20" Tire recomendation
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20" Tire recomendation
Hi, I just got my Niche Millan M134 for my TLX and I have trouble deciding on wheel size. Front 20x8.5 Rear 20x10 I'm looking for a strait tire wall look on the rim lip. Any suggestions?
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Nice rim, we considered the same ones...
For a cheaper tire, look at the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 and the General G-MAX AS-03. Both have served me well, good road feel and feedback. For a more expensive tire, right now I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my M and love them.
Stay away from the the Continental DWS. I know they have decent ratings and a good price point but I had 9 side wall blow outs in two different tire sizes. Continental was great about replacing them and I (foolishly) gladly accepted the fact that Continental was willing to keep me in new tires for the life of both cars I had them on. The last blowout however was what I can only describe as a most inopportune time, resulting in the total destruction of my 09' M3. I promptly took them off of the second car I had them on and replaced them with the g-force's listed above.
For a cheaper tire, look at the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 and the General G-MAX AS-03. Both have served me well, good road feel and feedback. For a more expensive tire, right now I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my M and love them.
Stay away from the the Continental DWS. I know they have decent ratings and a good price point but I had 9 side wall blow outs in two different tire sizes. Continental was great about replacing them and I (foolishly) gladly accepted the fact that Continental was willing to keep me in new tires for the life of both cars I had them on. The last blowout however was what I can only describe as a most inopportune time, resulting in the total destruction of my 09' M3. I promptly took them off of the second car I had them on and replaced them with the g-force's listed above.
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Are you AWD? I'm going to guess you are looking for a 275/30/20 for the rear (roughly -1.1% of stock diameter and 10.8" wide) and a 235/25/20 for the front (same -1.1 diameter difference and 9.3" wide).
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Those tire sizes are not the same diameter. They are similar to the sizes I recommended in terms of width @ 8.9" and 10" respectively. That front wheel size will put you off -2 mph @ 60 mph and there is roughly half an inch sidewall difference...
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The best ride probably would have been 8.5" all the way around with 245/35/20's on them. Given the size you bought, the recommended sizes I gave would give good rim protection and a straight(er) side wall. However, different tire maker/models will appear different to some degree. Also, the 235/25/20 are a harder to find size = less make/model options.
On a 8.5" rim, a 225 is the narrowest tire you want to go with, a 245 is usually perfect. On a 10", a 255 is minimum and a 275 is usually perfect. As I said though, different makers and models will be slightly different. Case in point a 245/35/20 DWS has a slightly larger diameter that the same tire in the BFG g-Force Comp of the same size, though the g-Force offers better rim protection...
Check out https://tiresize.com/calculator/ to see how all of these numbers work together and to view other options.
On a 8.5" rim, a 225 is the narrowest tire you want to go with, a 245 is usually perfect. On a 10", a 255 is minimum and a 275 is usually perfect. As I said though, different makers and models will be slightly different. Case in point a 245/35/20 DWS has a slightly larger diameter that the same tire in the BFG g-Force Comp of the same size, though the g-Force offers better rim protection...
Check out https://tiresize.com/calculator/ to see how all of these numbers work together and to view other options.
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Please post pics of wheels installed. Those were the same rims I was debating getting but went for 18" split 5 spoke. I may change to those or similar 20s when theses tires run out in a few years so please post pics!
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Nice rim, we considered the same ones...
For a cheaper tire, look at the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 and the General G-MAX AS-03. Both have served me well, good road feel and feedback. For a more expensive tire, right now I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my M and love them.
Stay away from the the Continental DWS. I know they have decent ratings and a good price point but I had 9 side wall blow outs in two different tire sizes. Continental was great about replacing them and I (foolishly) gladly accepted the fact that Continental was willing to keep me in new tires for the life of both cars I had them on. The last blowout however was what I can only describe as a most inopportune time, resulting in the total destruction of my 09' M3. I promptly took them off of the second car I had them on and replaced them with the g-force's listed above.
For a cheaper tire, look at the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 and the General G-MAX AS-03. Both have served me well, good road feel and feedback. For a more expensive tire, right now I have Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my M and love them.
Stay away from the the Continental DWS. I know they have decent ratings and a good price point but I had 9 side wall blow outs in two different tire sizes. Continental was great about replacing them and I (foolishly) gladly accepted the fact that Continental was willing to keep me in new tires for the life of both cars I had them on. The last blowout however was what I can only describe as a most inopportune time, resulting in the total destruction of my 09' M3. I promptly took them off of the second car I had them on and replaced them with the g-force's listed above.
