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I'm a tad bit surprised... This is the best looking viper ever made and yet no one is buying them. I wonder why.
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To be honest, I'd prefer one of these over an equivalent C7... The new corvette is everywhere. Just doesn't feel special.
Dont get get me wrong- the C7 is an awesome car through and through, but there is something to be said about driving a car that not every Tom, Dick and Harry drive.
Dont get get me wrong- the C7 is an awesome car through and through, but there is something to be said about driving a car that not every Tom, Dick and Harry drive.
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To be honest, I'd prefer one of these over an equivalent C7... The new corvette is everywhere. Just doesn't feel special.
Dont get get me wrong- the C7 is an awesome car through and through, but there is something to be said about driving a car that not every Tom, Dick and Harry drive.
Dont get get me wrong- the C7 is an awesome car through and through, but there is something to be said about driving a car that not every Tom, Dick and Harry drive.
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oh Snap!
#528
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but yah i think it is the price. Corvette is a much better performance bargain at $60-70k than a $100k Viper.
As good as Viper is, only the select few die hard Viper fan will be able to afford.
but i personally would take the Viper. V10 > V8
As good as Viper is, only the select few die hard Viper fan will be able to afford.
but i personally would take the Viper. V10 > V8
#529
Driving the Viper is more punishment than pleasure. Can't argue with the numbers though. And will probably be worth big money in 40 years..
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But you abuse it and it will bite you in the ass. Same with either of the Hellcats. You have to respect what you're driving.
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Doesn't surprise me, although very impressive performance for the small NRE budget and somewhat limited support from Chrysler.
The Viper did well in sales initially, was even successful at LeMans and did alot for Mopar prestige.
It still couldn't hide it's partsbin engineering and brute force approach.
Haven't seen the lastest gen but early ones had the build quality and refinement of a Neon.
No wonder sales have been 2 figure monthly for past few years despite the redesign.
Personally I'd take a C7 Z06 or Z07 over a Viper any day. Refinement, great styling and performance.
The Viper did well in sales initially, was even successful at LeMans and did alot for Mopar prestige.
It still couldn't hide it's partsbin engineering and brute force approach.
Haven't seen the lastest gen but early ones had the build quality and refinement of a Neon.
No wonder sales have been 2 figure monthly for past few years despite the redesign.
Personally I'd take a C7 Z06 or Z07 over a Viper any day. Refinement, great styling and performance.
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ACR - front tire is a rubber band.
#533
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I'd be terrified to drive that car fast.
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https://jalopnik.com/at-29-999-will-...u-s-1828517663
The seller of today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Viper claims its factory color is one of a kind. Let’s see if its price might make it kind of a deal.
Boise is the capital of Idaho, and the state’s most populous city. It sits in the southwestern region of the state in a swath of communities locally known as the Treasure Valley.
What sort of treasures lie there? Well, one might say yesterday’s 1989 Ford Bronco II was one. At just $1,500 seemed an amazing find. That fact was not lost on the majority fo you, who awarded the trucklet with an overwhelming 95-percent Nice Price win and the nebulous promise that it would yours if you only lived closer.
That Bronco II might be a rare sight on the road these days. After all, the model is antiquated, and it wasn’t really one that generated a ton of preservationists’ ardor either. Still, what if what you really wanted was something that was truly one of a kind?
That’s just what the seller of this 1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 avers in his ad. What makes it one of a kind? Well, it’s that paint. The current owner says that the only factory colors offered on the Viper in ’96 were Stone White, Viper Red, and Viper Black. This car is none of those three. Instead, it’s… well, let’s allow the seller to describe the hue:
Now I presently have a rather large bruise on my left bicep, the result of some uncomfortable contortions required while wrenching on one of my old cars over the weekend. Upon contemplation of said bruise, I would say he has accurately described its color too.
In addition to the unique color, all the badging has been removed from the car. That’s a plus should you suffer from Ophidiophobia.
Is a non-factory color on an old Viper really that special, even if it actually came that way from the factory? Maybe not, but it is at least interesting, and there’s a lot to like about this Dodge in addition to the funky color.
First off, the car is claimed to have been meticulously maintained over the course of its modest 48,000 mile life. According to the seller, who seems to be at least the car’s second owner, it accumulated those miles in sunny and salt-free California. Originally purchased at a Dodge dealer in Bay Area community of Burlingame, the car is now doing time in Sacramento, the State Capital.
Along with the custom paint also comes some desirable options—A/C and the hardtop among them—and some aftermarket additions. Those include an upgraded stereo, which may prove pretty worthless in a car as uncompromisingly noisy as a Viper. There’s also a GPS system and built-in radar detector. All this work is claimed to have originally cost $10,000, which sound pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
You didn’t ask me, but I’ll be you’d like to ask about this Viper’s mechanical condition. The seller says it ‘runs and drives great,’ and that it has enjoyed the recent addition of a new serpentine belt. That of course, is most appropriate on a car named after a snake. Aftermarket springs (by Dinan?) are about the only non-factory bits in there too.
