7or8

Yeah good luck EmuMessenger. Just the three transmissions alone should be enough to get it lemoned.

Booyah

I would definately persue the lemon law on your 03! 3 trannys qualifies you Im sure?
Heck just blow your 3rd tranny up and go from there! You will lose too much to get rid of it that soon.

need4spd_RENAMED

VtechMW

Wow, they took you SSN and liscence and $1K.

Here it was just a hop skip and a jump, $100 (anouther dealer wanted $250), name, address and color choice did the trick. They said I would get the first to the dealership (I guess the sales manager fibed when he said they have a deposit on 3, as the GM told me not).

Even when I put the deposit on the 04 Audi S4, they only wanted $250, I can not imagine loosing use of $1K for so long (and the dealer getting the intrest). I'm skiping the S4 as it is just too much, and not differnt enough (other than the V8).

Sorry to harp, I guess I would not have done it for that amount.

I'll keep you updated with regards to whatever details the dealer gives me, but unlikely I will get much like the rest of us.

need4spd_RENAMED

EmuMessenger

With all those problems, why would you buy an 04?

Good luck otherwise!

JUNPWRD

I've heard of lots of tranny problems from several friends of mine who are mechanics at the local dealership.

need4spd_RENAMED

VtechMW,

I agree on the quality - first builds (first month) should be the best (until a year or so passes when quality will pick up again) as the engineers typically are there instructing the line workers durring the first run, and even doing some of the assembly themselves. There will be some growing pains, but Honda usually get the bugs out before production.

If I were buying a Chevy Malibu, I would be concerned and wait the year.

JD Powers recently rated the automakers, Japanesse came out on top, US makers second and Europeans, on the bottom, with the US owned Euros and Jap companies below their wholy owned brothers. - See current autoweek.com car news.

VtecMW

Yeah, I'm not sure if all the info they took has something to do with Virginia. The rules regarding certain purchases here, among other things, can be quite strange at times!

As far as the $1K, I'm not going to stress it too hard. I'll just have them add it in to what I put down on the car. You're right though, it is a lot of money. Karen Radley Acura requires the same deposit.

Pohanka, had two deposits down before I got there. Not sure how many they have now.

What type of options are you getting on your TL?

EmuMessenger

I had a 99 and loved it and my wife has an 03 Accord EX-V6-Navi with no problems and a relative has an 89 Legend with 200k and no problems.

It is my belief and hope this car was an exception.

The car is an excellent value and the service is fantastic.

I used to own an ES-300 and this service is just as good as the Lexus.

need4spd_RENAMED

VtecMW -

Sorry, did not mean to push. Good Luck!

Ordered Pearl White / Ebony 5AT - but if HPT is AWD or high output HP and Brembo's with 6MT only, I will have to break my promise to my wife and get the 6MT. (This would be my first automatic ever)

No Nav - looks cool, but for me, I don't have a use for it, many people I know do though.

Would also like the active cooling seats if Acura has them (like BMW, M-B, and others mentioned earlier, shure keeps the body cool against the leather seats in the cars I have been a passenger in).

As for other options, don't know utill they tell us.

Posts are sure slow today, not much about new features of the 04TL

This is only my second day of posting, how do I keep in touch with you about progress of the order?

jjstokes

puttin my deposit down this weekend..

my 00TL is up on Oct 1st, hopefully i'll be able to roll right into an 04 without any wait.. otherwise my girl is going to be without a car for a little bit..

can't wait for this baby... gona be sick!!!

in the meantime..

--jjstokes

need4spd_RENAMED

Congrats jjstokes!

motor

Our pre order sheet included 18" chrome wheels for the 04 TL.

jjstokes

just got off the phone with acura dealer here in NJ..


they want 1000 down.. and its going to be 500 over MSRP.. all refundable of course..


what do you guys think?

EmuMessenger

I wold not pay more than MSRP.

Like the current TL, they will be giving them away in the second year.

MSRP for a brand new model - Sure
More than MSRP for a brand new model - :sqntfawk: :pfawk:

EmuMessenger

This sounds like the first confirmation of anything above 17" for the new model.

Any chance you can post a scan of the option sheet?

Booyah

Do not pay over MSRP! Look around some more or talk to them a little. My dealer has already told me that they are coming off sticker a bit...dont know how much but he said I will not pay sticker...Good man I say

Yes Post an option sheet if you have one, that would be nice to see

need4spd_RENAMED

JJStokes,

Are you close to westchester County NY?

justinjsw

Westchester county? I grew up in NYC lived in White Plains for a while...family lives in Westbury, LI. Now Im officially a SoCal dude.

