Swapping stock automatic transmission torque converter and adding more torque
#41
Safety Car
I have plenty of fun in my car stunting on fools lol. I quickly realized that I'm not going to get much power out of this platform so started to get it up to snub in terms of looks. The 3g can look amazing with the right kind of visual mods and it can also sound very nice with a proper exhaust system.
Anyways, I'm in the same boat though, I do want more out of the car performance wise.. The only thing that makes sense for me to do at this point is wait for my Auto to blow then do the 6spd swap. Im hoping this doesn't happen for another 2 years at least but it will be done as I plan on keeping the car and have already sunk alot of money into it for mods so in my case it doesn't make sense to sell it for a 6mt TL
Anyways, I'm in the same boat though, I do want more out of the car performance wise.. The only thing that makes sense for me to do at this point is wait for my Auto to blow then do the 6spd swap. Im hoping this doesn't happen for another 2 years at least but it will be done as I plan on keeping the car and have already sunk alot of money into it for mods so in my case it doesn't make sense to sell it for a 6mt TL
I am still curious and to this date have not found actual number/data about AT failure rates in 3G TL vs other Honda vs USDM vs euro cars. All we have are internet-based opinions and trends on what is a "bad AT" and what is "better AT." It's a highly biased sample size. I don't know if there are databases out there either some kind of tracking system to see AT failure rates as a % of overall ATs. (dealer networks, repair shop networks, OEM itself?)
Or maybe within Honda's own corporate data they may have some numbers that they keep to themselves as an internal benchmark....which will never see public light of day unfortunately if that's the case. (a few on this very forum tried to get a production # of how many 07/08 TL-S were produced with the 6MT and broken down by colors...trying to find a number for how many 3G Unicorns were out there......07/08 TL-S with the 6MT and in KBP....and Acura corporate responded with that that information was a corporate secret and unable to be furnished....so if this kind of info is not given out then surely we'll never see anything even more sensitive such as AT failure rates)
With that said.....these ATs are likely relatively weaker than others....and given the average consumers' knowledge and care for transmissions (which is woefully little to none to damage.....from mis-using the AT...I know because I was an idiot before I started learning about cars and put 150k miles on a 95 Accord with very little ATF care......) it tends to get more failures than others.
And echoing what others have said already.....no need to dump that much money to get to some magical hp number. You can still have lots of fun with a base platform with visual mods and keeping maintenance/interior up to date. Having fun is not all about HP and straight line acceleration and loud engine/exhausts.
If you're looking for more reliable higher hp/performance chassis....you need to look elsewhere and not a 3G TL....unless you are truly addicted to this car and are willing to dump in massive money (as some have done on this forum) and know that you'll likely never recoup that money back in re-sale OR be as fast as other cars spending the same amount of money.
Last edited by nist7; 01-23-2017 at 05:49 PM.
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#43
Instructor
the 04-06 and 07-08 base have the same exact engine. only the type s 3.5L has the different bell housing. however there are different electronics between the 04-0 and 07-08 base transmissions
#46
Tls actually have great transmissions
Unfortunately swapping for a 6speed is out of the question for because for one I don't yet know how to drive stick, and two it will be a a ton load of money to change the entire transmission unit. Are the 2005 transmissions that bad? I know 2G TLs have very bad transmission problems.