Ktuner- The first tuning solution for the 4G TL
06-14-2015, 10:32 PM
#41
Hey guys, I just saw this thread now and I would like to first say that this is fkn awesome!! Thank you Ktuner for finally solving this motor for our 4G TL's! I think we can all say that we greatly appreciate it.
My main question is and I'm sorry if it has been somewhat answered already but I was a little confused with some of the info here. But my question is: do we NEED to have the car dyno tuned or e-tuned with the user end kit? Or does this just provide even more gains? Say I set the tune to one of the programmed settings would I still see the gains or do I need to have the car tuned from a shop as well?
Thanks everyone in advance!! Can't wait to buy one of these.
My main question is and I'm sorry if it has been somewhat answered already but I was a little confused with some of the info here. But my question is: do we NEED to have the car dyno tuned or e-tuned with the user end kit? Or does this just provide even more gains? Say I set the tune to one of the programmed settings would I still see the gains or do I need to have the car tuned from a shop as well?
Thanks everyone in advance!! Can't wait to buy one of these.
06-15-2015, 05:10 AM
#42
^^ Hope this will clarify your confusion. From the info I received and my understanding of it, the base map provided is basically the stock parameters of the ECU.Your tuner will custom tune your car by using this base software to adjust the parameters within the ECU to provide optimum performance based on the mods you have via an E Tune or a dyno tune.To get the best results from these types of software it is best to have the car tuned by someone competent even if your car is stock.However, if you plan to do other performance mods then you should do them first or you will have to re tune after any additions. Dyno tuning can be very costly.
An E Tune is basically an exchange of info (Emails based on data logging ) between you and your tuner, this can go on for a considerable time ( days/weeks) until the tune is complete.
On the dyno,your tuner will be able to completely tune your car within 3 to 4 hours as he /she can analyse the data in real time,most time after the dyno tune the tuner will also test drive the car to do some fine tuning on the fly. The dyno will also provide you with a printout of base runs vs runs with the tune on which you will see the difference the tune made.
Hope I have explained it completely and perhaps other can chime in and shed more light.
An E Tune is basically an exchange of info (Emails based on data logging ) between you and your tuner, this can go on for a considerable time ( days/weeks) until the tune is complete.
On the dyno,your tuner will be able to completely tune your car within 3 to 4 hours as he /she can analyse the data in real time,most time after the dyno tune the tuner will also test drive the car to do some fine tuning on the fly. The dyno will also provide you with a printout of base runs vs runs with the tune on which you will see the difference the tune made.
Hope I have explained it completely and perhaps other can chime in and shed more light.
06-15-2015, 07:46 AM
#43
There is the factory tune and a base tune included. Tuning will provide more gains. Because we've seen intakes for this platform throw fueling off up to 20% it's best to get tuned or e-tuned to clean that up. The base tune has been kept conservative because of the intakes being so poorly designed, but you will certainly feel a noticeable difference even without further tuning.
The ECU will attempt to correct fueling, but it's not perfect at doing so when the MAF curve has been compromised.
The ECU will attempt to correct fueling, but it's not perfect at doing so when the MAF curve has been compromised.
06-15-2015, 09:59 AM
#44
There is the factory tune and a base tune included. Tuning will provide more gains. Because we've seen intakes for this platform throw fueling off up to 20% it's best to get tuned or e-tuned to clean that up. The base tune has been kept conservative because of the intakes being so poorly designed, but you will certainly feel a noticeable difference even without further tuning.
The ECU will attempt to correct fueling, but it's not perfect at doing so when the MAF curve has been compromised.
The ECU will attempt to correct fueling, but it's not perfect at doing so when the MAF curve has been compromised.
How much more? Approximately 5%?
06-15-2015, 02:35 PM
#45
Hey guys, I just saw this thread now and I would like to first say that this is fkn awesome!! Thank you Ktuner for finally solving this motor for our 4G TL's! I think we can all say that we greatly appreciate it.
My main question is and I'm sorry if it has been somewhat answered already but I was a little confused with some of the info here. But my question is: do we NEED to have the car dyno tuned or e-tuned with the user end kit? Or does this just provide even more gains? Say I set the tune to one of the programmed settings would I still see the gains or do I need to have the car tuned from a shop as well?
