Do I need a camber kit?
#81
so... i know nothing about cars, fyi. i didn't see it in the article or maybe i missed it. i don't have any mods on my car except 19" wheels. i took my car in for an alignment because my wheels are wearing more on the insides. i was told the only way to fix the problem was to get new (adjustable) cambers, in addition to the alignment. they said there wasn't anything wrong with the factory ones and that it was just the way honda's are made. any feedback would greatly help. thx!
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#83
I just bought a new pair of toyo eclipse tires and got an alignment, but the tire shop made it a point to try to sell me another aftermarket part called "EZ Bar" to adjust the rear alignment. I am not too familar with what was all said. My question is here, is it neccesary for me to buy this part (EZBAR)? Because I just got the 4 wheel alignment.
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#91
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Guys I know this question is redundant but Im confused. So i have a stock TL not lowered. i took my car in for tire rotation and my rear tires had heavy inside wear while the rest of the tire was 80% He said I needed an alignment but that my cambers are non adjustable. so my question is : can i still get an alignment w/o adjusting my camber/getting a kit? I drive 3000miles a month incase this is important. what do i do? just purchased new potenzas adn not trying to drive through these in a couple months! Yelp
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Read the article!
I lowered my car 4 months ago, no alignment problems or tire issues. I lowered it 2inches all around. I have a friend who works at an acura dealership & he told me I wouldn't need a camber kit if its aligned properly. Now if you go 19's, then maybe. I just wasted $200 bucks on a camber kit when I didn't need it. DAMN!
I lowered my car 4 months ago, no alignment problems or tire issues. I lowered it 2inches all around. I have a friend who works at an acura dealership & he told me I wouldn't need a camber kit if its aligned properly. Now if you go 19's, then maybe. I just wasted $200 bucks on a camber kit when I didn't need it. DAMN!
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Guys I know this question is redundant but Im confused. So i have a stock TL not lowered. i took my car in for tire rotation and my rear tires had heavy inside wear while the rest of the tire was 80% He said I needed an alignment but that my cambers are non adjustable. so my question is : can i still get an alignment w/o adjusting my camber/getting a kit? I drive 3000miles a month incase this is important. what do i do? just purchased new potenzas adn not trying to drive through these in a couple months! Yelp
#94
i had bought an '08 TL S 3 mo. ago. it has an a-spec suspension. i want to put 18"-19" rims with bigger tires to fill the wheel well a little more. I was told that b/c i was going with a larger diameter wheel, i will have to get a camber kit. is this true, and how bad will this affect my odometer readings?
#97
Stock 2004 Right rear camber -1.6
My stock '04 keeps wearing out rears, especially on the right. Unfortunately, I bought the Moog K90210 as Amazon said it would fit. Not! I should have found this site.
Anyways, I read about a recall or TSB on this issue. Can I get the dealer to install the bump stops or adjustable camber arm? Just replaced all four struts with OEM. Thanks!
Anyways, I read about a recall or TSB on this issue. Can I get the dealer to install the bump stops or adjustable camber arm? Just replaced all four struts with OEM. Thanks!
#98
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Sorry for asking a question mrheeltoe or anyone else who can help me. but i read your article multiple times and am still unsure if i need a camber kit or not. when i got my alighnment done they gave me the spec sheet. the sheet said front left:-1.5 camber 2.9 caster toe 0.00 Front right:-1.4 camber 2.9 caster toe.01 Rear left:-2.4 camber -0.02 toe rear right: -2.4 camber -0.01 toe. I drive a 2008 tl type s Lowered on Tein SS coilovers lowered about 2 inches. the front doesnt look to bad but the rear does look like they go inward quite a bit. I got my alighnment done at an acura dealership if that helps. please help.
dropped on Tein SS
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#99
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ok guy i just order HT-spec coilover type-1...and i got 08 TL-S and i am thinking about going to 2 inch all around....do i need a camber kit...????
i am going to lower on some 18...
i am going to lower on some 18...
#102
hello,
I have an acura tl 2007 ,car pulls to the right i have got aligntment done ,brand new tires , car still pulls to the right nobody is able to give me a proper answer why its happening i was told rear suspension is all siezed up but with a camber kit theirs a possibility to fix it is that true ? please help .. thanks
I have an acura tl 2007 ,car pulls to the right i have got aligntment done ,brand new tires , car still pulls to the right nobody is able to give me a proper answer why its happening i was told rear suspension is all siezed up but with a camber kit theirs a possibility to fix it is that true ? please help .. thanks
#103
hey would i need to get a camber kit on my 2g tl. i have a set of ff coilovers and im trying to run an extremely aggressive set up. i have 19x8.5+2035 215/35/19 fronts 19x9.5+20 225/35/19 rears
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Ingalls. Check with HeelToe or Excellerate
#106
Thanks for this thread, i was planning to get a camber kit cause i was getting camber wear on my front tires, but i havent gotten it aligned yet. People i know told me to get all the toe realign to 0. I have a 2" drop in the front and 1.75" in the back. Would that alignment be right?
#108
Camber kit for Honda Accord Tourer 2009 -> (Acura TSX wagon)
Does someone know is there camber kit available for Honda Accord tourer / Acura TSX wagon model -> 2009 ?
