8sp DCT Transmission issues
#322
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Check out the review. They start praising the transmission in the 4th paragraph. Why aren't they seeing what we're seeing?
Review: 2015 Acura TLX 2.4L Tech | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews
Review: 2015 Acura TLX 2.4L Tech | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews
2015 Acura TLX I-4 review notes | Autoweek
In my case, it occurs mostly in Sport mode, hardly ever in normal mode (I don't use econ mode). Right now it's more of an aggravation, but I still want the programming fixed since I prefer to drive in Sport.
Anyway, if he was driving aggressively and mostly in Sport+, he might not have noticed any significant problem. And who knows, he might be getting some kickbacks for writing a positive review.
#323
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Check out the review. They start praising the transmission in the 4th paragraph. Why aren't they seeing what we're seeing?
Review: 2015 Acura TLX 2.4L Tech | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews
Review: 2015 Acura TLX 2.4L Tech | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews
#324
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Perhaps because he was driving the snot out of it. As he said, "Sport+ and manual shifting are encouraged for the most engaging experience". Heck, mine is fantastic in this mode, no problems at all. However, the low speed hiccups manifest themselves in full auto mode, as described in the following:
2015 Acura TLX I-4 review notes | Autoweek
In my case, it occurs mostly in Sport mode, hardly ever in normal mode (I don't use econ mode). Right now it's more of an aggravation, but I still want the programming fixed since I prefer to drive in Sport.
Anyway, if he was driving aggressively and mostly in Sport+, he might not have noticed any significant problem. And who knows, he might be getting some kickbacks for writing a positive review.
2015 Acura TLX I-4 review notes | Autoweek
In my case, it occurs mostly in Sport mode, hardly ever in normal mode (I don't use econ mode). Right now it's more of an aggravation, but I still want the programming fixed since I prefer to drive in Sport.
Anyway, if he was driving aggressively and mostly in Sport+, he might not have noticed any significant problem. And who knows, he might be getting some kickbacks for writing a positive review.
#325
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Software Update
I just did a new software update on my TLX 8 speed DCT today.
Version-DFA560
Part number 37805-RDF-A56 released on Wednesday.
So far so good, no lurching, immediate downshifts and better response from the paddle shifters. This latest version should be out in the U.S. as well. I also performed the idle learning procedure afterward. I hope this update will work for others too.
Good Luck!
Version-DFA560
Part number 37805-RDF-A56 released on Wednesday.
So far so good, no lurching, immediate downshifts and better response from the paddle shifters. This latest version should be out in the U.S. as well. I also performed the idle learning procedure afterward. I hope this update will work for others too.
Good Luck!
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#326
I just did a new software update on my TLX 8 speed DCT today.
Version-DFA560
Part number 37805-RDF-A56 released on Wednesday.
So far so good, no lurching, immediate downshifts and better response from the paddle shifters. This latest version should be out in the U.S. as well. I also performed the idle learning procedure afterward. I hope this update will work for others too.
Good Luck!
Version-DFA560
Part number 37805-RDF-A56 released on Wednesday.
So far so good, no lurching, immediate downshifts and better response from the paddle shifters. This latest version should be out in the U.S. as well. I also performed the idle learning procedure afterward. I hope this update will work for others too.
Good Luck!
I'm also wondering if outside temperature influences the manifestation of the DCT issue. For example, today was quite warm in Southern Ontario (>13 C at noon) and I didn't notice the weird lurching while coming to a stop. On any other day these past 2 weeks where the mercury has hovered slightly above freezing, the lurching happens at least a few times during my commute.
#327
Dutchy....Thanks for the update and as others stated, please keep us updated. I am hoping this will solve this DCT issue once and for all.
#328
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Thanks for the info. Please keep us up to date on your experience. I hope this update finally resolves the DCT issues for those of us affected! Which dealer in Ontario performed your update? Do all of them know about this already?
I'm also wondering if outside temperature influences the manifestation of the DCT issue. For example, today was quite warm in Southern Ontario (>13 C at noon) and I didn't notice the weird lurching while coming to a stop. On any other day these past 2 weeks where the mercury has hovered slightly above freezing, the lurching happens at least a few times during my commute.
