Honda: CR-V News
07-11-2011, 05:08 PM
#321
A Honda diesel in the US? 
07-11-2011, 06:45 PM
#322
Team Owner
07-11-2011, 06:54 PM
#323
07-11-2011, 07:14 PM
#324
Race Director
Not only have recent FMCs been only marginally different from previous gen designs, the drivetrains have had even less updates. There's no suggestion anywhere that anything other than the 2.4l gasser will be the engine in this. Heck, Honda may even soldier on with the 5AT. This design is from the time of when the auto industry (along with the economy at large) was in free fall in late 08 and early 09 - that was not the time to take big risks or innovations.
07-11-2011, 07:30 PM
#325
I feel the need...
07-12-2011, 09:09 AM
#327
Senior Moderator
Honda deserves a lot of rope with this CR-V. We can bitch about no V6, carry over 2.4 etc... but they hit it out of the park with the current gen so lets see what they come up with this time. Although it would be a disappointment to see a carry over power train, not because its inadequate, but because I'd love to see some progress and new tech in the engine department at Honda.
07-12-2011, 11:27 AM
#328
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I think we will see improved mpg through the use of friction reducing technologies, improved aerodynamics, and probably a lighter curb weight.
On top of that, Honda might lift bottom to mid range torque a bit (without showing any difference on paper - same peak torque at same rpm).
End result? May be 5 more hp, 3+mpg for city and hwy, 50lb lighter, and 0.5s faster from 0-60mph.
On top of that, Honda might lift bottom to mid range torque a bit (without showing any difference on paper - same peak torque at same rpm).
End result? May be 5 more hp, 3+mpg for city and hwy, 50lb lighter, and 0.5s faster from 0-60mph.
07-12-2011, 02:34 PM
#329
Team Owner
Honda deserves a lot of rope with this CR-V. We can bitch about no V6, carry over 2.4 etc... but they hit it out of the park with the current gen so lets see what they come up with this time. Although it would be a disappointment to see a carry over power train, not because its inadequate, but because I'd love to see some progress and new tech in the engine department at Honda.
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
07-12-2011, 03:24 PM
#330
AZ Community Team
The 3G CRV LX (current gen) always had painted bumpers and fenders. The 1G and 2G had non-painted.
In terms of selling because it's a Honda, if that was the case Ridgelines would be selling like hotcakes. Bottom line the CRV is a extremely versicle small SUV. I know a bunch of folks who own 2G and mostly 3G. It simply does everything very well and is quite dependable. Honda sells lots of them for the same reason Lexus sells RX350's and BMW sell 3-series, they are the best vehicle in their respective classes.
But I still can't figure out why people still buy Chrysler mini-vans even if they are cheaper?
In terms of selling because it's a Honda, if that was the case Ridgelines would be selling like hotcakes. Bottom line the CRV is a extremely versicle small SUV. I know a bunch of folks who own 2G and mostly 3G. It simply does everything very well and is quite dependable. Honda sells lots of them for the same reason Lexus sells RX350's and BMW sell 3-series, they are the best vehicle in their respective classes.
But I still can't figure out why people still buy Chrysler mini-vans even if they are cheaper?
people buy CR-V cuz it is a Honda. if the same CR-V was sold under another brand except for Toyota. No one would even care about that thing.
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
07-13-2011, 10:39 AM
#331
Senior Moderator
people buy CR-V cuz it is a Honda. if the same CR-V was sold under another brand except for Toyota. No one would even care about that thing.
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
CX-7 is terrible on gas and cramped inside. Not sure how its better than a CR-V outside of performance.
07-13-2011, 04:51 PM
#332
Team Owner
While I'm sure some sales come based on the Honda name alone, like Legend said, Honda would never have a sales failure if that was the case yet we have the Ridgeline, Element, Crossturd, CR-Z, Insight and Acura. Name can only so so far, the product has to be good. And the CR-V is IMO an excellent product.