Overall, the car presents as immaculate in the ad, and there’s seemingly nothing waiting to bite you oat the DMV either as it apparently comes with a clean title.
A quick search of the VIN shows the car having been offered back in 2013 for $34,500. Back then, the car was presented as #309 out of 721 built for ’96, and was claimed to have rolled out of the factory at 10 AM on Monday, December 11th of the prior year.
That’s pretty specific and is the kind of pedantic knowledge that if shared will make you unpopular at parties. The car doesn’t seem to have suffered any degradation in the five years since that last transaction, and in fact presents almost as-new today.
Prices on first generation Vipers have been fairly stagnant of late. Maybe it’s their uncompromising nature. Side curtains and heavy clutches get old fast. However, if you’re willing to put up with the car’s idiosyncrasies then you’ll be rewarded by a driving experience unlike anything this side of a Shelby Cobra or maybe a P51 Mustang.
What would that experience cost? The asking price is $29,999, and while there’s a lot of nines in that number, the leading two is what’s important. That makes this a wild, 8-litre, 415 horsepower monster for about the price of a new Toyota Avalon. Which would you rather have?
What’s your take on this one of one Viper and that $29,999 price? Does that make you want to slither into its seat? Or, does is that price a total pain in the asp?
Boise is the capital of Idaho, and the state’s most populous city. It sits in the southwestern region of the state in a swath of communities locally known as the Treasure Valley.
What sort of treasures lie there? Well, one might say yesterday’s 1989 Ford Bronco II was one. At just $1,500 seemed an amazing find. That fact was not lost on the majority fo you, who awarded the trucklet with an overwhelming 95-percent Nice Price win and the nebulous promise that it would yours if you only lived closer.
That Bronco II might be a rare sight on the road these days. After all, the model is antiquated, and it wasn’t really one that generated a ton of preservationists’ ardor either. Still, what if what you really wanted was something that was truly one of a kind?
That’s just what the seller of this 1996 Dodge Viper RT/10 avers in his ad. What makes it one of a kind? Well, it’s that paint. The current owner says that the only factory colors offered on the Viper in ’96 were Stone White, Viper Red, and Viper Black. This car is none of those three. Instead, it’s… well, let’s allow the seller to describe the hue:
This unique color is best described as a dark gray influenced black with very subtle undertones of light grey and purple.
In addition to the unique color, all the badging has been removed from the car. That’s a plus should you suffer from Ophidiophobia.
Is a non-factory color on an old Viper really that special, even if it actually came that way from the factory? Maybe not, but it is at least interesting, and there’s a lot to like about this Dodge in addition to the funky color.
First off, the car is claimed to have been meticulously maintained over the course of its modest 48,000 mile life. According to the seller, who seems to be at least the car’s second owner, it accumulated those miles in sunny and salt-free California. Originally purchased at a Dodge dealer in Bay Area community of Burlingame, the car is now doing time in Sacramento, the State Capital.
Along with the custom paint also comes some desirable options—A/C and the hardtop among them—and some aftermarket additions. Those include an upgraded stereo, which may prove pretty worthless in a car as uncompromisingly noisy as a Viper. There’s also a GPS system and built-in radar detector. All this work is claimed to have originally cost $10,000, which sound pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
You didn’t ask me, but I’ll be you’d like to ask about this Viper’s mechanical condition. The seller says it ‘runs and drives great,’ and that it has enjoyed the recent addition of a new serpentine belt. That of course, is most appropriate on a car named after a snake. Aftermarket springs (by Dinan?) are about the only non-factory bits in there too.
Overall, the car presents as immaculate in the ad, and there’s seemingly nothing waiting to bite you oat the DMV either as it apparently comes with a clean title.
A quick search of the VIN shows the car having been offered back in 2013 for $34,500. Back then, the car was presented as #309 out of 721 built for ’96, and was claimed to have rolled out of the factory at 10 AM on Monday, December 11th of the prior year.
That’s pretty specific and is the kind of pedantic knowledge that if shared will make you unpopular at parties. The car doesn’t seem to have suffered any degradation in the five years since that last transaction, and in fact presents almost as-new today.
Prices on first generation Vipers have been fairly stagnant of late. Maybe it’s their uncompromising nature. Side curtains and heavy clutches get old fast. However, if you’re willing to put up with the car’s idiosyncrasies then you’ll be rewarded by a driving experience unlike anything this side of a Shelby Cobra or maybe a P51 Mustang.
What would that experience cost? The asking price is $29,999, and while there’s a lot of nines in that number, the leading two is what’s important. That makes this a wild, 8-litre, 415 horsepower monster for about the price of a new Toyota Avalon. Which would you rather have?
