
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01-05-2018, 06:43 PM
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Yup...31,000 photo catalog migrated over....not a single organized folder. Just 31,000 fucking photos.
Fuck you Adobe. Fuck you.
Fuck you Adobe. Fuck you.
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I picked up Affinity for macOS when it was on sale for $40.
Seems pretty good so far. I mainly wanted it for stacking and layers/masking.
Seems pretty good so far. I mainly wanted it for stacking and layers/masking.
