Tesla: Model S News
#83
Race Director
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ectric-sedan/1
Tesla has set its sights on getting its Model S to compete against the best luxury cars, not just electric cars. It's promising an interior, for instance, as nice as any that can be found in a similar-size BMW.
To that end, it's unveiled the pricing and specs for the all-electric sedan:
The more money you pay, the more powerful of a battery you'll get. The bigger the battery, the more speed and range you'll have.
For about $57,000, you get a car that can go 110 miles an hour and go 160 miles before it needs to be recharged. At the other extreme, an $87,000 performance model will be able to go 130 mph and rack up 300 miles between charges. Zero to 60 mph? 4.4 seconds.
Every Model S comes with the 17-inch touchscreen, the focal point of the car's infotainment, Tesla says. The batteries will carry warranties for eight years, regardless of miles. Deliveries start in the middle of next year, and Tesla says it has more than 7,000 advance orders.
To that end, it's unveiled the pricing and specs for the all-electric sedan:
The more money you pay, the more powerful of a battery you'll get. The bigger the battery, the more speed and range you'll have.
For about $57,000, you get a car that can go 110 miles an hour and go 160 miles before it needs to be recharged. At the other extreme, an $87,000 performance model will be able to go 130 mph and rack up 300 miles between charges. Zero to 60 mph? 4.4 seconds.
Every Model S comes with the 17-inch touchscreen, the focal point of the car's infotainment, Tesla says. The batteries will carry warranties for eight years, regardless of miles. Deliveries start in the middle of next year, and Tesla says it has more than 7,000 advance orders.
#84
The sizzle in the Steak
300 miles between charges?!?!?
#86
2G TLX-S
#87
Moderator
#88
The sizzle in the Steak
#90
Senior Moderator
I took a look at one in person last night, it's much nicer in person than in pictures. The touchscreen is NICE - GPS on this thing, damn, you'll never get lost. It's HUGE screen. At first it was all white background and blazing bright, but thankfully there is also a 'black' mode that is reversed. The jump seats are totally usable for smaller persons, the head would not be up against the glass, as I had suggested earlier (from just looking at that head-on photo of the seats). Build quality is very good - it's admirable that a company as new as this is producing a car as good looking and responsible as this, as their SECOND offering ever!
This car is BIG, with plenty of room inside for comfortable transit.
This car is BIG, with plenty of room inside for comfortable transit.
#91
The sizzle in the Steak
Nice pics!
...but where are the interior pics?!?!?!
...but where are the interior pics?!?!?!
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#94
Senior Moderator
see the rest of the thread - I didnt take any interior pics
and I could not figure out the door handles..
and I could not figure out the door handles..
#95
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ What a tease. :wink:
#96
Suzuka Master
my uncle put a deposit on one of these. He got one of the premium ones forgot the model type, but it has the "300 mile" electric range.
#97
That flat floorpan just looks nuts.
I guess that's one thing I overlooked regarding full electrics - while the battery pack does take up quite a bit of room, it's still less room than would be taken up by an internal combustion, transmission, driveshaft, gas tank, axles, etc.
That reversed back seat is sweet, perfect for kids. This ain't your old folks' family truckster....
I guess that's one thing I overlooked regarding full electrics - while the battery pack does take up quite a bit of room, it's still less room than would be taken up by an internal combustion, transmission, driveshaft, gas tank, axles, etc.
That reversed back seat is sweet, perfect for kids. This ain't your old folks' family truckster....
#98
Race Director
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...sedans-today/1
The electric-car movement gets a huge boost today as Tesla Motors officials delivers its first batch of new Model S sedan, its first product since its breakthrough roadster and yet another vehicle that could rock the alt-power car world.
The Model S luxury sedan could make an impact because it's premium version offers far greater range than in the past: up to 300 miles. Today's electric cars are usually limited to about 100 miles of range. But it won't come cheap. The cheapest Model S will start at $57,400, before a possible $7,500 in federal tax breaks, and run past $100,000 for the longest-range and most lavish versions.