I'm also wondering if outside temperature influences the manifestation of the DCT issue. For example, today was quite warm in Southern Ontario (>13 C at noon) and I didn't notice the weird lurching while coming to a stop. On any other day these past 2 weeks where the mercury has hovered slightly above freezing, the lurching happens at least a few times during my commute.
I did the update myself as I work at a Honda dealer. Our programming tool got the file updates on Wednesday. It is the same tool for Honda/Acura so all dealers should have updated their ECM/PCM programmers this week. This time it feels more than just weather change. The paddle shifting responds instantly to up/down shifts too now, no lurching, etc. It is day 2 since my update and the DCT is behaving nicely.
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I just did a new software update on my TLX 8 speed DCT today.
Version-DFA560
Part number 37805-RDF-A56 released on Wednesday.
So far so good, no lurching, immediate downshifts and better response from the paddle shifters. This latest version should be out in the U.S. as well. I also performed the idle learning procedure afterward. I hope this update will work for others too.
Good Luck!
Version-DFA560
Part number 37805-RDF-A56 released on Wednesday.
So far so good, no lurching, immediate downshifts and better response from the paddle shifters. This latest version should be out in the U.S. as well. I also performed the idle learning procedure afterward. I hope this update will work for others too.
Good Luck!
I did the update myself as I work at a Honda dealer. Our programming tool got the file updates on Wednesday. It is the same tool for Honda/Acura so all dealers should have updated their ECM/PCM programmers this week. This time it feels more than just weather change. The paddle shifting responds instantly to up/down shifts too now, no lurching, etc. It is day 2 since my update and the DCT is behaving nicely.
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#332
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Thanks Dutchy and EE4 - sounds like good news!
#333
I did the update myself as I work at a Honda dealer. Our programming tool got the file updates on Wednesday. It is the same tool for Honda/Acura so all dealers should have updated their ECM/PCM programmers this week. This time it feels more than just weather change. The paddle shifting responds instantly to up/down shifts too now, no lurching, etc. It is day 2 since my update and the DCT is behaving nicely.
I hope the problems are banished for good and all of us owners can finally have some peace of mind with the car!
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See the 2015 Acura TLX TSB thread for details.
https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...letins-914607/
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#335
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TSB 15-021 - Transmission Slips or Shifts Hard When Cold was released today. Per the TSB, the program part number is 37805-RDF-A560 (program ID is A560).
See the 2015 Acura TLX TSB thread for details.
https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...letins-914607/
See the 2015 Acura TLX TSB thread for details.
https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...letins-914607/
SYMPTOM
The 8-speed dual-clutch transmission (DCT) slips or shifts hard when cold, usually on 1st to 2nd up shifts. The client may also report about feeling bumped or jerked once the vehicle has come to a stop. After the transmission warms up, it shifts normally.
We have a winner!
I may take mine in for the first oil change a little early to get this one done! Plus the nav update and the cross traffic TSB. I suspect they'll have my car for a day or two at this rate.
#336
Racer
Not sure it's a winner for some of us. First of all, many of us notice it when cold, but also to a lesser extent when warmed up (TSB says "After the transmission warms up it shifts normally"). Secondly, the applicable VIN numbers are FA000001-FA011573. Mine is FA014597 which is outside the range. By the way, my build date was around 2/2/15.
Oh well, I had a day or so of high expectations - guess I'll just go back to wishing.
My dealer is having a welcoming get-together later this month to meet the service personnel and get questions answered one on one. I'll check with them then. Luckily, mine isn't so horrible that I have to have something done immediately.
Oh well, I had a day or so of high expectations - guess I'll just go back to wishing.
My dealer is having a welcoming get-together later this month to meet the service personnel and get questions answered one on one. I'll check with them then. Luckily, mine isn't so horrible that I have to have something done immediately.
#337
Racer
Nomad346, in looking at past posts I notice that your build date is also Feb2015 (same as mine), so you may be in the same boat re VIN numbers.
Please keep us informed after you correspond with your dealer.
Thanks
Please keep us informed after you correspond with your dealer.
Thanks
#338
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Not sure it's a winner for some of us. First of all, many of us notice it when cold, but also to a lesser extent when warmed up (TSB says "After the transmission warms up it shifts normally"). Secondly, the applicable VIN numbers are FA000001-FA011573. Mine is FA014597 which is outside the range. By the way, my build date was around 2/2/15.
