3.80 final drive
#41
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Not sure what they usually look like, but from what I heard they modify the stock pinion to come up with the 3.80. Not sure how because I don't know what it involves, but I would trust it. They send them out to Liberty Gears to be modified as far as I know, considering that's the name that was on the box it came in.
#42
All motor
Interesting. I just need to stop being a pu$$y and get it done.
#44
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A buddy of mine works at a Honda dealership. One of the techs said he would do it, but my buddy hasn't answered me in over a month lol. If not there, I have someone else who can do it, probably for cheaper. I'm not worried about the trans install and all of its components, but more-so about the Final Drive. I want it to be done RIGHT with no corners cut, which is why I'm also curious if/what I should be replacing along with it.
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#52
Team Owner
So Sonnick runs bottom 11s/high10s? Looking at his sig it shows mid 13s. So this mod will shave off 2-2.5 seconds in the 1/4? That's like adding over 300hp. That's one hell of a mod.
The average of the top 26 quickest C6 Z06s on factory everything including tires is 11.5@124mph. That's the AVERAGE. It's just not going to happen. It's a big jump from 13s to 12s but it's a HUGE jump from 12s to 11s. That Accord runs great but it's not touching a Z06.
The average of the top 26 quickest C6 Z06s on factory everything including tires is 11.5@124mph. That's the AVERAGE. It's just not going to happen. It's a big jump from 13s to 12s but it's a HUGE jump from 12s to 11s. That Accord runs great but it's not touching a Z06.
#53
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The goal after my FD has nothing to do with 1/4 mile times. I'm shooting for liftoff.
#54
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Lol. I'm curious to see what happens to your mph. Since it looks like you're a good driver judging by your times vs mph, I'm sure you'll take full advantage of this mod. I know your 1/4 times will drop considerably but the mph is what I'm most curious about. If 108mph is redline in 4th with the new gearset, I wonder if you're going to bump the limiter through the traps or not.
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So Sonnick runs bottom 11s/high10s? Looking at his sig it shows mid 13s. So this mod will shave off 2-2.5 seconds in the 1/4? That's like adding over 300hp. That's one hell of a mod.
The average of the top 26 quickest C6 Z06s on factory everything including tires is 11.5@124mph. That's the AVERAGE. It's just not going to happen. It's a big jump from 13s to 12s but it's a HUGE jump from 12s to 11s. That Accord runs great but it's not touching a Z06.
The average of the top 26 quickest C6 Z06s on factory everything including tires is 11.5@124mph. That's the AVERAGE. It's just not going to happen. It's a big jump from 13s to 12s but it's a HUGE jump from 12s to 11s. That Accord runs great but it's not touching a Z06.
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#60
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Lol. I'm curious to see what happens to your mph. Since it looks like you're a good driver judging by your times vs mph, I'm sure you'll take full advantage of this mod. I know your 1/4 times will drop considerably but the mph is what I'm most curious about. If 108mph is redline in 4th with the new gearset, I wonder if you're going to bump the limiter through the traps or not.
I went 104.5 untuned last Fall (think I could have seen 105 had I gone back), so I'm hoping with a retune & the gears I will see 108-109. I think a good tune will yield me 1mph alone (especially w/ the butterfly delete) and the gears 2-3. Redline is set at 7200 right now, so 4th currently runs out @137 on my street tires & 130 on my shorter DRs. With the 3.80 and street tires, 4th redline is 119 on street tires and 112 on the DRs. Huge difference lol. Can't wait to see what the Fall brings!
#61
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I picked up the TL 6spd w/ LSD, so I'm hoping for 12s. My personal goal is to ET 12.85 with bolt ons/tune/gears with NO weight reduction besides the spare tire. I'd like to go 12s on the stock heads and internals. I do have the J37 heads (NOT the dual VTEC heads), but I will hold off on installing those for now.
I went 104.5 untuned last Fall (think I could have seen 105 had I gone back), so I'm hoping with a retune & the gears I will see 108-109. I think a good tune will yield me 1mph alone (especially w/ the butterfly delete) and the gears 2-3. Redline is set at 7200 right now, so 4th currently runs out @137 on my street tires & 130 on my shorter DRs. With the 3.80 and street tires, 4th redline is 119 on street tires and 112 on the DRs. Huge difference lol. Can't wait to see what the Fall brings!
