Ferrari: GTC4Lusso News
#82
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They had one of these at the Father's Day car show in Beverly Hills today...sadly, I didnt know about the show until after the fact.
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#86
Hm. It certainly isn't a feast for the eyes. But then again I hated the 458 Italia when I first saw it, nitpicked many of it's little details, but at the moment I really like it (458)
The FF's interior is beyond pimp though. wow
The FF's interior is beyond pimp though. wow
#88
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I think it looks way better than the Panamera... that car is NOT growing on me... it looks bulbous every time I see one.. it may even be getting worse...
#89
I thought the Panamera was growing on me as I pulled up beside a black Turbo at a red light. Then it pulled away and I caught a glimpse of it's beached whale-like ass, reminding me of what I really thought about it
The weird thing is, I think I have a bigger problem with the FF's front end rather than the back portion
The weird thing is, I think I have a bigger problem with the FF's front end rather than the back portion
#90
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I kinda shake my head when I see a Panamera, thinking, "what a company Porsche used to be...."
edit: BUT I still like Porsche, just because they haven't stopped making the crazy good sports cars.
edit: BUT I still like Porsche, just because they haven't stopped making the crazy good sports cars.
#91
I still like Porsche as well. They're just trying to get a bigger slice of the pie.... blame the shareholders
I think the Panamera looks good and they've needed a sedan (for the direction that they wanna go in). I just feel like they majorly screwed up the rear
I think the Panamera looks good and they've needed a sedan (for the direction that they wanna go in). I just feel like they majorly screwed up the rear
#92
Suzuka Master
I thought the 458 was ugly, after seeing it in person a couple times, i think it looks great.
This FF has already been growing on me and I like it quite a bit.
As for the panamera argument, the panamera looks good from all angles that dont show the back. Still not better looking than the FF though.
#94
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#95
The sizzle in the Steak
#96
old school
It's a true Ferrari all right...
http://jalopnik.com/5856379/300000-f...ing-test-drive
$300,000 Ferrari FF catches fire during test drive
There's been some debate as to whether the three-door, AWD Ferrari FF hatchback was a proper Ferrari. The debate is over. One of the $300,000 cars caught fire and burned to the ground during a test drive. Yup, it's definitely a real Ferrari! UPDATE!
A 44-year-old was out test-driving the new FF in Frankfurt, Germany when he heard a bang and noticed flames coming from the tail in his rear view mirror. So, since the FF has its monster V12 engine up front, maybe it's an exhaust issue?
The test driver bailed, unharmed, as the car burned to the ground. Self-immolation is the best indicator of a true Ferrari product so we're not surprised. We also will not be surprised when Ferrari denies this ever happened and blames the drivers before inevitably recalling all the models.
The burnination of a pristine Ferrari FF went first reported in early October (translated), but we somehow missed the story and accompanying video.
But now, after watching it, let's just say — if you love Ferraris, we don't recommend watching the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_H1s...layer_embedded
http://jalopnik.com/5856379/300000-f...ing-test-drive
$300,000 Ferrari FF catches fire during test drive
There's been some debate as to whether the three-door, AWD Ferrari FF hatchback was a proper Ferrari. The debate is over. One of the $300,000 cars caught fire and burned to the ground during a test drive. Yup, it's definitely a real Ferrari! UPDATE!
A 44-year-old was out test-driving the new FF in Frankfurt, Germany when he heard a bang and noticed flames coming from the tail in his rear view mirror. So, since the FF has its monster V12 engine up front, maybe it's an exhaust issue?
The test driver bailed, unharmed, as the car burned to the ground. Self-immolation is the best indicator of a true Ferrari product so we're not surprised. We also will not be surprised when Ferrari denies this ever happened and blames the drivers before inevitably recalling all the models.
The burnination of a pristine Ferrari FF went first reported in early October (translated), but we somehow missed the story and accompanying video.
But now, after watching it, let's just say — if you love Ferraris, we don't recommend watching the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_H1s...layer_embedded
#97
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Coupe Version in Development?
Here: http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-coupe-feature
WHAT IT IS
A more conventionally styled version of the clown-shoe-shaped FF. It will get a sloping roofline and lose its rear seat, and the front fascia and side air vents will change slightly. Traditional notions of beauty will thus be satisfied.
WHY IT MATTERS
The FF has put off customers who liked the classic proportions of previous executive Ferraris. It is easy enough for Team Maranello to rebody the car, and we expect both models to be sold concurrently.
PLATFORM
The FF coupe is just a restyled FF, so it will share everything with the current Cavallino Country Squire, from the engine to the trick four-wheel-drive system.