Oh well, I had a day or so of high expectations - guess I'll just go back to wishing.
My dealer is having a welcoming get-together later this month to meet the service personnel and get questions answered one on one. I'll check with them then. Luckily, mine isn't so horrible that I have to have something done immediately.
Oh well, I had a day or so of high expectations - guess I'll just go back to wishing.
My dealer is having a welcoming get-together later this month to meet the service personnel and get questions answered one on one. I'll check with them then. Luckily, mine isn't so horrible that I have to have something done immediately.
I wonder what the "clutch break in procedure is?
#339
Racer
Glad you're one of the winners, Cheesey.
Actually, the TSB may show some progress - they're starting to show some formal recognition that there may be some reprogramming required as real world data show up. Hope so.
Actually, the TSB may show some progress - they're starting to show some formal recognition that there may be some reprogramming required as real world data show up. Hope so.
#340
I plan to take my vehicle in on Friday and will let you know how it went
#341
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The TSB doesn't include Canadian VINs which number FA80XXXX so I don't know if the dealer will apply it. But I am hopeful since Dutchy, another fellow Canadian TLX owner, said Ontario Acura dealers got it already.
I plan to take my vehicle in on Friday and will let you know how it went
I plan to take my vehicle in on Friday and will let you know how it went
#342
Well, I went from really excited to really disappointed pretty quickly when I realized my VIN was just outside the range in the TSB.
So am I pretty much out of luck then?
As aggravating as the jerkiness and everything has been, I've been holding out hope that soon enough the "fix" would be available and all would be good.
So, it's a bit of a letdown when this "fix" is finally available, but not for me
So am I pretty much out of luck then?
As aggravating as the jerkiness and everything has been, I've been holding out hope that soon enough the "fix" would be available and all would be good.
So, it's a bit of a letdown when this "fix" is finally available, but not for me
#344
Do you know if this is the same as the update that the Acura tech line suggested about a month ago? Or is it a new one? Or the same update, just released as a TSB now. I see on the TSB it says "Database update 17-Mar-2015 or later"
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#345
Dutchy, do you know affected Canadian VINs? Thanks.
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#347
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This update was just released last Wednesday.
#348
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I was all excited when I saw this TSB released, and e-mailed my service manager to get it updated on my car. He just e-mailed me back and said that the TSB is really just the official release of the 2-2-15 update (2nd software update) that some of us have received through Acura TechLine. I can tell you that it DOES NOT fix the hard clunk from R to D, I still experience that. It also does not completely resolve the shifting when cold. It is better but not a complete fix. Since the update, I have not experienced the hard shift into first as I come to a stop, but I know others still do, who have this update.
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I was all excited when I saw this TSB released, and e-mailed my service manager to get it updated on my car. He just e-mailed me back and said that the TSB is really just the official release of the 2-2-15 update (2nd software update) that some of us have received through Acura TechLine. I can tell you that it DOES NOT fix the hard clunk from R to D, I still experience that. It also does not completely resolve the shifting when cold. It is better but not a complete fix. Since the update, I have not experienced the hard shift into first as I come to a stop, but I know others still do, who have this update.
The TSB has two parts...update the PCM A/T software and do the clutch break-in procedure twice.
We would need confirmation that dealers did both parts of the TSB with the pre-release software, instead of just updating the software. That could make a difference.
#351
Thanks for the info from your dealer.
The TSB has two parts...update the PCM A/T software and do the clutch break-in procedure twice.
We would need confirmation that dealers did both parts of the TSB with the pre-release software, instead of just updating the software. That could make a difference.
The TSB has two parts...update the PCM A/T software and do the clutch break-in procedure twice.
We would need confirmation that dealers did both parts of the TSB with the pre-release software, instead of just updating the software. That could make a difference.
#352
I was all excited when I saw this TSB released, and e-mailed my service manager to get it updated on my car. He just e-mailed me back and said that the TSB is really just the official release of the 2-2-15 update (2nd software update) that some of us have received through Acura TechLine. I can tell you that it DOES NOT fix the hard clunk from R to D, I still experience that. It also does not completely resolve the shifting when cold. It is better but not a complete fix. Since the update, I have not experienced the hard shift into first as I come to a stop, but I know others still do, who have this update.
