docboy

I just saw this thread, and it sounds pretty awesome.

What are potential gains with the tune? For example as a performance metric, the TL 6MT has 0-60 times of 5.2-5.5 seconds. With said tune, would it potentially drop the 0-60 below 5 seconds? Would it give more torque at 2K-3K rpms? Thanks.

14thandeuclid

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT, Give us better MPG too !!

91lgndsdn

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT

kevin86

have flashpro for my supercharged acura csx. so if they make a flashpro for the 4g tl 3.7, i'd totally be down to get it.

ATLBuckeye

Use the list

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

So I've received some more communication from HONDATA. Basically they have a full plate with R&D and there's a long list of vehicles and parts on that list. However, they said that they will be reviewing that last in April. At that time we should have a rough idea of where we stand and when the project could be completed. Once I have that info we can begin taking deposits and establishing pricing, timelines, product info, etc.

Skier4lyfe303

iTrader: (32)

Put your name and car info on the list

In general, just tuning a stock car isn't going to make your car faster/gain you a lot of WHP (wheel horse power). To take advantage of a tune you need performance parts. Think upgraded cams, PnP intake manifold/runners/heads, bigger intake/exhaust, ect. Even a supercharger or turbo(s) if you really want some HP.

Say you have a SH-AWD MT TL, its fully bolted on (cat back exhaust, J-pipe, HFPC's, CAI intake, bored TB and PnP Runners). With a tune you could gain around 20-30WHP, when comparing pre-tune WHP numbers to after tune WHP numbers.

A CT supercharger with a tune on a otherwise stock car should gain around 70WHP.

Put your name and car info on the list too

Brock79

^^^^ where do you get these numbers? By the way there are no cams for the TL that I'm aware of it, it's stock or nothing. Also I'm not aware that there are larger injectors available either which you would need with a supercharger if that prototype ever came full circle.

MugenSi08

Had flashpro on my mugen si. Loved it! so easy to use

MugenSi08

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. MugenSi08 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT

Skier4lyfe303

iTrader: (32)

These are guesstimates, not actual numbers but they should resemble what you would actually see (I had a supercharger on my otherwise stock 04 TL which I netted 60WHP with a tune with the MS3/J&R ECU). The flashpro will net a bit more power (more things can be adjusted with the flashpro vs MS3) and most people are closer to sea level (unlike myself) which will also net higher gains.

I also had a built J35 (PnP heads/intake manifold/runners, bisimoto Type S cams, supertech valve train) which I netted 20WHP just by tuning via flashpro (stock J35 ECU vs tuned with flashpro). This was a J32A3 engine with J35 bottom end (crank, pistions and rods), although the compression was lower than stock, 9:5:1 in this case.

As for the 4th gen TL, I too haven't seen any cams available yet. I know bisimoto, webcams (who regrinds for bisimoto) or someone else could regrind stock cams to make a little power.

Larger injectors are fairly easy; can get a pigtail harness to make aftermarket injectors plug & plug, cut and splice stock harness to support aftermarket injectors, larger OEM injectors (RDX) or modify OEM TL injectors to suit your needs.

2010Diamond4G

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH_AWD 3.7 AT

Brock79

I'm not all that familiar with the injector sizes for Hondas\Acura, but I would assume the 3.7 SH AWD engine or the RLX engine would have the largest injectors available. Going off your numbers listed above at a 80 hp gain, I would think any stock injectors would be to small. What about a larger fuel pump? And the fuel rail? Do you have return system on the typeS? 20 hp doesn't sound like a lot but I guess if your grinding stock cams it's pretty good. My Cobra with a Comp Cam swap and tune picked up 60HP alone, without any other bolt ons. I guess these TL engines aren't tuner friendly or the parts and tune are inferior to other products. The V6 mustang and newer V6 Camaro see gains of 120-150 hp with cams, intake manifold and supercharger. Why can't these TL engines see these kind of gains?

elietania

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH_AWD 3.7 AT
54.elietania -09 tl sh awd 3.7 at

kevin86

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT

Skier4lyfe303

iTrader: (32)

I was using stock 3G TL injectors and fuel pump on both my supercharged engine and my NA 3.5 engine.

3.7L TL injectors are 400CC's as mentioned here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/3g-tl-parts-sale-atlp-roof-spoiler-window-visors-lower-grills-denso-injectors-more-856032/

Turbo RDX (07-12) injectors are 410cc (do a quick Google search if wanted)

RLX is a 3.5L, although I'm not sure of the injector size but I would think they are smaller than the 3.7L TL.

Fuel pump is most likely similar to the 3G TL (must take apart stock pump, modify it and then install aftermarket fuel pump in stock housing)

Fuel rails are the same as the 3G TL (P2R sells these)

I didn't have a custom fuel set up on any engine I had.

As for gains on a TL vs American Muscle, the aftermarket support for American Muscle is much greater than the TL. So yes, I would say the range/quality (based on performance gains) of parts is greater for American cars.

As for tuner friendly, that's what this whole thread is about. To get flashpro for the 4G TL, so we can tune.

PM me if you have more questions.

TolisTL

Add me to that list:

TolisTL - 13 Acura TL-SH AWD - 3.7 AT and lets get the flashpro going I need more power I'm boreeeed

Brock79

if you didn't have to upgrade your fuel system, then two things happened. The actual SC application is overpriced and underpowered or the tuning of the 3G is not great and needs more work or the engine is not tuner friendly.
The size and availability of aftermarket parts for American muscle has nothing to do with it. Any supercharger or Turbo you throw on a Mustang for example is going to net you at least 100hp. That's on the 3.7 V6 mustang. The TL just isn't designed for a great tune and SC from what I see. The 3.5 twin turbo in my sho can be tuned to achieve 480 Hp on a tune alone with no others mods, from a stock 365. More if you swap the turbines and do a few other mods, yes I know the engine us turboed already but you get the idea. The two engines I noted are both V6 engines.