POWERTRAIN
This coupe should get the same naturally aspirated, 651-hp, 6.3-liter V-12 powering the current FF.
COMPETITION
Aston Martin Vanquish, Bentley Continental GT, Rolls-Royce Wraith, Barry Manilow for an evening’s worth of entertainment.
WHAT MIGHT GO WRONG
The car already exists as the Ferrari F12berlinetta, and Luca di Montezemolo’s golfing buddies, for whom the FF was built, form a small customer base that likes having rear seats for grandchildren dressed in Ermenegildo Zegna onesies.
ESTIMATED ARRIVAL AND PRICE
Late 2014 or early 2015, starting on the ugly side of $300,000.
A more conventionally styled version of the clown-shoe-shaped FF. It will get a sloping roofline and lose its rear seat, and the front fascia and side air vents will change slightly. Traditional notions of beauty will thus be satisfied.
WHY IT MATTERS
The FF has put off customers who liked the classic proportions of previous executive Ferraris. It is easy enough for Team Maranello to rebody the car, and we expect both models to be sold concurrently.
PLATFORM
The FF coupe is just a restyled FF, so it will share everything with the current Cavallino Country Squire, from the engine to the trick four-wheel-drive system.
POWERTRAIN
This coupe should get the same naturally aspirated, 651-hp, 6.3-liter V-12 powering the current FF.
COMPETITION
Aston Martin Vanquish, Bentley Continental GT, Rolls-Royce Wraith, Barry Manilow for an evening’s worth of entertainment.
WHAT MIGHT GO WRONG
The car already exists as the Ferrari F12berlinetta, and Luca di Montezemolo’s golfing buddies, for whom the FF was built, form a small customer base that likes having rear seats for grandchildren dressed in Ermenegildo Zegna onesies.
ESTIMATED ARRIVAL AND PRICE
Late 2014 or early 2015, starting on the ugly side of $300,000.
#98
The sizzle in the Steak
Trying to turn lemons into lemonade.
#100
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ It just does not look the Ferrari part.
#102
Engineer
I've seen one in person and was pleasantly surprised.
#103
The sizzle in the Steak
I've seen it in person as well....meh.
#104
I wonder if it's a legit model (nobody has hinted it from Ferrari) or a mistake for that 1 off being built for a customer.
#105
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Updated Ferrari FF with base V8 coming in 2016
From here: http://www.leftlanenews.com/ferrari-ff-2016.html
Ferrari's odd-ball FF supercar is set to undergo a major revision for the 2016 model year, a new report finds.
Introduced in 2011, the FF is scheduled to receive a mid-cycle update for 2016. The four-wheel drive hatchback will receive significant updates in both the styling and drivetrain departments.
According to Car, the FF will under some pretty serious plastic surgery, with everything above the car's belt line set to switch from aluminum to composite construction. That decision should help trim a few pounds from the FF's waistline but, more important, lower the car's overall center of gravity for better handling.
A new active-aero system should also help with the FF's cornering prowess.
Front-end styling isn't expected to change too much, but the 2016 FF will arrive with a faster-sloping rear roofline. Ferrari is aiming to give the FF a more premium-looking stance.
Ferrari will also spruce up the FF's interior, including a new infotainment system with Apple's CarPlay.
The biggest change to the FF will be the addition of a new entry-level twin-turbo V8. Believed to be based on the 3.9L used in the California T, the V8-powered FF should be good for between 560-600 horsepower.
In order to clear room for the new V8, Ferrari will reportedly boost the power of the FF's soon-to-be-optional 6.3L naturally-aspirated V12 from 651-horsepower to 700-horsepower.
All-wheel drive will continue to be an FF hallmark, but the two-door will swap out its seven-speed dual clutch transmission for an eight-speed unit that promises better performance and economy.
Look for the updated 2016 Ferrari FF to bow in about a year or so.
Introduced in 2011, the FF is scheduled to receive a mid-cycle update for 2016. The four-wheel drive hatchback will receive significant updates in both the styling and drivetrain departments.
According to Car, the FF will under some pretty serious plastic surgery, with everything above the car's belt line set to switch from aluminum to composite construction. That decision should help trim a few pounds from the FF's waistline but, more important, lower the car's overall center of gravity for better handling.
A new active-aero system should also help with the FF's cornering prowess.
Front-end styling isn't expected to change too much, but the 2016 FF will arrive with a faster-sloping rear roofline. Ferrari is aiming to give the FF a more premium-looking stance.
Ferrari will also spruce up the FF's interior, including a new infotainment system with Apple's CarPlay.
The biggest change to the FF will be the addition of a new entry-level twin-turbo V8. Believed to be based on the 3.9L used in the California T, the V8-powered FF should be good for between 560-600 horsepower.