Thanks everyone in advance!! Can't wait to buy one of these.
My main question is and I'm sorry if it has been somewhat answered already but I was a little confused with some of the info here. But my question is: do we NEED to have the car dyno tuned or e-tuned with the user end kit? Or does this just provide even more gains? Say I set the tune to one of the programmed settings would I still see the gains or do I need to have the car tuned from a shop as well?
Thanks everyone in advance!! Can't wait to buy one of these.
He said the ktuner flash kit comes with the hardware needed to flash the vehicle with a basemap from the ktuner software. He recommended a dyno tune or remote etune for the best results.
I am going to call him after pay day and order one for my wife's car :-)
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06-15-2015, 03:58 PM
#47
I called xlr8 earlier today. Spoke to some guy that was clueless.
Then I called phearable.net and they answered all my questions.
I don't know if I spoke to someone that is just a helper at xlr8 or if they don't really tune cars or what.
Anyways i can't wait to get mine in.
Then I called phearable.net and they answered all my questions.
I don't know if I spoke to someone that is just a helper at xlr8 or if they don't really tune cars or what.
Anyways i can't wait to get mine in.
06-15-2015, 04:10 PM
#48
Former Sponsor
Thank you for your business!! It just shipped a little while ago. Definitely write a review for us so we have some feedback.
I called xlr8 earlier today. Spoke to some guy that was clueless.
Then I called phearable.net and they answered all my questions.
I don't know if I spoke to someone that is just a helper at xlr8 or if they don't really tune cars or what.
Anyways i can't wait to get mine in.
Then I called phearable.net and they answered all my questions.
I don't know if I spoke to someone that is just a helper at xlr8 or if they don't really tune cars or what.
Anyways i can't wait to get mine in.
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06-15-2015, 06:13 PM
#49
I am very much ready to order this from XLR8 once some feedback rolls in.
My mods are simple, but I love them:
1. CT Icebox
2. XLR8 V2 J Pipe
If this tune can be plug and play and gives me at least 10WHP/10WTQ, I am in!!!
My mods are simple, but I love them:
1. CT Icebox
2. XLR8 V2 J Pipe
If this tune can be plug and play and gives me at least 10WHP/10WTQ, I am in!!!
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06-15-2015, 09:32 PM
#50
I'll write a review after. Current mods are light weight crank pulley, p2r intake and throttle body spacers and thermal gaskets takeda intake coolant bypass on tb, sprint booster, xlr8 jpipe hfpc and magnaflow mufflers, I plan to upgrade to xlr8 cat back soon.
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06-15-2015, 09:36 PM
#51
I called xlr8 earlier today. Spoke to some guy that was clueless.
Then I called phearable.net and they answered all my questions.
I don't know if I spoke to someone that is just a helper at xlr8 or if they don't really tune cars or what.
Anyways i can't wait to get mine in.
Then I called phearable.net and they answered all my questions.
I don't know if I spoke to someone that is just a helper at xlr8 or if they don't really tune cars or what.
Anyways i can't wait to get mine in.
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ExcelerateRep (06-19-2015)
06-17-2015, 06:15 PM
#52
Some info for the Canadian Azine family....Apart from the exchange rate of approx $1.25 Can to $1 USD and the shipping,expect to pay approx. $75 Can in duties.
If you opt for a dyno tune it will run approx $600 Can. It definitely adds up. However,considering an exhaust system that offers minimal gains will cost more than a complete tune which should give our car optimal performance,one can make the argument that it's money well spent.
Regardless of the reason, I received mine today and look foward to installation in the near future,thanks KTuner &TurboGixxer.
If you opt for a dyno tune it will run approx $600 Can. It definitely adds up. However,considering an exhaust system that offers minimal gains will cost more than a complete tune which should give our car optimal performance,one can make the argument that it's money well spent.
Regardless of the reason, I received mine today and look foward to installation in the near future,thanks KTuner &TurboGixxer.
Last edited by KarKraze; 06-17-2015 at 06:22 PM.
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06-17-2015, 08:18 PM
#53
Instructor
Some info for the Canadian Azine family....Apart from the exchange rate of approx $1.25 Can to $1 USD and the shipping,expect to pay approx. $75 Can in duties.