Still, the company based Fremont, Calif., says it has more than 10,000 customers lined up to buy one. It operates from the huge former Toyota and General Motors joint venture factory that once turned out Toyota Corollas and Geo Prizms. Drive On will be at the ceremonies and we'll bring you details later.
The Model S luxury sedan could make an impact because it's premium version offers far greater range than in the past: up to 300 miles. Today's electric cars are usually limited to about 100 miles of range. But it won't come cheap. The cheapest Model S will start at $57,400, before a possible $7,500 in federal tax breaks, and run past $100,000 for the longest-range and most lavish versions.
Still, the company based Fremont, Calif., says it has more than 10,000 customers lined up to buy one. It operates from the huge former Toyota and General Motors joint venture factory that once turned out Toyota Corollas and Geo Prizms. Drive On will be at the ceremonies and we'll bring you details later.
#100
Senior Moderator
2012 Tesla Model S
Press release...
Introducing a car so advanced it sets the new standard for premium performance. At the heart of the vehicle is the proven Tesla powertrain, delivering both unprecedented range and a thrilling drive experience.
With a rigid body structure, nearly 50/50 weight distribution and a remarkably low center of gravity, Model S offers the responsiveness and agility expected from world’s best sports cars while providing the ride quality of a sedan.
The 21st Century Powertrain
Tesla’s advanced electric powertrain delivers exhilarating performance. Unlike the internal combustion engine with hundreds of moving pieces that spark, pump, belch, and groan, the Tesla motor has only one moving piece: the rotor. As a result, Model S acceleration is instantaneous, like flipping a switch. Hit the accelerator. In 5.6 seconds, Model S is traveling 60 miles per hour, without hesitation and without a drop of gasoline.
Model S Performance
Model S Performance takes electric performance to the next level. Equipped with the 85 kilowatt-hour battery and a high performance drive inverter, Model S Performance accelerates to 60 miles per hour in 4.4 seconds. If driven the same way as Model S, both cars achieve the same efficiency thanks to the unique powertrain design. Model S Performance features unique exterior accents and an interior replete with Alcantara and carbon fiber accents.
Agility and Grace
The Model S suspension system was developed for the unique architecture of Model S. It works in harmony with the rigid and light Tesla platform to provide precision handling and optimum comfort. Unencumbered by an engine, the lightweight front suspension optimizes wheel control. The rear multi-link suspension is designed to seamlessly integrate with the powertrain.
Active Air Suspension
Much more than a great ride and handling package, the Active Air Suspension combines automatic advantages with on-demand features. As Model S accelerates, it lowers the vehicle for optimized aerodynamics and increased range. Use the touchscreen to raise or lower Model S when traversing thick snow or pulling into steep driveways.
Power Steering
Electronic Power Steering automatically reacts to driving conditions to stay comfortable and responsive at all speeds. The feedback is so precise, you'll feel constantly connected to the road
Go Farther
Model S sets the bar for electric driving range. Model S is offered with three battery options, each delivering unprecedented range. All three batteries are contained within the same enclosure, integrating with the vehicle in the same way, providing structural, aerodynamic, and handling advantages. All three batteries use automotive-grade lithium-ion cells arranged for optimum energy density, thermal management, and safety.
Plug In Anywhere
Model S comes standard with everything you need to plug into the most common 240 volt outlet, standard 120 volt outlets and public stations. With a High Power Wall Connector and Twin Chargers, Model S can be recharged at the rate of 62 miles range per hour. A fifty-percent charge in thirty minutes can be achieved with a Tesla Supercharger.
Ask Tesla owners how long it takes to charge and they'll say just a few moments. Like they do with a cell phone, most Tesla owners plug in at night. By morning, their battery is completely recharged. The Touchscreen can be used to create a customized charging schedule that enables you to charge when electricity rates are lower during off-peak hours.