In order to clear room for the new V8, Ferrari will reportedly boost the power of the FF's soon-to-be-optional 6.3L naturally-aspirated V12 from 651-horsepower to 700-horsepower.
All-wheel drive will continue to be an FF hallmark, but the two-door will swap out its seven-speed dual clutch transmission for an eight-speed unit that promises better performance and economy.
Look for the updated 2016 Ferrari FF to bow in about a year or so.
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The rear end/hatch still looks like an afterthought.
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New version caught on video testing...
Details:
Source: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ff-m-spy-video
Details:
In Fiat Chrysler Automobiles’ [NYSE:FCAU] five-year strategy announcement for Ferrari, it was revealed that the Italian maker of some of the finest supercars on the planet planned to give its cars a lifespan of about eight years, with a significant update—Modificato in Ferrari-speak—after the first four years.
We saw this first with the transition of the California to the latest California T in 2014, and later this year we’ll see the 458 Italia receive its update. With the FF originally going on sale as a 2012 model, an updated version of the four-wheel-drive grand tourer is due in the next year or two, and it appears we now have our first look at a prototype for the updated car.
A video uploaded to YouTube by supercar spotter Marchettino shows engineers testing a version of the FF at the Fiorano test track with a makeshift exhaust system. According to onlookers, the sound the car made was much louder than normal, which together with the makeshift exhaust suggests that a more potent version of the FF’s 6.3-liter V-12 is being developed or perhaps a new engine altogether.
According to a previous report, the updated FF will maintain a naturally aspirated V-12 but have an output close to 700 horsepower instead of the current 651-hp rating. The car will also maintain its 4RM all-wheel-drive system albeit with revisions to enhance performance.
A new V-8 option is said to be in the hopper, to increase the car’s appeal, though the move would be strange given Ferrari’s preference for only a single engine for its respective models. Instead, we may see the V-8 reserved for a more coupe-like FF variant that may also be in the works.
The final mechanical update is said to be a new eight-speed transmission instead of the FF’s existing seven-speed dual-clutch unit. The extra gear will allow a tall overdrive in top gear to reduce fuel consumption and help Ferrari reach its emissions targets.
As for the styling, this is likely to feature only evolutionary updates, like those we saw in the California’s transition to the California T. Interestingly, the previous report also stated that we may see some carbon fiber and other composite materials employed above the waistline to help lower the car’s center of gravity.
Look for a debut of the updated Ferrari FF late this year or in early 2016.
We saw this first with the transition of the California to the latest California T in 2014, and later this year we’ll see the 458 Italia receive its update. With the FF originally going on sale as a 2012 model, an updated version of the four-wheel-drive grand tourer is due in the next year or two, and it appears we now have our first look at a prototype for the updated car.
A video uploaded to YouTube by supercar spotter Marchettino shows engineers testing a version of the FF at the Fiorano test track with a makeshift exhaust system. According to onlookers, the sound the car made was much louder than normal, which together with the makeshift exhaust suggests that a more potent version of the FF’s 6.3-liter V-12 is being developed or perhaps a new engine altogether.
According to a previous report, the updated FF will maintain a naturally aspirated V-12 but have an output close to 700 horsepower instead of the current 651-hp rating. The car will also maintain its 4RM all-wheel-drive system albeit with revisions to enhance performance.
A new V-8 option is said to be in the hopper, to increase the car’s appeal, though the move would be strange given Ferrari’s preference for only a single engine for its respective models. Instead, we may see the V-8 reserved for a more coupe-like FF variant that may also be in the works.
The final mechanical update is said to be a new eight-speed transmission instead of the FF’s existing seven-speed dual-clutch unit. The extra gear will allow a tall overdrive in top gear to reduce fuel consumption and help Ferrari reach its emissions targets.
As for the styling, this is likely to feature only evolutionary updates, like those we saw in the California’s transition to the California T. Interestingly, the previous report also stated that we may see some carbon fiber and other composite materials employed above the waistline to help lower the car’s center of gravity.
Look for a debut of the updated Ferrari FF late this year or in early 2016.
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Customized...a la Bianco Tartan color, Nero Daytona Matt painted rims...
Ferrari FF mosaic: versatility re-invented
Ferrari FF mosaic: versatility re-invented
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2016 Ferrari GTC4Lusso
Press release...
The Ferrari GTC4Lusso debuts at the Geneva Show: class-leading performance, versatility in all driving conditions, sublime elegance.