Sorry didn't mean to go off topic.

VtecMW

Reach me via e-mail at vtec00@yahoo.com. My Instant Messenger screennames should be listed on my profile as well.

jjstokes, congrats on your deposit! Don't pay more than MSRP, however. That's ridiculous. Find another Acura dealer with more reasonable terms if you have to.

Can anyone post the pre-order info, or give more details about the 18s. I hate chrome, so I hope they'll have an 18" polished silver finish option.

need4spd_RENAMED

Sorry, i mixed up the other post with JJStokes -

I am unclear where you are, as you say you are calling NJ, but in SoCal?

JJStokes - Anyway, if you want low cost deposits and MSRP or less, and willing to come to westchester, I'll put you in contact with a few dealers with low deposits 100-250.

need4spd_RENAMED

Thanks for the contact info, I dont do IM.

I agree no chrome for me, I hope the window moldings are black like on the spy shots also.

need4spd_RENAMED

Hey Justin,

Any new news tonight?

It got quiet today!

Thanks for all your info yesterday, quite a good thread!

princed

Hmmm... Very few people (including my local dealer) can believe that Acura would choose to equip only the 6MT with AWD. On rereading this post, though, I just realized that Justin doesn't specifically say the other versions do not come with VTM-4. He just said that the HPT trim level had a "revised version" of this system with other high performance options.

Is it possible that all 04 TL trim levels will be AWD with the VTM-4 seen in the MDX in the standard trim, and a special, performance-enhanced AWD-system (VTM-4+??) on the HPT??

Just a thought...

motor

Sorry to be a tease. I'll try to post it before noon friday 7-11.

EmuMessenger

Great!

We will ALL be waiting.

RJC RSX

in the mean time to keep us busy, could you please post a few interesting options from the sheet?

Acuman

Motor man,

Any mention of ventilated seats?? I am sweating out here.

Thanks

Acuman

Booyah

Ill have my computer running at 0700!! Oh Boy

justinjsw

The option sheet doesn't list anything in detail. Bodykits, spoiler, decklid spoiler, optional factory wheel etc. There are no pictures of any of the items.

EmuMessenger

Glad I am not the only one wanting the ventilated seats!

Even if it was only two weeks out of the year, we need them!

provench

So you gonna be able to pull the "early brochure scan" like you did for us with the TSX? That was such a fun night ... I stayed up until like 2am to host those scans for ya I am happy to do the same if the opportunity comes up

VtecMW

I found this photo in this week's Autoweek. It's very small, so these are the best scans I could get of it. Nice to see it in a different color









The Autoweek article reads:

TL, as promised

"Acura showed off its next generation TL in concept form at the New York Auto Show; now here's the real thing undergoing tests in preparation for its introduction as a 2004 model. Taking cues from the concept, the next TL is shorter and sportier, and rides on the all-new Honda Accord platform that debuted last year. Look for potential horsepower from a larger displacement V6 to top 280 in the TL, along with a possible all-wheel-drive option. We apologize for getting readers' hopes up in our June 30 issue, but if it's any consolation you can find a slew of TL spy shots at autoweek.com."

Jason

Is that lunar testing there? It makes one hell of a rover

EmuMessenger

Great post and scan job.

Has anyone heard anything about a trip computer?

My wife has an 03 Accord EX-V6-Navi and thankfully it has a trip computer, but it pales in comparison to the one in my 97 Jeep Cherokee.

I am hoping for the following:
Avg speed
Avg MPG
Instant MPG
Distance to empty
Tire pressure
Service required
Total engine hours

Any information would be great.

phile

Thanks for the scan, VtecMW.

I really like the overall shape of the new TL, and it looks even better in color. I can't wait for official pics to come out.

In other related news, autoweek.com reports that Infiniti will offer AWD on the G35 sedan...hmmm, anticipating competition?

RJC RSX

those rear wheels look smaller than the front, does that make any sense?

ncsustash

No AWD will be on the 2004 TL.

ben1233

Again, maybe its the angle and body-cladding, but what's going on with the front and especially rear overhangs? They look rather large. Anyone agree? Or am I seeing things?

jwaters943

I think it's an optical illusion. The car is undergoing testing and those are open spoked wheels so my best guess is the front wheels have accumulated more brake dust.

EmuMessenger

On what are you basing this statement?

I also thought AWD was a little far-fetched, but I am just trying to be optimistic.