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Old 11-06-2013, 10:25 PM
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very old. 95 legend.

oh yeah, others problem i had
blown head gasket (very common for a legend)
when i go alittle fast into a dip, my signal lights just automaticly flash 5 times faster, lol
front bumper design was stupid, my bumper keeps getting caught with the speed bump when i reverse.
etc etc

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They were hot cars when they came out.
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very old. 95 legend.
Old 11-07-2013, 01:35 AM
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They were hot cars when they came out.
They were a head of its time. but now acura is still stuck in the past.
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I'll see if I experience any of those issues. Driving an Advance / Tech / Krell for 1 week. It has 7,000 miles on it. So far, overall liking the car.

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How do you like the CTS-V ? I've been thinking about one for the past month. - but not many dealers seem to have them within 50 miles of my location.
Love it. Best car I've ever owned other than my 2G RL, which I still miss five years later. Not as refined as my RL, but it's not meant to be. It's always entertaining to drive.

Hopefully the RLX will grow on you, as folks like me live vicariously through your experience. I personally still hang out here because the SH-SH-AWD RLX is likely to be my next car, unless I decide to go way cheaper.

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I'll see if I experience any of those issues. Driving an Advance / Tech / Krell for 1 week. It has 7,000 miles on it. So far, overall liking the car.

Awesome, Tyson! Let us know what your experience is with it.
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I have had my RLX since Aug 2013 and now have 3056 miles on it. Only issue I have encountered has been the charging light coming on twice. Both times it came on I was trying to get a phone number form my phone book - wierd. And both of those times I was driving on the hwy when charging should not be an issue. Once car was shut down the light went away. Dealer checked charging system and all was AOK. I knew going into the purchase that gremlins would pop up on a first year model - that did not sway my decision at all; I have been a Honda/Acura owner since 1990 (CRX was first car from this manufacturer).
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You can take it to the dealership and they can fix the charging system issue. I had a customer of mine who was having an issue and I grabbed a new RLX for him to drive while they were fixing it. Took 2 days but it just ended up being a software update.

Once one of our mechanics finishes up with a car i'm going to let him know about this and make sure the dealership isn't stroking you.
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:27 AM
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I had heard about the charging issue software fix but when I mentioned that to my dealer they knew nothing about it nor could find any TSBs on it. Please send or post a TSB #. Thank you.
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I had heard about the charging issue software fix but when I mentioned that to my dealer they knew nothing about it nor could find any TSBs on it. Please send or post a TSB #. Thank you.
Strange, the service writer I asked couldn't find anything on it. I'll ask service mgr when he gets back from lunch.
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great to hear! - is your V all stock? no pulley or tune?

The RLX hybrid has always caught my eye. - Even if Acura takes back my RLX or refunds my money I'd consider the RLX hybrid and I hope they would give me a great deal on it. - A through test drive will take place

My RLX is back at the dealer currently, I might have it next week... which makes it out of service for a total of 15 days thus far. - I just want to be able to drive what I'm paying for.


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Love it. Best car I've ever owned other than my 2G RL, which I still miss five years later. Not as refined as my RL, but it's not meant to be. It's always entertaining to drive.

Hopefully the RLX will grow on you, as folks like me live vicariously through your experience. I personally still hang out here because the SH-SH-AWD RLX is likely to be my next car, unless I decide to go way cheaper.



Awesome, Tyson! Let us know what your experience is with it.
Old 11-08-2013, 04:16 PM
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If you do find that can you share it with me too, I also ran into the charging system issue but the dealer could find nothing wrong or any updates.

Thanks!

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Strange, the service writer I asked couldn't find anything on it. I'll ask service mgr when he gets back from lunch.
Old 11-08-2013, 09:39 PM
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Is this the one you're referring to? - it involves a software update

2014 Acura Rlx Electrical System Service Bulletin 349785

NHTSA: Action Number: 10052082 Service Bulletin Number: 349785

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Strange, the service writer I asked couldn't find anything on it. I'll ask service mgr when he gets back from lunch.
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hmmm, starting to think the Dealer is half my issue getting this solved.

- The issue happens about every other week so maybe 200-300 miles, Dealer says ok well we want to drive it ( our manager has a far drive and he will drive it for the week) so we can get it to fault for us and we can figure out a repair. Sounds great! - vehicle comes back a week later with 60 miles put on it, hmm So they drove it home and back one day and thats it.