Skier4lyfe303

iTrader: (32)

Yes the SC is underpowered and tuning with the MS3 which I used to tune it (was best thing available at the time, Hondata is worlds better) is not very good.

The amount of aftermarket support has everything to do with it. There are multiple brands and versions of superchargers for American cars (making each other build better kits and get those numbers). There is one kit from one manufacture for the 3G TL (CT), therefore there is no competition. Its an M62 Eaton blower which was underpowered for the 3G TL. So Paul (member NVA-V6) retrofitted a M90 Eaton blower on the 3.2 and 3.5 TL engines. CT has said the M90 can't fit under the hood of the 4G TL. Yet that may not be the true answer. It could be simply because it is easier for CT to only sell M62 blowers (makes inventory/purchasing a lot easier and cheaper).

Now if you want to go turbo, then you open up the true power potential of the J series. This one is putting down over 700WHP:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/turbo-3-5l-j-series-v6-high-cr-build-700-whp-901774/

SDODR

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT

23109VC

just hurry up and make this fucking shit...

scotty2hotty

iTrader: (1)

Lookin at your sig, I bet you won't even buy it when it does come out.

KarKraze

Liking these numbers,i hope everyone on the list is willing to put a deposit when it becomes necessary.

Josh....keep leaning on Hondata .

dubpower

I should have bought a RDX ... It would already be in my SUV hehe

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

HONDATA had advised us last month that they would review their list of projects this month and that the owners would discuss this project. Let's hope they can fit us in and we can get some more details. I'm ready when they are assuming everyone on this list comes through.

ATLBuckeye

Josh, i think it may be fair to assume that only 70% of this list will follow through. Plan for it now and we wont get hurt by it later. Plenty of people may not know they are signing up to pay, dont have the requested cash or have dropped off the map and cannot be contacted.

karlito

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT

scotty2hotty

iTrader: (1)

Thanks for the BBK, Josh.

I will also pay for the full amount, up front, if tune becomes reality.

HeartTLs

iTrader: (5)

Clean up~

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT

Brock79

I would out it at 50-60% at best! for immediate purchase.

Brock79

A M90 is a large supercharger, well large for this engine anyways. They are readily available and all over the market. So I don't think that's really the issue, unless CT is overstocked on the M62. I think other things come into play as far as the internals and the block itself.

Strippers4Me

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT

JackCarver

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT

RocknTL

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT

fsttyms1

The M62 is WAY to small for these engines, especially the 3.5 and 3.7, This has been known since the 2nd gen CL/TL using the 3.2. The M90 is the size that CT should have used for the J and makes more power with just the low boost pulley than the 62 does with the high with far less intake temps. There is nothing as far as internals that is limiting these engines from making more power. Tuning them is the big factor in holding them back, especially for those looking into FI. The J motor has seen many engines running 500-700 hp with stock internals without issues. The 3.7 has forged internals for strength (not for weight reduction). A larger blower or turbos and a way to tune and you would see a large increase in power.

CruzanTLSH-AWD

Yow whats the update on this?

vtec314

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
63. Vtec314 - 12 TL SH - AWD 3.7 Tech Package, AUTO

vtec314

Whats AT?. MT?

Pandayo

auto and manual.

djtanveer

1. CleanCL - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
2. Skier4lyfe303 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
3. ATLBuckeye - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
4. KarKraze - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
5. HeartTLs - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
6. Sympley - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
7. Jackieee_TL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
8. TL Dawg - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
9. Jackson 90069 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
10. Kahta - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
11. 23109VC - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
12. Blaze9 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
13. JWhite1387 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
14. ucf_bronco - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
15. mafiosi - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
16. CerberusKy - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
17. DrewQ35 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
18. Maxikeem - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
19. civic_ef9 - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
20. jaysuus - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
21. DefMunkie - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
22. Pandayo - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
23. 4GCEL28 - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
24. Eazy - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
25. Prepreludesh - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
26. Types1fan - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
27. CruzanTLSH-AWD - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
28. Acc-Rite - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
29. Manutd - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
30. Viscidity - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
31. slick316 - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
32. BalckSonik - 10 TL FWD 3.5 AT
33. Stars_Fan - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
34. Type-S RPh - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
35. Blkpnthrtl10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
36. Pablo2012TL - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
37. Kuzdu - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
38. jos2138648 - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
39. dubpower - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
40. 00laguna - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
41. B.G. - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
42. waynemar66 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
43. TJ Zooker - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
44. andrewcjduong - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
45. Nealjtan - 11 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
46. AlienStudio - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
47. TeamAcura - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
48. jmkenn0 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
49. FireAtWill - 09 TL FWD 3.5 AT
50. JP_TL_10 - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
51. 14thandEuclid - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
52. 91LgndSdn - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
53. 2010Diamond4G - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
54. elietania - 09 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
55. kevin86 - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
56. SDODR - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
57. karlito - 10 TL SH-AWD 3.7 MT
58. TolisTL - 13 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
59. Mika Guyer - 12 TL FWD 3.5 AT
60. Strippers4Me - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
61. JackCarver - 12 TL SH-AWD 3.7 AT
62. RocknTL - 12 TL SH_AWD 3.7 MT
63. Vtec314 - 12 TL SH - AWD 3.7 Tech Package, AUTO
64. DJTanveer 09 TL 3.5L AT