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Old 09-05-2006, 09:36 PM
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nice. i wanna see the 535i out already
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I like exterior and the new dual exhausts on the rear, but even a caveman would know that Acura interiors are way better than BMW interiors. The Acura gauges have more personality than the bland looking BMW gauges.
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BMW's got some thick steering wheels.
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The dual exhaust look sweeeet. it fits the car better
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BMW's got some thick steering wheels.
i love those. Very nice when driving the car hard.
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i still hate the rear.
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http://www.automobilemag.com/feature..._dyno_revised/

Dynoed a different 335 again.

few weeks ago, we got a surprise visit from the new BMW 335i coupe, one of the hottest cars of the year. We’d been quivering in anticipation for the 335i not because it’s a 3-series--although that pedigree doesn’t hurt--but because the mind-meltingly fast two-door offers BMW’s first turbocharged gasoline engine ever to be sold in the States.

With this in mind, we just had to take the new coupe to the dyno and see exactly how much power its twin-turbo powerplant puts to the ground. The results? 275 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels--more than we expected. Rated by the Bimmer boys at 300 hp and 300 lb-ft of torque, it was pretty clear to us that the Bavarian masterpiece was a little underrated from the factory.

In the weeks since we first published the results of that test, we’ve heard some criticism of our conclusion that the 335i makes "closer to 350 hp" than the reported 300. We arrived at that verdict after some quick calculations, but since a chassis dyno only reports how many horses make it to the wheels, it’s admittedly a hard number to verify. We did four runs with that particular car, and the actual peaks were 276, 280, 280, and 283 horsepower. We published the lowest number to be sure there was no claim that we were exaggerating the engine’s output.

But what if this was a one-time fluke? What if that first 335i was a particularly strong example? Or--gasp--a ringer! The answer to that question appeared in the form of another 335i (this time painted space gray metallic) that BMW dropped off last week. Again, without hesitation, we grabbed the keys and headed for the dyno shop.

2007 BMW 335i Coupe Rear Corner
On the way, we were pleased to find intact the awesome midrange torque and incredible straight-six soundtrack. Reacquainting ourselves with the gauges, we noticed that, as with the original tester, the oil temperature stabilized at 240 degrees Fahrenheit while cruising in sixth gear at 80 mph. Lesser engines would melt at those temperatures!

Temperature? Wait! A quick look at the outside temperature display showed that it was only 78 degrees Fahrenheit outside. The last time we put a 335i on the rollers, it was 92. Everybody knows that engines make more power when they get cooler air--and that turbocharged engines are particularly susceptible to heat soak. We stopped worrying and started getting excited. This one might do even better.

We strapped the 335i down, started it up, and did three runs back to back to back. The results were very consistent, showing peaks of 285 hp, then 282 hp, and, finally, 287 hp. This 335i was even stronger at the top end than the last one, but not as strong in the midrange. Peak torque was stable through all three runs at about 285 lb-ft.

After the final run, we decided to grab audio of the 335i running from first gear through fourth. We expected to have the hairs on the back of our neck stand up at the sound of the 3.0-liter engine at full throat, but what we didn’t expect, of course, was a peak hp number nudging the 300-hp mark. That’s right--shortly after the shift into fourth, this second 335i peaked briefly at 299.93 hp.

Looking closely at the chart, there’s a likely explanation for that outrageous number. No, it wasn’t additional torque from a rough shift--the peak occurred too long after the gear change. Like most turbocharged cars, the computer allows a momentary spike of boost before stabilizing it at a prescribed level. We lucked out, as that spike happened right at the engine’s inherent power peak, so we got a little nudge in the final number. Whether the dyno numbers ultimately translate into 300 hp, 350 hp, or 327.543-to-the-fifth-power-hp, the results speak for themselves: this is one very powerful engine.
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Hey Crazy, you should replace the necklace in your avatar to a BMW one because you seem to be our BMW representative on Acurazine and not a VW one
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wow! and infiniti is suppose to outpower this with their rumored 3.7? sounds tough to beat
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300 WHP / 285 lb ft torque at the wheels? That is insane. I seriously doubt Infiniti can churn out a NA VQ35 or VQ37 with that kind of output (and not have terrible fuel economy). We know Nissan can build a reliable TT engine ... but will they build one at the $35k-$45k price range to compete with the 335i?
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i just built a 335 coupe and it came out to be 45k
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Originally Posted by derrick
300 WHP / 285 lb ft torque at the wheels? That is insane. I seriously doubt Infiniti can churn out a NA VQ35 or VQ37 with that kind of output (and not have terrible fuel economy). We know Nissan can build a reliable TT engine ... but will they build one at the $35k-$45k price range to compete with the 335i?
Nissan has not built a TT motor since they ceased production of the R34 Skyline GT-R. Since then, the VQ has developed from the VQ30DE-k (00-01 Maxima) to VQ35DE (02-03 Maxima/Altima 3.5L/Murano/Quest) to VQ35DE (G35/Z/FX/M) to VQ35DE rev up (G35/Z) to VQ35HR (07 G35/Z).