I went 104.5 untuned last Fall (think I could have seen 105 had I gone back), so I'm hoping with a retune & the gears I will see 108-109. I think a good tune will yield me 1mph alone (especially w/ the butterfly delete) and the gears 2-3. Redline is set at 7200 right now, so 4th currently runs out @137 on my street tires & 130 on my shorter DRs. With the 3.80 and street tires, 4th redline is 119 on street tires and 112 on the DRs. Huge difference lol. Can't wait to see what the Fall brings!
#63
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I'm not 100% sure what is safe. Before Hondata, I don't think there were many J series at all revving above the stock redline. I guess we will find out shortly lolol.
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r3devi7 (05-22-2014)
#64
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I dropped my trans & FD off at a shop, so I should have an update later on about both the condition of my trans & how the FD install is going.
#65
Burning Brakes
So Sonnick runs bottom 11s/high10s? Looking at his sig it shows mid 13s. So this mod will shave off 2-2.5 seconds in the 1/4? That's like adding over 300hp. That's one hell of a mod.
The average of the top 26 quickest C6 Z06s on factory everything including tires is 11.5@124mph. That's the AVERAGE. It's just not going to happen. It's a big jump from 13s to 12s but it's a HUGE jump from 12s to 11s. That Accord runs great but it's not touching a Z06.
The average of the top 26 quickest C6 Z06s on factory everything including tires is 11.5@124mph. That's the AVERAGE. It's just not going to happen. It's a big jump from 13s to 12s but it's a HUGE jump from 12s to 11s. That Accord runs great but it's not touching a Z06.
I live at a 1,100+ sea level drag strip. Density altitude, wind factors, air density, etc all factors. My place here.. 12.7's C6 Z06 are constant hitting that time with average drivers. I go to Vegas and Sacramento dragstrips and stock c6 z06 are doing high 11.9's. Some people can dream, lol. Sonnick just so live near some of the fast tracks as well.
#66
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^ I do, I do. Lol. Island is a pretty quick track as is Atco.
#67
Originally Posted by Sonnick
Not sure what they usually look like, but from what I heard they modify the stock pinion to come up with the 3.80. Not sure how because I don't know what it involves, but I would trust it. They send them out to Liberty Gears to be modified as far as I know, considering that's the name that was on the box it came in.
Did anyone ever confirm if the 3.55 FD from the 8th gen Accord would work in the TL trans?
#68
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I don't know if there was ever confirmation in this regard. However, I can't imagine the transmission is any different internally (besides the FD) than the earlier 6 speeds. But that's also me offering wishful thinking, so who knows ha.
Called the trans shop and he told me his installer hadn't called him to tell him any negative, so he's assuming everything is good to go! He said he would call me tomorrow when it's ready. I'm not gonna get TOO excited until he calls me and tells me everything is good, but I am a bit antsy ha. IF ALL GOES WELL, I have plans of getting it installed sometime next week.
#70
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He did not specify.
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#75
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I picked up the trans during lunch today I have the OEM Clutch set & AASCO Flywheel, but I'm in the process of trying to exchange the OEM kit for the Clutchmasters FX250. I'm just waiting to hear back from Marcus. I'm getting it installed by someone who has previously worked on my car and he quoted me $400 to do the whole install including replacing the main seal behind the Flywheel.
You would be much better off with stock gearing, this way you will be able to utilize all of the power. You will be shifting too much with this FD.
You would be much better off with stock gearing, this way you will be able to utilize all of the power. You will be shifting too much with this FD.
#77
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#79
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I got a quote from a shop in CT for $250, but I wasn't going to make the 3+ hour drive. King Motorsports, where ILC had his work done usually charges $200 based on their site, but I wasn't going to ship it there either. I was told by a few places they would have to open up the trans first in order to give me a quote. Another place quoted me $3K lmao. I ended up going to a shop that specializes in transmissions & spent $495. I was hoping to pay less, but at the same time I wasn't too upset about it because they cleaned the trans & the piece of mind that they specialized in transmissions was nice. They also cleaned it, which I'm happy about. Not to mention the fact that it's done!
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justnspace (05-29-2014)