If you opt for a dyno tune it will run approx $600 Can. It definitely adds up. However,considering an exhaust system that offers minimal gains will cost more than a complete tune which should give our car optimal performance,one can make the argument that it's money well spent.
Regardless of the reason, I received mine today and look foward to installation in the near future,thanks KTuner &TurboGixxer.
If you opt for a dyno tune it will run approx $600 Can. It definitely adds up. However,considering an exhaust system that offers minimal gains will cost more than a complete tune which should give our car optimal performance,one can make the argument that it's money well spent.
Regardless of the reason, I received mine today and look foward to installation in the near future,thanks KTuner &TurboGixxer.
That is good to know.
$600 cad isn't bad actually considering Hondata starts at $695 usd...
My goal is to get 250whp =D
06-17-2015, 10:00 PM
#55
Racer
KarKraze,
Did you find anyone local that could tune it for us? I also purchased one and will be eager to get it tuned. Maybe if both of us go to a same tuner we can get a better deal? I am pretty ecstatic that someone has finally done this.
Did you find anyone local that could tune it for us? I also purchased one and will be eager to get it tuned. Maybe if both of us go to a same tuner we can get a better deal? I am pretty ecstatic that someone has finally done this.
06-18-2015, 05:08 AM
#57
.I spoke to several well known tuning shops. There is one issue or another,several don't have an AWD Dyno but would do a street tune, some said they were not familiar with the product etc. The reason I spoke to several shops was to get an opportunity to speak with the tuner and make sure I could be confident that the car is in capable hands.
That said, my first choice was and still is APH. I spoke to them several times, I will also be speaking to them today and will certainly tell them that others have expressed interest in having their cars done.If you all wish to send me a PM with your name it would be great. That way I can pass it on in reference.
Last edited by KarKraze; 06-18-2015 at 05:11 AM.
06-18-2015, 06:59 AM
#58
Dammm ,the Canadians are doing it right .
I spoke to several well known tuning shops. There is one issue or another,several don't have an AWD Dyno but would do a street tune, some said they were not familiar with the product etc. The reason I spoke to several shops was to get an opportunity to speak with the tuner and make sure I could be confident that the car is in capable hands.
That said, my first choice was and still is APH. I spoke to them several times, I will also be speaking to them today and will certainly tell them that others have expressed interest in having their cars done.If you all wish to send me a PM with your name it would be great. That way I can pass it on in reference.
.I spoke to several well known tuning shops. There is one issue or another,several don't have an AWD Dyno but would do a street tune, some said they were not familiar with the product etc. The reason I spoke to several shops was to get an opportunity to speak with the tuner and make sure I could be confident that the car is in capable hands.
That said, my first choice was and still is APH. I spoke to them several times, I will also be speaking to them today and will certainly tell them that others have expressed interest in having their cars done.If you all wish to send me a PM with your name it would be great. That way I can pass it on in reference.
06-18-2015, 08:24 PM
#59
Instructor
but its definitely cheaper than what hondata is looking for.
I'm happy about the pricing, but I want the better exchange first...
Can't wait to hear about this....
*patiently waiting*
06-19-2015, 11:08 AM
#60
Former Sponsor
06-19-2015, 11:10 AM
#61
So does this mean the CT Icebox didnt cause issues with the MAF and is in fact a solid intake?
I love mine. Throttle response is ever so more crisp with the CT-E.
06-19-2015, 01:28 PM
#62
That doesn't mean you have to... the ECU will compensate to some extent if you don't have a custom tune done to correct it, but it will throw the fueling off just as it is doing now on the stock tune.
06-19-2015, 04:11 PM
#63
The Icebox MAF housing is incorrectly sized. They also appear to not all be identical as far as how much it throws the MAF off. As you'll see stated in the software custom tuning is advised for these intakes with poorly designed MAF housings.
That doesn't mean you have to... the ECU will compensate to some extent if you don't have a custom tune done to correct it, but it will throw the fueling off just as it is doing now on the stock tune.
That doesn't mean you have to... the ECU will compensate to some extent if you don't have a custom tune done to correct it, but it will throw the fueling off just as it is doing now on the stock tune.
I personally don't like how it's a foam filter, but had plans to buy and swap for a K&N replacement cone style filter...
My personal goal is HP, reliability, and feel/sound in order of importance.