Acura District manager comes out and has me drive the car with him in it, says he does not want me to reproduce the issue he just wants to see how the car is running. - the RO paper work states customer could not reproduce issue with District rep in car, I'm pissed I called the service manager about this, this is shady and I'm beginning to think the Dealer and district manager are the issue.

anyone in the Northeast with a dealer recommendation?
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They were hot cars when they came out.
The second gen Legend coupe is still one of my favorites.
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:54 AM
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The second gen Legend coupe is still one of my favorites.
I wholeheartedly agree - I was the proud owner of a '94 Legend coupe 6-speed. When I bought my '05 RL, I put it on Autotrader to sell it and it sold in one day for $1000 more than I was asking (bidding war).
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I wholeheartedly agree - I was the proud owner of a '94 Legend coupe 6-speed. When I bought my '05 RL, I put it on Autotrader to sell it and it sold in one day for $1000 more than I was asking (bidding war).
I had a similar desire for that car like I did for my CTS-V coupe. I just couldn't afford the Legend back in the early 90s when I had my Acura Vigor.
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Originally Posted by dturboman
They were hot cars when they came out.
To be honest, the cost of maintenance was very cheap and affordable.
the major problems that i had was through negligance.
the blown head gasket could of been avoided if i would of bought a new radiator to keep my engine cool. so avoiding to spend $150 ended up costing me $1700. I was a college student that time and didn't have the money to pay for the radiator. ended up borrowing $1700 from people and eventually paid them back once i got a job.
So i really can't get mad at the Blown head gasket.
the thing that pissed me off was the failure of the transmission, it just hit me from no where and at the wrong place and wrong time. other then that its cheap to fix.
i had that car for 12 years and now i gave it to my little brother. I like the simplicity of my legend.
the only thing that constantly piss me off about the car was the front bumper, always keep getting caught on the speed bumper. and would often completely fall off. i would let people borrow my car and they come back with a missing front bumper, lol.
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So I complained and complained up the ladder at Honda/Acura, Car spent 2 weeks out of service, the last time it was In I met with another person from Acura, said they were going to try somethings on the car. - took a week, this is after they sent the Datalog back to honda.

the car has been perfect not a issue since, but one weird thing I noticed is the shift points have changed from the second I drove it off the lot. The car will now click off perfect upshifts every time at an indicated 7k, which is odd as before It would shift much earlier 6400-6500. The car feels much quicker as well, just for the heck of it I hooked the Vbox up to it.

I pervious recorded a 5.85 0-60 and 14.1 @ 100.4mph - it was great to check the box accuracy as I never used it on a stock vehicle.

Post the latest dealer visit
0-60 5.51 and 13.7 @ 102.7 - same road, near same conditions and I was able to repeat it, so it wasnt just a fluke.

Very odd, but I'm not complaining, I feel like I was given an enhanced flash to shut me up and solve the miss shift issue.

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While 0-60 is not the most useful measure of speed, that 5.5 is pretty impressive for such a big car. Glad you got your problem resolved.

PS RX7 with LS7 swap? Do tell.
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Post the latest dealer visit
0-60 5.51 and 13.7
Wow! That automatic RLX is about as fast as the TL 6-6 SH-AWD!

Most of us can get a 13.8 out the TL, and 0-60 5.4-5.5 if you were raised with a bunch of ricer drag racers who know how to shift a Honda manual.

:-)

But...on those Michelins, to get 13.7 with an automatic RLX....

That's just awesome.
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
While 0-60 is not the most useful measure of speed, that 5.5 is pretty impressive for such a big car. Glad you got your problem resolved.

PS RX7 with LS7 swap? Do tell.
The Rx7 has been great, I picked it from a guy who started the swap but never got everything fully put together correctly, one good thing was the motor was already beefed up with a Lunati crank, rods and pistons.

I swapped new VR CNC heads on it, with titanium valvetrain and 1.8 rocker arms and a .640 lift cam. it turns to 7600 rpm currently and off nitrous is about a 650hp motor.

it runs a 10 gallon cell in the read with a 1 gallon cell up front to feed the nitrous systems fuel solenoid. The nitrous is a throttle plate system feeding in about 250hp worth or nitrous.

I recently swapped the main tank and tune over to Q16 from so I'm interested to see the results.

It puts the power down using a Powerglide, running a appx a 5000 stall with a tranbrake.

28x10.5 tire in the rear

all said and done its about 2500lbs making 900+hp and even with the high lift cam and 5000 stall its not bad to drive on the street.

Once its not 23 out I'll post some videos
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
Wow! That automatic RLX is about as fast as the TL 6-6 SH-AWD!

Most of us can get a 13.8 out the TL, and 0-60 5.4-5.5 if you were raised with a bunch of ricer drag racers who know how to shift a Honda manual.

:-)

But...on those Michelins, to get 13.7 with an automatic RLX....

That's just awesome.
I had a 13TL SH, auto as finding a manual was not in my favor. I had the XLR8 J pipe w/ 3rd cat delete and the best I was ever able to get was a.