What’s your take on this one of one Viper and that $29,999 price? Does that make you want to slither into its seat? Or, does is that price a total pain in the asp?
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/36892/...g-them-in-2017
The very last Dodge Viper rolled off the Conner Valley production line in August 2017, leaving behind its notorious tire-shredding madness to be remembered as its legacy. Despite its production line being down for over three years, there are still a number of cars secretly sitting on dealer lots across the country—and over the last three months, as pointed out by Motor Biscuit, two of those hidden gems managed to find new homes.
Now, it's not hard to believe that there are new Vipers hanging around, waiting to be bought. Perhaps they carry enormous price tags just waiting for the right buyer to scoop one up at an inflated price. After all, where else can you get a brand new Viper these days?
It's also plausible that a few dealers have several of these final model-year cars stashed away in a storage facility somewhere, unregistered, waiting for the next big barn find to skyrocket the car's value.
The 640-horsepower, rear-drive monster was—and honestly still is—an absolute beast of a car. Its howling V10 attracted a certain type of buyer that just longed for pure American muscle and accepted no substitute. But even with its powerful image, sales of the Viper have never been that strong compared to other brands' flagship sports cars. And because of this, Dodge put the Viper out to pasture on Aug. 16, 2017.
Since the nameplate was retired, the already-weak sales have dwindled down to a trickle. For context, Dodge sold just 19 Vipers in 2018, and it sold even fewer—just five—in 2019. But since July, Dodge dealers managed to convince two happy customers that their long lost Vipers were the sports cars to buy during a global pandemic and economic recession.
This begs the question: where are all the new old stock Dodge Vipers hiding out? We've checked eBay and various online classifieds while even spending a good bit of time on Google with a magnifying glass. From what we can tell, there are no new cars to be found. That's not to say they aren't out there somewhere—for all we know, there could be a handful of dealers with the cars parked on showroom floors to lure in customers. Or, they might be stashed away as potential appreciating assets.
We reached out to Dodge to see if we can pinpoint how many examples of the Viper might remain for the public to buy and will update this article with the company's response.
Now, it's not hard to believe that there are new Vipers hanging around, waiting to be bought. Perhaps they carry enormous price tags just waiting for the right buyer to scoop one up at an inflated price. After all, where else can you get a brand new Viper these days?
It's also plausible that a few dealers have several of these final model-year cars stashed away in a storage facility somewhere, unregistered, waiting for the next big barn find to skyrocket the car's value.
The 640-horsepower, rear-drive monster was—and honestly still is—an absolute beast of a car. Its howling V10 attracted a certain type of buyer that just longed for pure American muscle and accepted no substitute. But even with its powerful image, sales of the Viper have never been that strong compared to other brands' flagship sports cars. And because of this, Dodge put the Viper out to pasture on Aug. 16, 2017.
Since the nameplate was retired, the already-weak sales have dwindled down to a trickle. For context, Dodge sold just 19 Vipers in 2018, and it sold even fewer—just five—in 2019. But since July, Dodge dealers managed to convince two happy customers that their long lost Vipers were the sports cars to buy during a global pandemic and economic recession.
This begs the question: where are all the new old stock Dodge Vipers hiding out? We've checked eBay and various online classifieds while even spending a good bit of time on Google with a magnifying glass. From what we can tell, there are no new cars to be found. That's not to say they aren't out there somewhere—for all we know, there could be a handful of dealers with the cars parked on showroom floors to lure in customers. Or, they might be stashed away as potential appreciating assets.
We reached out to Dodge to see if we can pinpoint how many examples of the Viper might remain for the public to buy and will update this article with the company's response.
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https://www.motor1.com/news/703147/s...ars-sold-2023/
Some vehicles refuse to die, showing up in sales charts years after being discontinued. We like to refer to them as zombie cars, and Stellantis had its fair share gathering dust on dealer lots in the United States last year. The full numbers are out for 2023 and show more than a few models stubbornly sticking around.
It only makes sense to start with the most spectacular of them all – the Dodge Viper. The dead-but-alive performance machine racked up two sales, both in the final quarter of 2023. Sales were technically up by 100 percent compared to the year before when only one found a new home. Looking further back, four were sold in 2021 and another four in 2020. It's worth noting the last Viper was made in August 2017 at the Conner Avenue Assembly Plant in Detroit, Michigan.
It only makes sense to start with the most spectacular of them all – the Dodge Viper. The dead-but-alive performance machine racked up two sales, both in the final quarter of 2023. Sales were technically up by 100 percent compared to the year before when only one found a new home. Looking further back, four were sold in 2021 and another four in 2020. It's worth noting the last Viper was made in August 2017 at the Conner Avenue Assembly Plant in Detroit, Michigan.
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