A unique car, a whole new world
Maranello, 8 February 2016 – Ferrari announces the addition to its range of the Ferrari GTC4Lusso, the new four-seater which hails a major evolution of the sporting Grand Tourer concept by integrating rear-wheel steering with four-wheel drive for the first time.
This is a car designed for clients wanting to experience the pleasure of driving a Ferrari anywhere, anytime, be it on short spins or long journeys, snowy mountain roads or city streets, alone or in the company of three lucky passengers. Drivers who demand exceptional power but refuse to compromise on in-car comfort, sporty elegance and impeccable detailing. In short, the GTC4Lusso brings unprecedented versatility to Ferrari driving, like the FF before it which won the Prancing Horse a new, younger client base that, significantly, also makes greater use of its cars, clocking up 30% higher mileage than average.
The GTC4Lusso’s name references illustrious predecessors, such as the 330 GTC or its 2+2 sister model, the 330 GT - one of Enzo Ferrari’s favourites - and the 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso, which represented a sublime combination of elegance and high performance. The number 4 alludes to the car’s four comfortable seats.
Engine
The GTC4Lusso’s 12-cylinder engine delivers smooth, consistent power, punching out a massive 690 cv at 8,000 rpm. Both its 2.6 kg/cv weight-to-power ratio and its 13.5:1 compression ratio set new records for the category. Maximum torque is 697 Nm at 5,750 rpm with 80% already available at just 1,750 rpm for superb responsiveness even at low revs. The soundtrack brilliantly reflects the car’s multifaceted personality: it is rich and powerful in performance driving and discreet yet harmonious in the city.
Dynamics
The Ferrari GTC4Lusso is an exceptionally versatile car in every kind of grip condition thanks to the Ferrari-patented 4RM Evo four-wheel drive system which is integrated with rear-wheel steering for the first time. The result is the newly-patented 4RM-S (four-wheel drive and steering) system which, based on yet another exclusive Prancing Horse patent, the latest evolution of the Slip Side Control (4.0) system, now incorporates the electronic differential (E-Diff) and the SCM-E dampers. All these sophisticated vehicle dynamics controls are seamlessly integrated by Ferrari’s proprietary software and enable the driver to effortlessly handle the GTC4Lusso’s extraordinary torque even on snow-covered, wet or low grip roads. The result is tremendous stability and a sensation of masterful control and security that translates into superior performance. The new-generation SCM-E damper control also contributes to improving performance on rough surfaces and, of course, to superior ride comfort.
The GTC4Lusso’s high levels of performance are also due in part to new aerodynamic solutions, not least a new front grille with integrated air intakes to improve the efficiency of the radiating masses, the air vents on the wing that recall those of the 330 GTC, a roof-mounted rear spoiler and a new triple-fence diffuser. The combined effect of these features is a Cd value that is substantially lower than on the FF.
Style
Penned by Ferrari Design, the GTC4Lusso is a further refinement of the shooting brake coupé, reinterpreting the concept with an extremely streamlined, tapered shape that gives it an almost fastback-like silhouette.
Its sporty soul is underscored by the forms and styling of the rear where the curve of the roof has been lowered whilst retaining enough volume to guarantee exceptional space and comfort for all four occupants, as well as an ample luggage compartment. Ferrari’s signature twin rear lights adorn the tail. These not only emphasise the car’s muscular shoulders and broaden it horizontally, but work visually with the tail pipes to lend a sense of imposing power to the rear. Dynamically chiselled crease lines create a diapason theme along the car’s flanks, breaking up the optical mass, accentuating the muscular wheelarch and imparting a sculpted athleticism.
Interior
Meticulous attention to design and carefully executed detailing has produced a cabin that is a flawless triumph of sporty luxury. Its Dual Cockpit architecture is another first, designed to enhance the shared driving experience for both driver and passenger, with the latter having their own generous optional display with a plethora of functions.
That innovative architecture aside, the cabin’s most striking feature is the beautiful craftsmanship of the materials which have been painstakingly selected and combined to enrich the atmosphere on board.
Generous wraparound seats guarantee all four occupants exceptional comfort and room, creating the same ambience as a luxurious living space.
The GTC4Lusso also debuts the new Infotainment platform featuring a 10.25” HD screen with capacitive touch technology. The new steering wheel is more compact thanks to a smaller air bag and the integrated controls are more ergonomic than ever, making for an even sportier driving experience.
A unique car, a whole new world
Maranello, 8 February 2016 – Ferrari announces the addition to its range of the Ferrari GTC4Lusso, the new four-seater which hails a major evolution of the sporting Grand Tourer concept by integrating rear-wheel steering with four-wheel drive for the first time.