As far as General or BFGoodrich, those are 3rd tier tire brands. Nothing wrong with that, but (personally) try to stay with the top 2. (Continental is a 1st or 2nd tier, depending on how they are ranked.)
#15
Why would you stagger a FWD or FWD-biased car? It's kind of like putting a big honking wing on the back of a Civic.
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If you are asking me, I wouldn't. The sizes stated by OP were that of a staggered setup. The recommendations I made were appropriate for what he had to work with and what he was trying to achieve.
As to the Continental tires you defended, when I stated DWS, I was referencing the EC DWS, which has been a major source of contention for us in the recent past. Like everything else your mileage may vary and for your sake, I hope it does. For reference, i have no problem with Continental brand tires in general, in fact I still run a set. The DWS has been plagued with issues since its onset; A fact I learned after the fact.
FYI, Continental owns General. General tires are great tires. A good majority of their offerings are still made here in the US. As to A, B, C, 1, 2, 3 grades, etc, both General and BF Goodrich would be 2nd tier by most definitions. Regardless, they both make excellent tires as well as some that aren't worth their weight, as all manufacturers do regardless of review "tier" rating.
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If you are asking me, I wouldn't. The sizes stated by OP were that of a staggered setup. The recommendations I made were appropriate for what he had to work with and what he was trying to achieve.
As to the Continental tires you defended, when I stated DWS, I was referencing the EC DWS, which has been a major source of contention for us in the recent past. Like everything else your mileage may vary and for your sake, I hope it does. For reference, i have no problem with Continental brand tires in general, in fact I still run a set. The DWS has been plagued with issues since its onset; A fact I learned after the fact.
FYI, Continental owns General. General tires are great tires. A good majority of their offerings are still made here in the US. As to A, B, C, 1, 2, 3 grades, etc, both General and BF Goodrich would be 2nd tier by most definitions. Regardless, they both make excellent tires as well as some that aren't worth their weight, as all manufacturers do regardless of review "tier" rating.
As to the Continental tires you defended, when I stated DWS, I was referencing the EC DWS, which has been a major source of contention for us in the recent past. Like everything else your mileage may vary and for your sake, I hope it does. For reference, i have no problem with Continental brand tires in general, in fact I still run a set. The DWS has been plagued with issues since its onset; A fact I learned after the fact.
FYI, Continental owns General. General tires are great tires. A good majority of their offerings are still made here in the US. As to A, B, C, 1, 2, 3 grades, etc, both General and BF Goodrich would be 2nd tier by most definitions. Regardless, they both make excellent tires as well as some that aren't worth their weight, as all manufacturers do regardless of review "tier" rating.
I have had great luck with Continental, particularly the older Contisport Contact. As far as the DWS 06, I think it was release in Spring 15.
For those that may be unfamilar with tire tiers, here you go: What's in a tier? Who knows? - Modern Tire Dealer
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#18
The best ride probably would have been 8.5" all the way around with 245/35/20's on them. Given the size you bought, the recommended sizes I gave would give good rim protection and a straight(er) side wall. However, different tire maker/models will appear different to some degree. Also, the 235/25/20 are a harder to find size = less make/model options.
On a 8.5" rim, a 225 is the narrowest tire you want to go with, a 245 is usually perfect. On a 10", a 255 is minimum and a 275 is usually perfect. As I said though, different makers and models will be slightly different. Case in point a 245/35/20 DWS has a slightly larger diameter that the same tire in the BFG g-Force Comp of the same size, though the g-Force offers better rim protection...
Check out https://tiresize.com/calculator/ to see how all of these numbers work together and to view other options.
On a 8.5" rim, a 225 is the narrowest tire you want to go with, a 245 is usually perfect. On a 10", a 255 is minimum and a 275 is usually perfect. As I said though, different makers and models will be slightly different. Case in point a 245/35/20 DWS has a slightly larger diameter that the same tire in the BFG g-Force Comp of the same size, though the g-Force offers better rim protection...
Check out https://tiresize.com/calculator/ to see how all of these numbers work together and to view other options.
I know this is a tire thread mainly, but curious what offset would look right when running 20x8.5 - 245/35/20 all the way around?
I am new to the Acura world.
#19
That sounds like a good size. IMO, a 35 side wall boarders on looking like a rubberband. But defintely don't stagger the wheels like some do. It's a front wheel drive / front wheel biased car, and looks rice if you put larger wheels on the rear. And please, by all means, don't stretch the tires!!!
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