CX-7 is terrible on gas and cramped inside. Not sure how its better than a CR-V outside of performance.
CX-7 is terrible on gas and cramped inside. Not sure how its better than a CR-V outside of performance.
and let me go find a picture of current gen CRV without painted bumper and fender. I have seen a lot of them.
07-13-2011, 04:56 PM
#333
Team Owner
ok i am 50% wrong. They are half-painted, which looks unpainted to me depends on color.
07-13-2011, 05:00 PM
#334
Team Owner
The 3G CRV LX (current gen) always had painted bumpers and fenders. The 1G and 2G had non-painted.
In terms of selling because it's a Honda, if that was the case Ridgelines would be selling like hotcakes. Bottom line the CRV is a extremely versicle small SUV. I know a bunch of folks who own 2G and mostly 3G. It simply does everything very well and is quite dependable. Honda sells lots of them for the same reason Lexus sells RX350's and BMW sell 3-series, they are the best vehicle in their respective classes.
But I still can't figure out why people still buy Chrysler mini-vans even if they are cheaper?
In terms of selling because it's a Honda, if that was the case Ridgelines would be selling like hotcakes. Bottom line the CRV is a extremely versicle small SUV. I know a bunch of folks who own 2G and mostly 3G. It simply does everything very well and is quite dependable. Honda sells lots of them for the same reason Lexus sells RX350's and BMW sell 3-series, they are the best vehicle in their respective classes.
But I still can't figure out why people still buy Chrysler mini-vans even if they are cheaper?
I know a lot of ppl who has 3G as well. it is just typical honda, which is fine but that thing is just so ugly!
Never said it is a "bad" car but the front is just so..... weird
Last edited by oonowindoo; 07-13-2011 at 05:04 PM.
07-14-2011, 06:03 AM
#336
AZ Community Team
Ridgeline is a truck. if Tundra can't even touch F-150 you think a little V6 ridgeline could?
I know a lot of ppl who has 3G as well. it is just typical honda, which is fine but that thing is just so ugly!
Never said it is a "bad" car but the front is just so..... weird
I know a lot of ppl who has 3G as well. it is just typical honda, which is fine but that thing is just so ugly!
Never said it is a "bad" car but the front is just so..... weird
Ridgeline sold ~20K units in 2010, the Tundra was almost 100K. It's not even close, I seriously doubt if Honda folks thought there target sales numbers were the F150, but I bet a paycheck they were significantly more than 20K units a year. When Honda introduced the 2G Oddy in 1999 their sales target was 120K, they met that easily since it was a great product and a Honda. Over time that sales number rose to 240K.
In terms of looks, it's just one's opinion. To me the CRV is OK, not great but acceptable. I've never heard anyone complain about it's looks, the 4G TL on the other hand I've heard plenty of complaints.
Oddly enought you didn't include the biggest complaint I hear from 3G CRV owners, rear quarter visibility. The fat C pillars block alot of the view.
07-14-2011, 06:13 AM
#337
Race Director
07-14-2011, 09:46 AM
#338
people buy CR-V cuz it is a Honda. if the same CR-V was sold under another brand except for Toyota. No one would even care about that thing.
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
I thought it was the ugliest SUV when the current gen first came up, especially in LX trim with un-painted fender and bumper.
CX-7 is a much better car inside out but it is not a HOnda so it wont sell any many.
let's see how long Honda can live off its past fame...
LOL, thanks for the laugh this morning.
07-18-2011, 11:51 AM
#339
with that said, I think the 4G will have C pillars that curve slightly upwards like that of the Lexus RX, so visibility may actually go down.
And i don't think there's a 3rd row, it looks to be the same amount of length after the rear axle. I think the less sloped tailgate effectively increases interior cargo room, but the result is that it looks Volvo'sh who obviously thought of it first.
07-18-2011, 05:04 PM
#341
Pro
Mazda CX-7 is one ugly vehicle. Actually most of the current Mazdas look terrible.