5.79 0-60
14.0 @101 1/4 mile


getting the RLX to hook is a task itself as 300hp+ and FWD dont go well together, but the what I found is sport mode on, VSA on (yes on), and shut VSA off around the 30mph mark.

I'm half tempted to put a decent set if tires on it - I have a set of PSS that will swap right on rims included and run it down Atco next time I'm there.

I do think the RLX 3.5l is a 320-325hp motor @6800-7000 rpm but the shifts were happening too earlier, I'm much happier with whatever has changed and something defiantly has.

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Thanks for the info dturboman on the shift points. What do I need to ask for from my dealer to get this done?
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Thanks for the info dturboman on the shift points. What do I need to ask for from my dealer to get this done?
Thats a good question, mine started with the transmission failing to shift under heavy load, duplicated it for service, car was in and out of service. Acura sent reps out, I got lawyers involved after the first fix failures, Dealer took a datalog and sent it back to Acura... what they did from there I dont know but the car has not been the same and when I used to be able to reproduce the problem all day it no longer happens. - But I'd be willing to bet something has changed in the mapping due to a flash, and maybe this will trickle down to all RLX.

- On top of that Acura financial ate November's payment due to the problems I was having and I claimed I was " a repeat valued customer" the nice way of saying I make my payments on time lol

Are you experiencing very early shifts or shift failures?

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Old 12-17-2013, 04:32 PM
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No, not that I have been able to tell. My only shift complaint is on initial start from dead stop - it seems to lag a brief second.
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^^^^
Sounds like a TSB with software update is in order from Acura.
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Originally Posted by 4cruizn
I'll see if I experience any of those issues. Driving an Advance .... It has 7,000 miles on it. So far, overall liking the car.
Any experiences to report so far?


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...I feel like I was given an enhanced flash to shut me up and solve the miss shift issue.
Do you by any chance have an idea when your car was built? I'll go back through the thread again and see if you said anywhere when you bought it.

I hate to ask you dumb questions after everything you've been through, but maybe we should zero in on how many cars are like your pre-fix car.

Not sure I should confess knowing this, but my car seems to be shifting more like your post-fix report.
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
Any experiences to report so far?



Do you by any chance have an idea when your car was built? I'll go back through the thread again and see if you said anywhere when you bought it.

I hate to ask you dumb questions after everything you've been through, but maybe we should zero in on how many cars are like your pre-fix car.

Not sure I should confess knowing this, but my car seems to be shifting more like your post-fix report.
I bought it in July, there have been a few others who have had this shifting issue. - I'll check the build date and give you a better idea
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Sorry to hear about your issue.

I have my RLX for 6 months, and it is totally trouble free. My family really enjoy ride in this car.
Same here. Only had it a week, though.
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Originally Posted by Corey_Straker
You can take it to the dealership and they can fix the charging system issue. I had a customer of mine who was having an issue and I grabbed a new RLX for him to drive while they were fixing it. Took 2 days but it just ended up being a software update.

Once one of our mechanics finishes up with a car i'm going to let him know about this and make sure the dealership isn't stroking you.
Corey,
Do you have a TSB# for the charging issue?
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I had a 1993 Acura Legend LS 6 speed manual coupe. Great car. 2005 RL Tech. Great car. Most comfortable seats. Beautiful wood trim. AWD. 2009 TL Tech. Great car. 2012 TL Tech 6 speed auto. Great car. 2015 RLX Tech.

Not happy. Fake wood. Lousy back up camera. Slow Nav computer. But the poseurs love the folding mirrors and illuminated door handles. AC whistles. Rumble from the suspension on certain surfaces (not the roughest). Occasionally spooky handling when pressed (rear end steps out then collects itself.) Brake hold feature is grabby and rough.

0-60 is a very important performance criterion. Honda has always given the customer excellent vehicle dynamics for a fair price. The RLX is peculiar. The more time that passes since old man Honda died, the more lost Acura has become.

Love the big V6 song at WOT. Any car should be able to operate at WOT. It is not an issue of being an "Indy" driver. It is simple vehicle competence. So far, mine has no WOT issues. Acceleration is not mid to high 5s however. I think my TL Tech 6 spd auto (2012) was quicker though not sure.

I am a Honda/Acura fan. I am not happy.
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Had a first gen Legend coupe 5 spd. Loved it! It was my favorite car, but honestly, I've had an RLX Tech for a year now and - in spite of the wonky and slow nav - it's my new favorite. Of course, 30 years later, I'm the target demo!
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Originally Posted by 2x6spds
I had a 1993 Acura Legend LS 6 speed manual coupe. Great car. 2005 RL Tech. Great car. Most comfortable seats. Beautiful wood trim. AWD. 2009 TL Tech. Great car. 2012 TL Tech 6 speed auto. Great car. 2015 RLX Tech.

