help, car is swaying left to right

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-09-2017, 10:26 AM
  #1  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
help, car is swaying left to right

Alright so, I have an 05 TL and its been lowered on Tein s tech springs and Truhart shocks. The camber was pretty bad in the rear but there way no swaying or side sway over bumps or dips in the road. I got a set of lower control arms or bars to correct the camber, although it fixed some of the issues it didn't fix any and that's where my car started to sway left to right mostly rear. I then orderd a set of Truhart upper camber kit for the rear and my tires were straight again and could corner good but, the swaying is still there and pretty bad. Not sure if the tires make a difference because I have 245/40/17 not the stock size and I cant for the life of me figure what is causing this problem. Is the shock too soft do I need to go to a more heavy duty type shock? do I need to remove the lower control arms/camber kit and put stock back on? Please if anyone has this problem or ever had it and solved it please help im all ears.

BTW: the car has been aligned and this problem still exist.

Last edited by maverick06xx; 02-09-2017 at 10:39 AM.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:31 AM
  #2  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
you need an alignment....
when you lower the car, you change the suspension's geometry... which will mess up the driving characteristics.

getting an alignment will put the car back to "factory alignment specs"
Old 02-09-2017, 10:37 AM
  #3  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,883
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
+2 alignment.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:37 AM
  #4  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
The alignment has been done, I left that part out above, I will edit this and the car still does what I explained above.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:39 AM
  #5  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
let me see the alignment sheet.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:40 AM
  #6  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
also, if you left the endlinks disconnected from the rear sway bar, the car will sway.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:40 AM
  #7  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I don't have it right off had and never posted pictures but i'll get it.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:42 AM
  #8  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick06xx
I don't have it right off had and never posted pictures but i'll get it.
if the spec's arent correct...you'll get swaying.
thus why i want to see it, JUST to make sure the specs are correct
Old 02-09-2017, 10:42 AM
  #9  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,883
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
then second would be rear sway bar or broken end links



Old 02-09-2017, 10:48 AM
  #10  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by justnspace
also, if you left the endlinks disconnected from the rear sway bar, the car will sway.
they are connected
Old 02-09-2017, 10:49 AM
  #11  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
then second would be rear sway bar or broken end links



\

maybe I should invest in swaybar endlinks but I know someone here has got to have had this happen before.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:50 AM
  #12  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Justn can I email u a copy of my sheet I scanned it but at work right now?
Old 02-09-2017, 10:50 AM
  #13  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,883
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick06xx
\

maybe I should invest in swaybar endlinks but I know someone here has got to have had this happen before.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site...hrome&ie=UTF-8
Old 02-09-2017, 10:57 AM
  #14  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick06xx
Justn can I email u a copy of my sheet I scanned it but at work right now?
justinlukemyers@gmail.com
Old 02-09-2017, 10:58 AM
  #15  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick06xx
\

maybe I should invest in swaybar endlinks but I know someone here has got to have had this happen before.

if your stock OEM ones are connected, then they are not broken.
Old 02-09-2017, 10:59 AM
  #16  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,883
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
something is definitely broken though..
Old 02-09-2017, 11:06 AM
  #17  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
if something was broken I should hear whatever it is making contact with something else or be able to see it
Old 02-09-2017, 11:07 AM
  #18  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
sent u an email justn
Old 02-09-2017, 11:08 AM
  #19  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
WOw! okay, it's not the alignment! as your toe is spot on 0.0!!! that's the best alignment I've ever seen!!!!
(i'm at work, and my work computer is not allowing me to share the pic to this thread)
Old 02-09-2017, 11:11 AM
  #20  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Everything looks good I thought as well any other suggestions?
Old 02-09-2017, 11:11 AM
  #21  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,883
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by justnspace
WOw! okay, it's not the alignment! as your toe is spot on 0.0!!! that's the best alignment I've ever seen!!!!
(i'm at work, and my work computer is not allowing me to share the pic to this thread)
copy image URL?
Old 02-09-2017, 11:16 AM
  #22  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
copy image URL?
i'm using outdated browser on linux...
i'm assuming google is dropping support for older browsers and I cant even log into my photo hosting account
Old 02-09-2017, 02:43 PM
  #23  
6th Gear
 
waldimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
help, car is swaying left to right

remove the lower control arms/camber kit and put stock back on.That fixed my problem with yours car symptoms
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (02-09-2017)
Old 02-09-2017, 02:51 PM
  #24  
6th Gear
 
waldimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Acura's lower control arms will solve the problem
Old 02-09-2017, 02:59 PM
  #25  
6th Gear
 
waldimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
to have alignment in spec keep Truhart upper camber kit, but put back acura"s lower control arms
Old 02-09-2017, 03:06 PM
  #26  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
i wish i had my stockers, dang it. Anyone have a set?
Old 02-09-2017, 03:13 PM
  #27  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
just checked ebay stock set 100 for right side and 100 for left side ouch....anyone have these they want to sell?
Old 02-09-2017, 08:34 PM
  #28  
Safety Car
 
BROlando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,745
Received 1,165 Likes on 876 Posts
Check on bernardiparts.com for your LCA's. I think they're around $70 each.