All Glass Panoramic Roof
With the All Glass Panoramic Roof, Model S is the only sedan capable of delivering a convertible-like drive experience every day. It's more than a sunroof: the entire roof is constructed from lightweight safety glass. With a simple swipe of the Touchscreen, it opens wider than any other sedan's panoramic roof. On even the hottest days, the innovative glass keeps the cabin comfortable.
Built Around the Driver
Model S is a driver’s car. Behind the wheel, you’ll notice that Tesla has combined meticulous noise engineering with Tesla’s uniquely quiet powertrain to obtain the sound dynamics of a recording studio. The gem of the interior is the 17” touchscreen. It puts rich content at your fingertips and provides wi-fi or mobile connectivity.
The Dashboard You Should Expect
The touchscreen, digital instrument cluster, and steering wheel controls seamlessly integrate media, navigation, communications, cabin controls and vehicle data. From the moment you open the door, the high-resolution
Model S touchscreen powers on and returns to its last function. The most commonly used controls line the bottom of the screen for easy access any time. wi-fi or mobile connectivity keep you connected while on the go.
More than a power source
The battery is a rigid, high-performance structure in its own right. But when married to the state-of-the-art body structure, Model S achieves even higher torsional rigidity and a lower center of gravity. The battery itself is designed for safety. Liquid-cooled, the battery maintains consistent temperatures
to prevent cells from overheating. In the event of a crash, the battery structure protects cells from impact and automatically disconnects the power supply. The battery not only protects its contents, but its position augments the overall strength of the passenger cabin.
STRONG, RIGID, AND LIGHT
The Model S body is a state-of-the-art, aluminum-intensive design. Weight-saving benefits make aluminum a natural choice. Extrusions, stampings, and castings are expertly joined for rigidity and strength. A rigid and strong structure not only protects you and your passengers, but also contributes to overall control behind the wheel.
Unhindered by an internal combustion engine, the front of the car is optimized for occupant safety. Perfectly straight double-octagonal rails run along the bottom of the structure and are designed to absorb the energy of impact should one occur. High-strength steel is used in key areas to enhance occupant safety.
With a rigid body structure, nearly 50/50 weight distribution and a remarkably low center of gravity, Model S offers the responsiveness and agility expected from world’s best sports cars while providing the ride quality of a sedan.
The 21st Century Powertrain
Tesla’s advanced electric powertrain delivers exhilarating performance. Unlike the internal combustion engine with hundreds of moving pieces that spark, pump, belch, and groan, the Tesla motor has only one moving piece: the rotor. As a result, Model S acceleration is instantaneous, like flipping a switch. Hit the accelerator. In 5.6 seconds, Model S is traveling 60 miles per hour, without hesitation and without a drop of gasoline.
Model S Performance
Model S Performance takes electric performance to the next level. Equipped with the 85 kilowatt-hour battery and a high performance drive inverter, Model S Performance accelerates to 60 miles per hour in 4.4 seconds. If driven the same way as Model S, both cars achieve the same efficiency thanks to the unique powertrain design. Model S Performance features unique exterior accents and an interior replete with Alcantara and carbon fiber accents.
Agility and Grace
The Model S suspension system was developed for the unique architecture of Model S. It works in harmony with the rigid and light Tesla platform to provide precision handling and optimum comfort. Unencumbered by an engine, the lightweight front suspension optimizes wheel control. The rear multi-link suspension is designed to seamlessly integrate with the powertrain.
Active Air Suspension
Much more than a great ride and handling package, the Active Air Suspension combines automatic advantages with on-demand features. As Model S accelerates, it lowers the vehicle for optimized aerodynamics and increased range. Use the touchscreen to raise or lower Model S when traversing thick snow or pulling into steep driveways.