Not happy. Fake wood. Lousy back up camera. Slow Nav computer. But the poseurs love the folding mirrors and illuminated door handles. AC whistles. Rumble from the suspension on certain surfaces (not the roughest). Occasionally spooky handling when pressed (rear end steps out then collects itself.) Brake hold feature is grabby and rough.

0-60 is a very important performance criterion. Honda has always given the customer excellent vehicle dynamics for a fair price. The RLX is peculiar. The more time that passes since old man Honda died, the more lost Acura has become.

Love the big V6 song at WOT. Any car should be able to operate at WOT. It is not an issue of being an "Indy" driver. It is simple vehicle competence. So far, mine has no WOT issues. Acceleration is not mid to high 5s however. I think my TL Tech 6 spd auto (2012) was quicker though not sure.

I am a Honda/Acura fan. I am not happy.
What's the dealer said when you mentioned these issues? In particular, the suspension issue I thought was resolved with the TSB on the issue.

I have to say, I've not had particular issues with the brake hold or the backup camera.

The nav I've gotten used to. It's much better than my Cadi's navi by far, and which is much slower. No excuse, though.

Sounds like dealer time.
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Hi Neuronbob
I forgot to bring my list. I was in a rush. All I told them about was slow NAV ("checked out to be within normal parameters") and lousy backup camera ("That's how they all are now.")
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Go back about the suspension. There is a TSB on it. It's listed in the stickied official TSB thread on the main RLX forum page. One would think that 2015 RLXs have the fix already, but I can't assume that. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Go back about the suspension. There is a TSB on it. It's listed in the stickied official TSB thread on the main RLX forum page. One would think that 2015 RLXs have the fix already, but I can't assume that. Good luck!
I don't believe there a TSB for the 2015 with regard to the suspension. I have had no problems with mine. Also reading the 2x6spds post I did not see the issues with the suspension, what are they? Whether there a TSB or not the car is still under warranty, I bring it back to the dealer and have them check out your issues.
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I don't believe there a TSB for the 2015 with regard to the suspension. I have had no problems with mine. Also reading the 2x6spds post I did not see the issues with the suspension, what are they? Whether there a TSB or not the car is still under warranty, I bring it back to the dealer and have them check out your issues.
"Rumble from the suspension on certain surfaces (not the roughest). Occasionally spooky handling when pressed (rear end steps out then collects itself.)"

Not quite the same issues as in the TSB, but would prompt me to get it checked out.
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If you're not careful....

So that means it's something you shouldn't be trying to do, right? Otherwise why would you need to be careful? Why are you soo persistent on complaining about doing something with the car that you should be careful to avoid doing??

Personally I don't blame Acura for ignoring your complaints on this. The RLX was not designed to be a dragster car. If you know how you like to drive your cars, then you should spend more time researching the car designed to drive the way you want versus buying the wrong car and then trying to blame the manufacturer for lack of features that the car wasn't designed for in the first place.
This has to be probably the stupidest thing I have read on any car forum..
"sorry you can't drive your $50+ car (automatic at that) WOT cause it won't shift"..?? This guy has a legit problem and now that I have read further.. I'm glad it got worked out.
I work at a Honda dealership and have a 4G TL SH..I drive that bastard like I stole it.. cause thats how Hondas/Acuras like it.. Between my wife and I we have had 21 Honda/Acuras.. NOT ONE.. didn't like the WOT and have shift issues. Nor would I tell a customer that same thing.
Maybe you should pick yourself up a nice camry and enjoy the cushy ride and lack of excitement of driving.. cause it sure seems like your not the type of drivers Honda/Acura wants.
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Originally Posted by JdmStyle
This has to be probably the stupidest thing I have read on any car forum..
"sorry you can't drive your $50+ car (automatic at that) WOT cause it won't shift"..?? This guy has a legit problem and now that I have read further.. I'm glad it got worked out.
I work at a Honda dealership and have a 4G TL SH..I drive that bastard like I stole it.. cause thats how Hondas/Acuras like it.. Between my wife and I we have had 21 Honda/Acuras.. NOT ONE.. didn't like the WOT and have shift issues. Nor would I tell a customer that same thing.
Maybe you should pick yourself up a nice camry and enjoy the cushy ride and lack of excitement of driving.. cause it sure seems like your not the type of drivers Honda/Acura wants.
Did you bother reading the entire thread and watching the video? Initially it wasnt clear what the problem was and by the video, it looked like the car was being pushed into the red (limiter!) which to my understanding, is something Acura recommends not doing. So hence my post you decided to quote me on above.

It was AFTER that that he came back and explained more clearly that the issue was also happening even when you didnt hardline the engine. I'm glad it was fixed as well.

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