Are your bushings torn on your aftermarket arms?

Did you tighten all the bolts while the wheels were just drooping? If yes...then...yes, your bushings are torn.
Old 02-10-2017, 10:10 AM
  #29  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Roland_Bluntzs
Check on bernardiparts.com for your LCA's. I think they're around $70 each.

Are your bushings torn on your aftermarket arms?

Did you tighten all the bolts while the wheels were just drooping? If yes...then...yes, your bushings are torn.
all bolts are tighten and both alingment guys says everythingnis good. Do u have a picture of could u post a picture of the bushings u speak of? I will check that site out though.
Old 02-10-2017, 10:14 AM
  #30  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,883
Received 8,584 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick06xx
all bolts are tighten and both alingment guys says everythingnis good. Do u have a picture of could u post a picture of the bushings u speak of? I will check that site out though.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...d-look-707888/

Thread only has ~1300 posts so it's a fairly uncommon issue
Old 02-10-2017, 11:02 AM
  #31  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...d-look-707888/

Thread only has ~1300 posts so it's a fairly uncommon issue
he is referring to the rear not the front as they are new and were replaced in June of last year.
Old 02-10-2017, 11:10 AM
  #32  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Roland_Bluntzs
Check on bernardiparts.com for your LCA's. I think they're around $70 each.

Are your bushings torn on your aftermarket arms?

Did you tighten all the bolts while the wheels were just drooping? If yes...then...yes, your bushings are torn.
I still don't know what bushings you are talking about if anyone has a picture that would be great. I searched and yes 70 to 73 each arm which there are 4 two right and two left.
Old 02-10-2017, 05:56 PM
  #33  
6th Gear
 
waldimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
OK I had the same Problem.Aftermarket lower arms bushings to soft, even not torn .Put back new OEM control lower arms, and the car will drive as new....!!!!
Old 02-10-2017, 06:17 PM
  #34  
Safety Car
 
BROlando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 3,745
Received 1,165 Likes on 876 Posts
Originally Posted by maverick06xx
I still don't know what bushings you are talking about if anyone has a picture that would be great. I searched and yes 70 to 73 each arm which there are 4 two right and two left.
The control arms all have bushings at one or both ends.

They need to be tightened with the car at ride height.

If you tighten them while the car is lifted up on jack stands or a lift... and the wheels are drooping, you will tear the bushings when you put the car down on the ground.
Old 02-10-2017, 09:08 PM
  #35  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Control arms

Originally Posted by waldimir
OK I had the same Problem.Aftermarket lower arms bushings to soft, even not torn .Put back new OEM control lower arms, and the car will drive as new....!!!!
if i can get a stock set i will and replace them. If anyone has any please help ive seen some on ebay in pairs for right side but there is two right and left.
Old 02-11-2017, 10:53 AM
  #36  
Race Director
 
nfnsquared's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAGA country
Posts: 12,474
Received 1,793 Likes on 1,346 Posts
sub'd for final outcome
Old 02-11-2017, 12:39 PM
  #37  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by waldimir
OK I had the same Problem.Aftermarket lower arms bushinpgs to soft, even not torn .Put back new OEM control lower arms, and the car will drive as new....!!!!
so you really had the same problem? What are you lowered on? And you fixed your issue with oem arms?

bluntz have u had this issue? Do you have aftermartket arms? I would imagine the aftermarket arms i had went on loose then sat vehicle on ground then tighten them up.
Old 02-11-2017, 02:41 PM
  #38  
6th Gear
 
waldimir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Yes, i really had the same problem.MY car was all stock, but to correct rear alignment i installed rear camber kit and aftermarket lower control arms.Then the problem begins. My car started all symptoms you described above.I got new OEM lower control arms ,did alignment and now my car drives normal
Old 02-11-2017, 06:36 PM
  #39  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by waldimir
Yes, i really had the same problem.MY car was all stock, but to correct rear alignment i installed rear camber kit and aftermarket lower control arms.Then the problem begins. My car started all symptoms you described above.I got new OEM lower control arms ,did alignment and now my car drives normal
oh so u werent even lowered wow. I looked at the aftermarket ones and it looks like there ia a small gap between where the bolt and washer makes contact with the arms. Ive search on ebay and its hard to find the ones i need. Both sides look identical, however there arent two are shorter then the other two. The ones closest to the rear if car are longer then the ones closest to the front of the car. Anyone know where i can get these?
Old 02-11-2017, 07:00 PM
  #40  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
maverick06xx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Bluntzs, i cant even loosen these right? Because it will mess alingment up correct? I was thinking of jacking the car up and lossen bolts, then let the vehicle down on ramps then tighten bolts but will this alingment up?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:39 AM.