06-19-2015, 04:18 PM
#64
I recommend at the very least having a tuner check that you're not running leaner or richer than intended with the base tune. If you're getting tuned beyond the basemap you're already in a position to run any intake you want for the tuning process since that will get corrected if it's off. Those who stick with the factory MAF housing don't have to worry as fueling should be on point unless there's some other failure in the system such as fuel pressure, injector, O2 sensor, etc.
06-21-2015, 02:17 AM
#65
So I got mine and I did it myself. I recommend it to anyone that is interested in this product. Its safe and amazing ! Thank you Ktuner!
06-21-2015, 06:23 AM
#66
[QUOTE=vtec314;15474331]So I got mine and I did it myself. I recommend it to anyone that is interested in this product. Its safe and amazing ! Thank you Ktuner
Could you share the performance mods that you have installed? it would help members compare mods on their vehicle.
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06-21-2015, 12:52 PM
#68
The Original Shawdy
Also are you running their base tune or get it tuned?
06-22-2015, 04:40 PM
#70
Intermediate
06-22-2015, 06:09 PM
#71
Senior Moderator
any update on if the speed limiter was defeated? Also will it have a feature to turn off the CEL due to cat deletes and/or EGR delete?
06-22-2015, 08:15 PM
#72
There's a list of features on the website and that's mentioned there as well.
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06-23-2015, 10:54 AM
#73
Former Sponsor
These are listed on the Ktuner website as all being included in the end-user kit for the 4G TL:
Real-Time Logging
Injector Sizing
Ignition/Fuel Tuning
Knock Tuning
Rev Limiter Settings
2-Step Settings
Custom Map Sensor Support
VTEC Window Control
Closed Loop Control
Disable Sensors and OBD2 Monitors
Fuel Cut Parameters
Fuel Correction Parameters
Ignition Correction Parameters
Idle Control Parameters
Real-Time Logging
Injector Sizing
Ignition/Fuel Tuning
Knock Tuning
Rev Limiter Settings
2-Step Settings
Custom Map Sensor Support
VTEC Window Control
Closed Loop Control
Disable Sensors and OBD2 Monitors
Fuel Cut Parameters
Fuel Correction Parameters
Ignition Correction Parameters
Idle Control Parameters
06-23-2015, 11:24 AM
#74
These are listed on the Ktuner website as all being included in the end-user kit for the 4G TL:
Real-Time Logging
Injector Sizing
Ignition/Fuel Tuning
Knock Tuning
Rev Limiter Settings
2-Step Settings
Custom Map Sensor Support
VTEC Window Control
Closed Loop Control
Disable Sensors and OBD2 Monitors
Fuel Cut Parameters
Fuel Correction Parameters
Ignition Correction Parameters
Idle Control Parameters
Real-Time Logging
Injector Sizing
Ignition/Fuel Tuning
Knock Tuning
Rev Limiter Settings
2-Step Settings
Custom Map Sensor Support
VTEC Window Control
Closed Loop Control
Disable Sensors and OBD2 Monitors
Fuel Cut Parameters
Fuel Correction Parameters
Ignition Correction Parameters
Idle Control Parameters
06-23-2015, 04:46 PM
#77
Former Sponsor
Here is the website link:
09-14 TL | KTuner, LLC
The ones not in the released column at this time are injector sizing, custom map sensor support, closed loop control, and disable sensors/obd2 monitors. We can expect these to be available soon, they are all in beta.
Last edited by ExcelerateRep; 06-23-2015 at 04:48 PM.
06-23-2015, 07:46 PM
#79
Racer
Hello,
I just got the Ktuner, connected it all works great except I can not do fuel tuning? Can you guys see the fuel tuning table on your software? I can only select ignition, and some other options but no fuel?
My ecu is in the proper range as compatible, the proper tune is opened. It is missing in both the base factory tune, and the base with intake/exhaust.
Please help with any suggestions.
I just got the Ktuner, connected it all works great except I can not do fuel tuning? Can you guys see the fuel tuning table on your software? I can only select ignition, and some other options but no fuel?
My ecu is in the proper range as compatible, the proper tune is opened. It is missing in both the base factory tune, and the base with intake/exhaust.
Please help with any suggestions.
06-23-2015, 10:42 PM
#80
The Original Shawdy
The more I read the more closer I am to pulling the trigger.