The current CR-V is excellent. Hopefully the next round won't bring the Civic interior treatment.
The current CR-V is excellent. Hopefully the next round won't bring the Civic interior treatment.
07-18-2011, 07:10 PM
#342
^ that's what i'm afraid of too. the current CR-V prob is the best Honda interior, I love the textured plastics used throughout. that's even with the refresh when they removed the ambient light and got rid of some of the chrome bits inside.
07-19-2011, 06:15 AM
#343
Race Director
07-19-2011, 12:04 PM
#344
The sizzle in the Steak
Time to stop resting on their laurels.
07-19-2011, 06:42 PM
#345
I feel the need...
Who buys a CRV to tow???
07-20-2011, 06:16 AM
#346
Race Director
^ Maybe the test involved so much test gear and luggage that it didn't fit in the two test mules and they needed a trailer - it is a bit unusual to see a prototype being tested pulling a trailer. Come to think of it, there was a recent article on how all the makers are going to submit to a new standardized towing spec (everyones' towing spec is made up by the maker and it is not an apples-apples comparison between brands).
Last edited by biker; 07-20-2011 at 06:18 AM.
07-20-2011, 10:35 AM
#347
The sizzle in the Steak
FWD 4 cyl to tow?!?!...
Nobody tows with a CRV...it's not what you buy them for.
Nobody tows with a CRV...it's not what you buy them for.
07-22-2011, 01:22 PM
#349
Actually, on the rest of the planet where people don't think they need a heavy duty full-sized truck with a diesel engine just to tow, they do use vehicles like the CR-V for tow. And something like the CR-V makes a decent vehicle for towing.
07-22-2011, 02:00 PM
#350
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Tow what exactly? Perhaps a very small aluminum fishing boat at best.
Tow what exactly? Perhaps a very small aluminum fishing boat at best.
07-22-2011, 02:28 PM
#351
07-22-2011, 03:41 PM
#352
The sizzle in the Steak
This is not europe.
Most peeps here do not tow a small 1,500-2,000lb light-weight trailer.
You are kidding yourself.
Most peeps here do not tow a small 1,500-2,000lb light-weight trailer.
You are kidding yourself.
07-22-2011, 03:53 PM
#353
AZ Community Team
^ most trailers I see fall into the 1/2-1 ton trailer category. Mostly used for lawn care businesses. I only know couple people whose trailer are more than 2000 lb (one a boat the other a 66 Shelby Mustang).
On the small SUV trailer support, I've seen some mostly when camping. Not the norm, but not rare either.
On the small SUV trailer support, I've seen some mostly when camping. Not the norm, but not rare either.
Last edited by Legend2TL; 07-22-2011 at 03:55 PM.
07-22-2011, 04:12 PM
#354
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ A CRV sized vehicle in the U.S. is like a diamond in the rough at an RV campground.
07-22-2011, 05:38 PM
#355
I think the new CR-V has the potential to look pretty good; the side/greenhouse is already a big improvement over the current one.
Kinda puzzling how Honda can up the ante on the design of the new CR-V and yet not do much w/ the new Civic.
Kinda puzzling how Honda can up the ante on the design of the new CR-V and yet not do much w/ the new Civic.
07-22-2011, 08:05 PM
#356
07-22-2011, 08:28 PM
#357
אני עומד עם ישראל
This is why automakers design vehicles with certain markets in mind. Europe and NA are completely different.
07-22-2011, 10:18 PM
#359
AZ Community Team
07-22-2011, 11:33 PM
#360
Senior Moderator
Backtracking to the CX-7 reference, it was designed to compete directly with the Nissan Murano....not the CR-V.
As for *, it's a better looking car than the current model and while I personally think Honda should at least offer a V6 variant, it's clearly not necessary in the CR-V's segment.
As for *, it's a better looking car than the current model and while I personally think Honda should at least offer a V6 variant, it's clearly not necessary in the CR-V's segment.