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Old 03-17-2014, 05:14 PM
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I'm sorry to say it, but the more I see it, I think Lexus will produce my next car rather then Acura or BMW..

New M3 is too soft IMO.
And Acura needs to get of their Ass and make a performance division.
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Originally Posted by VR1
I'm sorry to say it, but the more I see it, I think Lexus will produce my next car rather then Acura or BMW..

New M3 is too soft IMO.
And Acura needs to get of their Ass and make a performance division.
Acura will make its performance division when you turn 32 yr old.

Go with other brands. So many great cars are on the market.
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I don't think pricing is in the guide I put up, but RC350 should be 44-45k, and RSF around 70k according to dealers. Of course Lexus corp. could change pricing but it will be close to those figures.
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It'll probably be similar to IS350/IS-F pricing.
Old 03-17-2014, 05:23 PM
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Acura will make its performance division when you turn 32 yr old.

Go with other brands. So many great cars are on the market.


I think I will since there will most likely not be a Type S TLX, and I don't see myself buying a RS7 anytime soon. New M3 is meh, this looks better then the RS5 to me.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by VR1
I'm sorry to say it, but the more I see it, I think Lexus will produce my next car rather then Acura or BMW..

New M3 is too soft IMO.
And Acura needs to get of their Ass and make a performance division.
Just go with the M4 (the 4 Series all-around is sharper than the 3 Series).
Old 03-18-2014, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by YEH
Just go with the M4 (the 4 Series all-around is sharper than the 3 Series).
I'm still pissed BMW ditched that amazing S65 engine for the TTV6.. I prefer the E90 M3 to the F30 M3. RCF has a V8, and I heard the C63 will have a biturbo V8. Even though the F30 M3/M4 will have more torque, I prefer the RCF's powerplant.
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From a practicality standpoint the RC-F will be a better long term ownership experience too. ColtCCHockeyCC's IS-F has like 90K miles on it with few issues.

I love the Mercedes C63 coupe and RS5 for different reasons. But if it's my $75K, I just don't know if I could ignore the Lexus' reliability value.
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Originally Posted by VR1
I'm still pissed BMW ditched that amazing S65 engine for the TTV6.. I prefer the E90 M3 to the F30 M3. RCF has a V8, and I heard the C63 will have a biturbo V8. Even though the F30 M3/M4 will have more torque, I prefer the RCF's powerplant.
Unfortunately, that's the way things are going (think the next gen RCF will ditch the V8 as well).

There's nothing like NA power and it's more reliable as well.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
From a practicality standpoint the RC-F will be a better long term ownership experience too. ColtCCHockeyCC's IS-F has like 90K miles on it with few issues.

I love the Mercedes C63 coupe and RS5 for different reasons. But if it's my $75K, I just don't know if I could ignore the Lexus' reliability value.
All I want is a trim piece to separate the grill.

Although, I hear the C63 and E9X M3 6MT are reliable as well. Next generation.. probably not.
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Originally Posted by VR1
I don't think pricing is in the guide I put up, but RC350 should be 44-45k, and RSF around 70k according to dealers. Of course Lexus corp. could change pricing but it will be close to those figures.
Nobody knows the pricing estimates because it's subject to change along with the final production features (according to an e-mail from our US corp. division). Not even dealers have, or will have, final figures soon.

Model range goes on sale in the fall.
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Nobody knows the pricing estimates because it's subject to change along with the final production features (according to an e-mail from our US corp. division). Not even dealers have, or will have, final figures soon.

Model range goes on sale in the fall.
I was told by someone higher up at the dealer I know that pricing has been released to dealers. I can PM you which dealer told me this if you would like.
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Originally Posted by VR1
I don't think pricing is in the guide I put up, but RC350 should be 44-45k, and RSF around 70k according to dealers. Of course Lexus corp. could change pricing but it will be close to those figures.
If this is true I can't wait till the RC-F starts hitting the CPO market after leases.
Old 03-19-2014, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VR1
I was told by someone higher up at the dealer I know that pricing has been released to dealers. I can PM you which dealer told me this if you would like.
What defines higher up? My sales managers forwarded us the e-mail from corporate that stated there was no pricing to be released because it's subject to change.

There's estimates being passed around, but nothing official.
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VR1,

Just post it here, so we can see how accurate it is!
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This is the latest timeline Lexus has posted. When the new one becomes available we will share.