It is very conceiveable that a performance oriented 'VQ37HR' can be further developed to supercede the N54's unofficial power levels while maintaining similar if not better fuel economy and still be priced in the lower $40k range. Time will tell though.

Back on topic, I am not surprised that BMW's official HP/TQ numbers are understated.
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
i just built a 335 coupe and it came out to be 45k
Jesal and I came up with about the same price (with slightly different specs)... so I guess that's going to be about the average...

I'd need to get 15K for my 03 CLS in trade, put 20K down, and would still need to finance 10K (3 years @ $300 a month).... I just can't justify getting back into payments and cashing out of some of my savings/investments...

My next car will probably be a civic or xb
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Jesal and I came up with about the same price (with slightly different specs)... so I guess that's going to be about the average...

I'd need to get 15K for my 03 CLS in trade, put 20K down, and would still need to finance 10K (3 years @ $300 a month).... I just can't justify getting back into payments and cashing out of some of my savings/investments...

My next car will probably be a civic or xb
dat would be a hell of a down payment....i just dont see the next G coupe being far from 45k, and this 335 looks like it has potential
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I haven't seen a coupe yet. Are these out yet?
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OMG I think i've just wet myself stupid that aero kit is amazing but I just sorry I will not have the money unless I win the lottery but one of these days if not a m3 then a 335i 2007.
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335 sedan now on BMW USA....

http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/335isedan/default
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weird, its about the same price as the coupe i priced out. Guess the sedan isnt cheaper than the coupe like it used to be...
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lol what's the point of hiding the emblems
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lol what's the point of hiding the emblems


Because they want to convince people that it's a new Pontiac?
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That aero kit looks as good as the stock car. Is what I'm seeing special in a $40k+ car?
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Saw one on the road the other day....actually I heard what I thought was a G35 coupe, but it turned out to be the 335 lol...they sound very similar.
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I have the article but my german isnt good. I hope their is a german here that can write a summary about the test. I have some info ut I want to know more


Laptime Nordschleife 8.26 min (4 seconds slower than M3)
Laptime Hockenheim 1.17,8 min (0,8 seconds faster than C55 and 1.5 seconds slower than M3)

0-100km/h 5.6 sec
0-200km/h 20,7 sec

36m slalom: 130km/h (M3 123km/h, C55 122km/h)
110m change lane: 136km/h (M6 137km/h, M3 136km/h, C55 134km/h)
Wet track: 1.36,8 min (M5 E60 1.36, 7min)

G-powers: 1.15g (C55, 1,10g and M3 1.10g)

Overall score: 45 points (1 point better than M3)






BMW, are they cheating? it is called the 335i even though it comes with a 3.0-litres bi-turbo engine. But the two 39mm turbo chargers give it the advantage same as 0.5 litres more displacement.

The powerful engine has no problem with the weight of the car, always offers enough power and makes it a pretty good performer even though it has no "M" in its name.

The engine and 6-spped manual transmisison are a pefect peering, only there is no mechanical limited slip differential but an ESP which always interferes with throttle and gas, lacks a bit of traction. But the power of the engine always preserves the enthusiam of driving one.

You have to get used to the new active steering whoch gives a preview on the future things to come from BMW.

The 335i is a true dream car, nothing else, the quickest coupe without the "M" in its name.



Acceleration 335i:
80-120km/h 4/5/6 gear: 5.5 s /6.5s / 7.9s
80-160km/h 4/5/6 gear: 11.4s/13,7s/16.7s
80-180km/h 4/5/6 gear: 14,8s/17,8S/ ---

M3
80-120km/h 4/5/6 gear: 5,2 s / 6,6 s / 9,5 s
80-160km/h 4/5/6 gear: 10,9 s / 13,9 s / 18,9 s
80-180km/h 4/5/6 gear: 14,1 s / 17,4 s / 25 s

C55
80-120km/h 4/5/6 gear: 6,3 s / 7,9 s / --- s
80-160km/h 4/5/6 gear: 12,8 s / 15,9 s / --- s
80-180km/h 4/5/6 gear: 16,3 s / 20,2 s / - s
Someone please steal and burn my car.
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Someone please steal and burn my car.
Just keeping visiting Detroit ... I'm sure it'll happen soon enough.
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Saw the TV commercial for it today. I like it in motion
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AWESOME.

I just came back from a 335 Test Drive to read this.

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Their forum layout blows.
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Saw a 3-series coupe on the 101 near Oxnard, and I noticed it only because it had black tape over the badges. Maybe a dealer testing it out?
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Why in the would would they black out the badges when the 350ci is out already?
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Their forum layout blows.
:roadfly: Yeah, some of the forums out there are still in the stone ages... Every time I see that "WebBBS" format on a forum, I just shake my head...


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