Power Steering
Electronic Power Steering automatically reacts to driving conditions to stay comfortable and responsive at all speeds. The feedback is so precise, you'll feel constantly connected to the road
Go Farther
Model S sets the bar for electric driving range. Model S is offered with three battery options, each delivering unprecedented range. All three batteries are contained within the same enclosure, integrating with the vehicle in the same way, providing structural, aerodynamic, and handling advantages. All three batteries use automotive-grade lithium-ion cells arranged for optimum energy density, thermal management, and safety.
Plug In Anywhere
Model S comes standard with everything you need to plug into the most common 240 volt outlet, standard 120 volt outlets and public stations. With a High Power Wall Connector and Twin Chargers, Model S can be recharged at the rate of 62 miles range per hour. A fifty-percent charge in thirty minutes can be achieved with a Tesla Supercharger.
Ask Tesla owners how long it takes to charge and they'll say just a few moments. Like they do with a cell phone, most Tesla owners plug in at night. By morning, their battery is completely recharged. The Touchscreen can be used to create a customized charging schedule that enables you to charge when electricity rates are lower during off-peak hours.
All Glass Panoramic Roof
With the All Glass Panoramic Roof, Model S is the only sedan capable of delivering a convertible-like drive experience every day. It's more than a sunroof: the entire roof is constructed from lightweight safety glass. With a simple swipe of the Touchscreen, it opens wider than any other sedan's panoramic roof. On even the hottest days, the innovative glass keeps the cabin comfortable.
Built Around the Driver
Model S is a driver’s car. Behind the wheel, you’ll notice that Tesla has combined meticulous noise engineering with Tesla’s uniquely quiet powertrain to obtain the sound dynamics of a recording studio. The gem of the interior is the 17” touchscreen. It puts rich content at your fingertips and provides wi-fi or mobile connectivity.
The Dashboard You Should Expect
The touchscreen, digital instrument cluster, and steering wheel controls seamlessly integrate media, navigation, communications, cabin controls and vehicle data. From the moment you open the door, the high-resolution
Model S touchscreen powers on and returns to its last function. The most commonly used controls line the bottom of the screen for easy access any time. wi-fi or mobile connectivity keep you connected while on the go.
More than a power source
The battery is a rigid, high-performance structure in its own right. But when married to the state-of-the-art body structure, Model S achieves even higher torsional rigidity and a lower center of gravity. The battery itself is designed for safety. Liquid-cooled, the battery maintains consistent temperatures
to prevent cells from overheating. In the event of a crash, the battery structure protects cells from impact and automatically disconnects the power supply. The battery not only protects its contents, but its position augments the overall strength of the passenger cabin.
STRONG, RIGID, AND LIGHT
The Model S body is a state-of-the-art, aluminum-intensive design. Weight-saving benefits make aluminum a natural choice. Extrusions, stampings, and castings are expertly joined for rigidity and strength. A rigid and strong structure not only protects you and your passengers, but also contributes to overall control behind the wheel.
Unhindered by an internal combustion engine, the front of the car is optimized for occupant safety. Perfectly straight double-octagonal rails run along the bottom of the structure and are designed to absorb the energy of impact should one occur. High-strength steel is used in key areas to enhance occupant safety.
#101
Senior Moderator
#105
Suzuka Master
this car needs to be start rolling out deliveries quickly!! I wanna see it! and of course take pics for you guys!
From what i read on MT.
When you walk up to the car (assuming the keys are in your pocket) the door handles will pop out. And when you sit down the car will be on. Theres no start button with this car.
I'm technology person, only reason i love this car. The amount of tech it packs is awesome. Yea it doesnt have what enthusiasts want, but I wouldnt mind having one in my garage!
From what i read on MT.
When you walk up to the car (assuming the keys are in your pocket) the door handles will pop out. And when you sit down the car will be on. Theres no start button with this car.
I'm technology person, only reason i love this car. The amount of tech it packs is awesome. Yea it doesnt have what enthusiasts want, but I wouldnt mind having one in my garage!
#106
this car needs to be start rolling out deliveries quickly!! I wanna see it! and of course take pics for you guys!