I know there is a lot of buzz regarding the RC, RC-F, and the NX. Both are scheduled for late 4th quarter (November tentatively).

Regarding the RC and RC-F: Everything regarding final builds and pricing WILL change! Everything to this point is still in process. Lexus is taking a proactive stance with this launch and will keep us informed as we get close to the official date and production starts.
I can not post the timeline, but this is the latest info we've received.
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VR1,

Just post it here, so we can see how accurate it is!
Lexus of P******* P****

Don't want to get the person in trouble, if they weren't supposed to tell.


The person I talked to wasn't a GM. I was told by him that Lexus Corp. released pricing to dealers. That may/may not be accurate, that's just what I was told.
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Originally Posted by VR1
Lexus of P******* P****

Don't want to get the person in trouble, if they weren't supposed to tell.


The person I talked to wasn't a GM. I was told by him that Lexus Corp. released pricing to dealers. That may/may not be accurate, that's just what I was told.
Lexus of Pew Pew?

Just post the price that he told you about!
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Pew Pew, close, you're getting there.

I already posted the price I was told, 44k for RC350 and 70k for RCF. Whether or not this is accurate I have no idea, just what I was told.
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I'd take it with a grain of salt. We have salesmen that have told clients they will be able to pre order soon when that's far down the road.

Those prices are right around what we've been estimating, but again, Lexus hasn't actually confirmed them.

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The pre-order guide has been released. You can get an LSD on the high trim 350 and torque vectoring (not sure if brake or diff) on the F.
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These will all come with automatic only, huh?
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Originally Posted by MTEAZY
The pre-order guide has been released. You can get an LSD on the high trim 350 and torque vectoring (not sure if brake or diff) on the F.
I think I posted it in post #117
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These will all come with automatic only, huh?
Lexus killed off the manuals with the older IS250, so yes. 8 speed with the RC 350, F-Sport, & RC-F. CVT with the 300h.
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Yeah but that's the trend everyone is going towards as manual production costs aren't being justified.

On the topic, spoke to a manager asking if there was any update since that email & us receiving the pre order guides ($1-2,000 deposit for the 350); $45K for the 350, $65K for the RC F minus all options & what not. The 300h is coming later.
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Time to accept it, kids. The manuals are dwindling....their numbers are falling all the time.

Lack of demand, cost, and lack of performance are driving them to extinction.

Car makers are sold on 7-10 speed AT units, and Dual Clutch units.
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Yep.

I know.

Sad.
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I could deal with a SMG but I'm not going to accept Lexus's 3.5L and only 306hp when every competitor is 30-50hp more now.
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For me, I don't mind too much on the numbers. And that engine isn't slow. It's pretty fast.

It just needs some peppyness for it and aggressive gearing. I care a lot about how the car drives. The driving feel is much more important for me.

Hope this RC models are more sportier than IS models.
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There have been a few articles regarding manual take rate as of late. In 2012 it doubled the previous years (something like 7% vs. 3.5%) but still quite the difference.

For the BRZ, take rate is about 70%. So it largely depends on the vehicle. On a car like the BRZ, I can't ever see automatics being more popular. But on a car like a Corvette, or especially a luxury sedan/coupe, I wouldn't be surprised if overall take rate was lower or nearly non-existent.
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Yep. Higher the pricing gets, less the take rate on manual transmission. Sad stuff, but it's the reality.
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Playing devil's advocate, I have always understood that for a long time that dual clutch transmissions are superior as far as performance goes. Computer-controlled transmissions will get better gas mileage and smoothness/NVH. I completely understand why someone would want one, it's just convenient.

But count me out. I don't care if its slower, worse on gas, even if it's more expensive. Give me that third pedal.
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I care a lot about how the car drives. The driving feel is much more important for me.
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I could deal with a SMG but I'm not going to accept Lexus's 3.5L and only 306hp when every competitor is 30-50hp more now.
Except for Acura
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Except for Acura
And Cadillac.. and Infinity.. and basically everyone who isn't German.
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Originally Posted by MTEAZY
And Cadillac.. and Infinity.. and basically everyone who isn't German.
Except Cadillac and Infiniti both offer V8s. And Caddy has a 420 hp twin-turbo V6.

Oh wait, Infiniti is putting the GT-R engine in the Q50 too.

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