I found following camber kits but it seems that these does not fit into tourer/wagon (??)
Eibach:
EIB-5.67540K
SPC:
spc 60150
I found following camber kits but it seems that these does not fit into tourer/wagon (??)
Eibach:
EIB-5.67540K
SPC:
spc 60150
#109
awesome article. im going with the eibach pro kit which is a maximum settled drop of 1.4''. i will be getting an alignment done at the acura dealer and opting out of the camber kit. good tips!
#110
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Why do ppl keep asking if you need a camber kit? The whole point of this thread is to inform you on the facts of camber and alignment, not tell you if u need a camber kit or not. You've got to make that decision for yourself! That being said I have a 2" drop aligned with no camber kit running 2.2degrees in rear and 1.6 in front. so far very little camber wear. I can tell the inside will wear slightly quicker but not so much it should make me replace the tires before the rest of the tread goes out. I'm not getting a camber kit until after I see how the tires wear. Also you have to think that tires camber so they can clear the fender so on extreme fitment camber may be the only thing keeping your tires from rubbing. And on hard cornering your wheels can actually get positive camber, so a little camber will help cornering, so even with a camber kit I wouldn't put it all the way to stock. This is my 4th lowered honda and only one had a camber kit, and the only one that hella wore the tires never got aligned.
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#111
There are only two reasons why I will be picking up the Ingall's camber kits for the rear(s). A.) I'm sure these control arms are made from better quality vs stock . And B.) I want my camber and toe to be at the same degree at both sides. No 2.1 degree negative camber on one side and 2.0 negative camber on the other side. Even though that's only 0.1 degrees off, I want them to match on both sides .
#113
There are only two reasons why I will be picking up the Ingall's camber kits for the rear(s). A.) I'm sure these control arms are made from better quality vs stock . And B.) I want my camber and toe to be at the same degree at both sides. No 2.1 degree negative camber on one side and 2.0 negative camber on the other side. Even though that's only 0.1 degrees off, I want them to match on both sides .
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Yea i agree with MrHeelToe on this one. not so Sure that par (A) is accurate. Although, Given that my car is Type-S is this even further from the truth?..I am not so sure on the specific differences in regards to control arms between regular tl and tls, but anyways.. as far as (B) goes , that is precisely why i am getting the rear ingalls kit, I am anal about numbers matching EXACTLY on both sides.
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So I'm going to be the 1001th person on this thread that asks for help. I'm sitting in the Firestone waiting area now(lifetime alignment FTW) for my stock 05 TL (type-S rims). The reason I brought it in is my car is pulling HARD to the left on the highway and the only thing off on the alignment is the camber and obviously it cannot be adjusted. Is a camber kit the way to go or an adjustable ball joint? I am a newb when it comes to suspension, and cars in general for that matter. I don't want to lower or anything I just want my car to stop pulling left. He said my tires are still wearing really well but if I don't fix the problem they will start to wear unevenly. Please help!!
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#119
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I'd spring the cash for it!!!
I just lowered my type-s with the TIEN super streets, and before I got it aligned (we eyeballed it as well as we could) my gas milage dropped down below 17mpgs and was riding rough as hell. When I called the only shop in town that even touches lowered cars they told me they wouldn't even touch it if I didn't have the camber kits. Luckily my buddy that helped me install everything HIGHLY suggested getting them from the beginning. After getting her all straightened up she cruising back at her normal 20ish range... as long as I'm not chasing a couple hot chicks in a Ferrari. So needless to say if you don't want your car to burn through tires and ride "rougher" then it already will, I'd say go for the gold... And really their not too bad to install, if you have an acetylene torch for the fronts! Good luck and enjoy!
#120
So I'm going to be the 1001th person on this thread that asks for help. I'm sitting in the Firestone waiting area now(lifetime alignment FTW) for my stock 05 TL (type-S rims). The reason I brought it in is my car is pulling HARD to the left on the highway and the only thing off on the alignment is the camber and obviously it cannot be adjusted. Is a camber kit the way to go or an adjustable ball joint? I am a newb when it comes to suspension, and cars in general for that matter. I don't want to lower or anything I just want my car to stop pulling left. He said my tires are still wearing really well but if I don't fix the problem they will start to wear unevenly. Please help!!
The camber is not likely the problem.
I just lowered my type-s with the TIEN super streets, and before I got it aligned (we eyeballed it as well as we could) my gas milage dropped down below 17mpgs and was riding rough as hell. When I called the only shop in town that even touches lowered cars they told me they wouldn't even touch it if I didn't have the camber kits. Luckily my buddy that helped me install everything HIGHLY suggested getting them from the beginning. After getting her all straightened up she cruising back at her normal 20ish range... as long as I'm not chasing a couple hot chicks in a Ferrari. So needless to say if you don't want your car to burn through tires and ride "rougher" then it already will, I'd say go for the gold... And really their not too bad to install, if you have an acetylene torch for the fronts! Good luck and enjoy!
Riding rough makes no sense at all...although getting the toe adjusted will definitely cure issues with dartiness or odd on-center feel, which could give the perception of a "bad ride." The ride has nothing to do with the alignment though.
The camber kit was not necessary in your case to improve mileage, the ride, or the tire wear. It was only necessary to get your local shop to touch it.