From what i read on MT.
When you walk up to the car (assuming the keys are in your pocket) the door handles will pop out. And when you sit down the car will be on. Theres no start button with this car.
I'm technology person, only reason i love this car. The amount of tech it packs is awesome. Yea it doesnt have what enthusiasts want, but I wouldnt mind having one in my garage!
From what i read on MT.
When you walk up to the car (assuming the keys are in your pocket) the door handles will pop out. And when you sit down the car will be on. Theres no start button with this car.
I'm technology person, only reason i love this car. The amount of tech it packs is awesome. Yea it doesnt have what enthusiasts want, but I wouldnt mind having one in my garage!
Damn I cannot get over that dash though. It actually doesn't look totally bad - up until you get to what should be the focal point of the interior, the dashboard/center stack. Not to mention a touchscreen to control everything is an ergonomically sacrilegious idea.
#107
Suzuka Master
haha yea i'm interested to see how they've handled everything in that touchscreen. I hope its ergonomical.
#108
Suzuka Master
damn i just read that when you approach the car with the plug to charge it, the charge port cover opens. Badass!
#109
Suzuka Master
insideline track test
http://www.insideline.com/tesla/mode...rack-test.html
seems like its going to be a very impressive car! Cant wait!!
http://www.insideline.com/tesla/mode...rack-test.html
seems like its going to be a very impressive car! Cant wait!!
#111
My first Avatar....
It looks nice. But what does it sound like?
$94K
$94K
#112
I'm the Firestarter
#114
My first Avatar....
#115
Suzuka Master
#117
The sizzle in the Steak
Tesla Falls After Cutting Output Forecast
ept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Tesla Motors Inc., the electric-car maker led by Elon Musk, fell the most in eight months after cutting its revenue outlook for the third quarter because of supplier shortcomings and other delays in accelerating production of its Model S sedan.
Tesla slid 9.4 percent to $27.78 at 3:34 p.m. New York time after falling as low as $27.53, the biggest intraday decline since Jan. 13. The company, based in Palo Alto, California, said in a regulatory filing today that it expects $44 million to $46 million in third-quarter sales, compared with the $83.1 million average of 12 analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg.
Chief Executive Officer Musk last week in an interview declined to confirm that the company will deliver 5,000 of its Model S sedans this year. Tesla now expects to deliver 200 to 225 Model S cars in the third quarter and 2,500 to 3,000 in the fourth. Tesla forecast that gross margin will turn positive in the fourth quarter as production accelerates.
“Elon Musk is very concerned about quality,” said Alan Baum, principal of auto-industry forecaster Baum & Associates in West Bloomfield, Michigan. “He’s been driving every vehicle off the line. That’s an indicator of how important that quality issue is to him. He’s going to deal with those quality issues before the vehicles are out the door.”
The company said in its filing that its “main focus is on quality, we have methodically increased our Model S production at a rate slower than we had earlier anticipated. Certain suppliers have experienced delays in meeting our demand and we continue to focus on supplier capabilities and constraints.”
The electric-car maker also said it’s making an all-new car “with new employees using new equipment.” Tesla now forecasts full-year revenue of $400 million to $440 million, down from $560 million to $600 million.
http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloom...#ixzz27WDXdVum
Tesla slid 9.4 percent to $27.78 at 3:34 p.m. New York time after falling as low as $27.53, the biggest intraday decline since Jan. 13. The company, based in Palo Alto, California, said in a regulatory filing today that it expects $44 million to $46 million in third-quarter sales, compared with the $83.1 million average of 12 analyst estimates compiled by Bloomberg.
Chief Executive Officer Musk last week in an interview declined to confirm that the company will deliver 5,000 of its Model S sedans this year. Tesla now expects to deliver 200 to 225 Model S cars in the third quarter and 2,500 to 3,000 in the fourth. Tesla forecast that gross margin will turn positive in the fourth quarter as production accelerates.