#353
NRS78...Are you sure you got the same software update? Why did some just state that this software update just got released less than 2 weeks ago, yet yours was done in February? Any chance that this software update is not what you got done?
Darn it Acura....why is there so much confusion. One and correct software update....get it straight.
Darn it Acura....why is there so much confusion. One and correct software update....get it straight.
#354
NRS78...Are you sure you got the same software update? Why did some just state that this software update just got released less than 2 weeks ago, yet yours was done in February? Any chance that this software update is not what you got done?
Darn it Acura....why is there so much confusion. One and correct software update....get it straight.
Darn it Acura....why is there so much confusion. One and correct software update....get it straight.
I don't know. I'm just going on what I have been told by my service manager. It is frustrating.
#355
I appreciate your answer...and I can feel your frustration as with most other members having issues with their Trannies.
Our little 5-speed 2.0L ILX is behaving flawlessly and exhibiting more power than what the ratings would suggest. I am not regretting holding off getting the TLX seeing all these non resolved issues. I know IT WILL be fixed but I am shocked its taking this long.
Our little 5-speed 2.0L ILX is behaving flawlessly and exhibiting more power than what the ratings would suggest. I am not regretting holding off getting the TLX seeing all these non resolved issues. I know IT WILL be fixed but I am shocked its taking this long.
#356
I was all excited when I saw this TSB released, and e-mailed my service manager to get it updated on my car. He just e-mailed me back and said that the TSB is really just the official release of the 2-2-15 update (2nd software update) that some of us have received through Acura TechLine. I can tell you that it DOES NOT fix the hard clunk from R to D, I still experience that. It also does not completely resolve the shifting when cold. It is better but not a complete fix. Since the update, I have not experienced the hard shift into first as I come to a stop, but I know others still do, who have this update.
Excited to here about this though. Hopefully it will help as I continue with the same issues. Just looked at my vin and I'm 000353 (wow I was early on this train) so I qualify.
Once done I will provide updates. Thanks for this new info guys. Off to the shop!!!
#358
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Actually I don't think that's true. I looked at my old paper work and the early February update was dfa550 (not dfa560) and the it was 37805-rdf-a55 not (a56). So I think this one is new.
Excited to here about this though. Hopefully it will help as I continue with the same issues. Just looked at my vin and I'm 000353 (wow I was early on this train) so I qualify.
Once done I will provide updates. Thanks for this new info guys. Off to the shop!!!
Excited to here about this though. Hopefully it will help as I continue with the same issues. Just looked at my vin and I'm 000353 (wow I was early on this train) so I qualify.
Once done I will provide updates. Thanks for this new info guys. Off to the shop!!!
Regarding the R to D clunk that others have issue with - I pause for a second in N then shift into D and it never clunks into gear anymore. A workaround I can live with.
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#359
I had my vehicle in the shop on 4/13-4/16 and was told by the service manager that they might try doing the breaking twice. He said there were no TSB's on the vehicle and that the update mentioned above was done to my vehicle back in March. When done it worked great but has progressively gotten choppy again. That is what it was in for!
I also spoke to the Acura Client Relations Rep on the 15th and he was a bit arrogant and said that nothing could be done to my car. At the dealership they talked with the Tech line twice on the 15th or so they said.
How do they communicate? My vehicle is one of the ones on the VIN list as well??
I have a message in to try and get it done again... Man!
I also spoke to the Acura Client Relations Rep on the 15th and he was a bit arrogant and said that nothing could be done to my car. At the dealership they talked with the Tech line twice on the 15th or so they said.
How do they communicate? My vehicle is one of the ones on the VIN list as well??
I have a message in to try and get it done again... Man!
#360
Thanks for being an early adopter! I'm sitting at 40% oil life so will likely wait for reports on how effective the TSB is before pushing the issue with my service guys. That said - the hard 1 to 2 shift in the mornings is getting on my nerves more because I think about it now! I'll be happy if we can smooth that out.
Regarding the R to D clunk that others have issue with - I pause for a second in N then shift into D and it never clunks into gear anymore. A workaround I can live with.
Regarding the R to D clunk that others have issue with - I pause for a second in N then shift into D and it never clunks into gear anymore. A workaround I can live with.
I have to try that trick and see how it works, still I hope the TSB resolves this issue as it is unacceptable.