This is a car designed for clients wanting to experience the pleasure of driving a Ferrari anywhere, anytime, be it on short spins or long journeys, snowy mountain roads or city streets, alone or in the company of three lucky passengers. Drivers who demand exceptional power but refuse to compromise on in-car comfort, sporty elegance and impeccable detailing. In short, the GTC4Lusso brings unprecedented versatility to Ferrari driving, like the FF before it which won the Prancing Horse a new, younger client base that, significantly, also makes greater use of its cars, clocking up 30% higher mileage than average.
The GTC4Lusso’s name references illustrious predecessors, such as the 330 GTC or its 2+2 sister model, the 330 GT - one of Enzo Ferrari’s favourites - and the 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso, which represented a sublime combination of elegance and high performance. The number 4 alludes to the car’s four comfortable seats.
Engine
The GTC4Lusso’s 12-cylinder engine delivers smooth, consistent power, punching out a massive 690 cv at 8,000 rpm. Both its 2.6 kg/cv weight-to-power ratio and its 13.5:1 compression ratio set new records for the category. Maximum torque is 697 Nm at 5,750 rpm with 80% already available at just 1,750 rpm for superb responsiveness even at low revs. The soundtrack brilliantly reflects the car’s multifaceted personality: it is rich and powerful in performance driving and discreet yet harmonious in the city.
Dynamics
The Ferrari GTC4Lusso is an exceptionally versatile car in every kind of grip condition thanks to the Ferrari-patented 4RM Evo four-wheel drive system which is integrated with rear-wheel steering for the first time. The result is the newly-patented 4RM-S (four-wheel drive and steering) system which, based on yet another exclusive Prancing Horse patent, the latest evolution of the Slip Side Control (4.0) system, now incorporates the electronic differential (E-Diff) and the SCM-E dampers. All these sophisticated vehicle dynamics controls are seamlessly integrated by Ferrari’s proprietary software and enable the driver to effortlessly handle the GTC4Lusso’s extraordinary torque even on snow-covered, wet or low grip roads. The result is tremendous stability and a sensation of masterful control and security that translates into superior performance. The new-generation SCM-E damper control also contributes to improving performance on rough surfaces and, of course, to superior ride comfort.
The GTC4Lusso’s high levels of performance are also due in part to new aerodynamic solutions, not least a new front grille with integrated air intakes to improve the efficiency of the radiating masses, the air vents on the wing that recall those of the 330 GTC, a roof-mounted rear spoiler and a new triple-fence diffuser. The combined effect of these features is a Cd value that is substantially lower than on the FF.
Style
Penned by Ferrari Design, the GTC4Lusso is a further refinement of the shooting brake coupé, reinterpreting the concept with an extremely streamlined, tapered shape that gives it an almost fastback-like silhouette.
Its sporty soul is underscored by the forms and styling of the rear where the curve of the roof has been lowered whilst retaining enough volume to guarantee exceptional space and comfort for all four occupants, as well as an ample luggage compartment. Ferrari’s signature twin rear lights adorn the tail. These not only emphasise the car’s muscular shoulders and broaden it horizontally, but work visually with the tail pipes to lend a sense of imposing power to the rear. Dynamically chiselled crease lines create a diapason theme along the car’s flanks, breaking up the optical mass, accentuating the muscular wheelarch and imparting a sculpted athleticism.
Interior
Meticulous attention to design and carefully executed detailing has produced a cabin that is a flawless triumph of sporty luxury. Its Dual Cockpit architecture is another first, designed to enhance the shared driving experience for both driver and passenger, with the latter having their own generous optional display with a plethora of functions.
That innovative architecture aside, the cabin’s most striking feature is the beautiful craftsmanship of the materials which have been painstakingly selected and combined to enrich the atmosphere on board.
Generous wraparound seats guarantee all four occupants exceptional comfort and room, creating the same ambience as a luxurious living space.
The GTC4Lusso also debuts the new Infotainment platform featuring a 10.25” HD screen with capacitive touch technology. The new steering wheel is more compact thanks to a smaller air bag and the integrated controls are more ergonomic than ever, making for an even sportier driving experience.
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#114
Team Owner
Wow.
Not too keen on the huge smile in the front bumper, but everything else is gorgeous. Dat ass
Not too keen on the huge smile in the front bumper, but everything else is gorgeous. Dat ass
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#117
Team Owner
To be honest, the more I look at it, the more I like it. Plus, the interior is something gorgeous. I think Ferrari really hit a home run with this car... I'm scared to see the price tag of this thing though...
#118
Team Owner
I even like how Ferrari blatantly COPIED Acura's four barrel exhaust
Ok, ok, I'm just kidding!!!
Ok, ok, I'm just kidding!!!