“Elon Musk is very concerned about quality,” said Alan Baum, principal of auto-industry forecaster Baum & Associates in West Bloomfield, Michigan. “He’s been driving every vehicle off the line. That’s an indicator of how important that quality issue is to him. He’s going to deal with those quality issues before the vehicles are out the door.”
The company said in its filing that its “main focus is on quality, we have methodically increased our Model S production at a rate slower than we had earlier anticipated. Certain suppliers have experienced delays in meeting our demand and we continue to focus on supplier capabilities and constraints.”
The electric-car maker also said it’s making an all-new car “with new employees using new equipment.” Tesla now forecasts full-year revenue of $400 million to $440 million, down from $560 million to $600 million.
http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloom...#ixzz27WDXdVum
#118
Fahrvergnügen'd
It's a beautiful car. And if it had a V8 or FI 6-cylinder it'd be an alternative to an Audi A6/BMW 5er/MB E-Class/Jag XF/etc
As a hybrid, it's probably not going to sell enough to make money.
Funny thing is that if it wasn't an EV it probably wouldn't have gotten the funding to get made ... But it'd probably be $25-30k cheaper if it was a gas or diesel.
As a hybrid, it's probably not going to sell enough to make money.
Funny thing is that if it wasn't an EV it probably wouldn't have gotten the funding to get made ... But it'd probably be $25-30k cheaper if it was a gas or diesel.
#119
Race Director
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ign/70001115/1
There was a gasp last night when CEO Elon Musk revealed the glowing roadside icons to lure motorists into Tesla Motors' new "supercharger" stations, and it didn't sound like it was just for the electrical device's current-conducting attributes. Rather, the shocking feature was its shape.
Sure, the tapered tower looks a little like a stylized 1950s science-fiction rocket ship. That would make sense, given that Musk's other company, located right next to his design studio in Hawthorne, Calif., is rocket maker Space X. But it also looks a lot like an unabashed symbol of masculinity, not what you might expect as a sign for a place to plug in your electric car. Then again, maybe you would.
The symbolism is important. If Tesla's plans pan out, the tower will stand next to major highways around the country, beckoning Tesla Model S owners to come in for quick charge up. They would become part of roadside America, like fast-food stands or billboards for meteorite shops.
Asked flat-out if the choice was meant as phallic, Musk, who has something of a playboy image, deferred. "We were just trying to make it look like a cool futuristic thing," he told reporters.
The symbolism wasn't lost on Tesla's own staff. If you think the latest statue is a bit outrageous, you should have seen the original. The last concept was tossed only three days before its unveiling. Why? Concerns were raised about the shape, explained Vice President George Blankenship, by "a bunch of women."
Musk, says Blankenship, considers the icon to be "masculine" and "powerful," but he doesn't think the electric-car maker's leader read any more into it than that.
Sure, the tapered tower looks a little like a stylized 1950s science-fiction rocket ship. That would make sense, given that Musk's other company, located right next to his design studio in Hawthorne, Calif., is rocket maker Space X. But it also looks a lot like an unabashed symbol of masculinity, not what you might expect as a sign for a place to plug in your electric car. Then again, maybe you would.
The symbolism is important. If Tesla's plans pan out, the tower will stand next to major highways around the country, beckoning Tesla Model S owners to come in for quick charge up. They would become part of roadside America, like fast-food stands or billboards for meteorite shops.
Asked flat-out if the choice was meant as phallic, Musk, who has something of a playboy image, deferred. "We were just trying to make it look like a cool futuristic thing," he told reporters.
The symbolism wasn't lost on Tesla's own staff. If you think the latest statue is a bit outrageous, you should have seen the original. The last concept was tossed only three days before its unveiling. Why? Concerns were raised about the shape, explained Vice President George Blankenship, by "a bunch of women."
Musk, says Blankenship, considers the icon to be "masculine" and "powerful," but he doesn't think the electric-car maker's leader read any more into it than that.