RidinDurty

Well i did read the first post, i just wanted to know aboyt 7.5 with +38 offset wich wasnt listed. Anyways, i wanted to know if it would rub even with my fenders rolled. I have Tein suspension, 3 inch drop and i still need to roll fenders. Would it still rub pretty bad?

derrick

Let's do a little math here ...

OEM: 6.5" rim with +55 offset.

Your setup: 7.5" rim (1" = 25mm), with +38 offset (-17mm compared to OEM)

25mm + 17mm = 42mm = 1.65" ... your rims will 'stick out' 1.65" more than the OEM setup. If you're slammed and you don't want a terrible amount of camber for the rims to fit (ie "tucked in" or "toe in") ... you will most likely rub.



And whomever quoted this:
I said this because there will those who do pick a +45 offset might rub (due to manufacturer variation). The general rule is ... the higher the offset, the more likely the setup will work without fender modification. If you're going to go with a lower offset than what we recommend here, you will most likely require some modification for it to work. Most don't want to worry about that and thus, we have this guide / thread to help those people out.

RidinDurty

Thanx for the info. I guess ill have to do some modifications to the fenders. I already bought those wheels so ill have to work around it. I also have a camber kit to adjust it after its slammed again.

dro_15

well, camber is not the best for ur car or traction but i love the look!!!! what the heck is cutting tabs by the way..... i c it in the post but have no idea what u guys are talking about....

Cozmo

Well my new wheels (18x7.5 w/45 offset) and 235 tires were rubbing on speed bumps and I ended up having to cut the rear tabs. My car isn't lowered at all but cutting the tabs stopped the rubbing. Since I plan to lower it I went and had the fenders rolled though I don't know how much difference it will make. My coilovers are on the way so we'll soon see if the fender rolling is enough to prevent the rubbing.

69armando

Check out the Foose wheels, I have a 02 TL-S with 19"x7.5 , offset +45. The bast tire size for it is 215/35/19. anything wider or taller will make the tire rub. I slammed mine and no rubbing at all.

69armando

The problem you are having is the tire size. You have the right offset (+45). For your rim size, you need to go with a 215/40/18. or 215/35/18. just my opinion. I have done a lot of research on this for my 02 TL-S and found that the perfect size for my 19" wheels is 215/35 performance tire with an offset of +45. Good Luck!

derrick

^ 215/40/18 or 215/35/18 ???? Are you serious?

215/35/18 is > 6% smaller than OEM size. DO NOT USE THIS SIZE! Not only will you experience a harsher ride, your speedometer will be off. Any reputatable tire installer will not put this on your car. (Point of reference: your car's OEM tire size is 215/50/17)

225/40/18 if you're experiencing rubbing with 235/40/18. 215/40/18 is very skinny, your choices are limited (and your speedo will be off by 2.7%).

LacViet

Guys, need your help to confirm before I decide to get the rims. Rim is 19 x 7.5 RH C4R offset +48, tire is 215/35. From what I understand, this rims will fit lower 2g TL without problem of rub (my goal is to low to about 1 finger gap). Now, the question is: Is the tire ok with 215/35/19 compare to OEM size? what is the % different that might cause the speedometer to go off? Thanks.

derrick

1010tires.com... tire calculator:

OEM size: 215/50/17
size in question: 215/35/19
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diameter difference: 2.13%
speedometer difference: 2.16% too fast (ie size in question is a little smaller)

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Bottomline: you should be OK with that tire set up. (Note: anything > 3% speedometer difference is not recommended in general)

LacViet

Thanks for your help, Derrick! The next set of tires after those 215/25/19 went bald will be 225/35/19.

InspireUA5

Does Enkei EVO5 18 X 7.5 45offset rim fit on 2gen TLs without fender modification? No rub?
I lowered my car w/ H& R sport springs (1.75/1.5) only.
Thanks for the help

streetracing901

Yes, should get away with no mods on 215's

thnworld

Hi,

I'm planning to get a 18X8 rim with 40 offset. The tires will be 245/40/18. Would there be any problem with 2002 tl-s?

Thanks!

GranSkyline

ok... rims: 18 is diam 8 is what?
because on the tires 245 is the height of the tire from where the rim is to tread
40 is width
and 18 is diam
right?
so then WHAT is 8?

Sushiplease

Will this fit my 02 TL?

17x7
55 offset

CL Platano

yep

Sushiplease

Thanks bro...

RidinDurty

I would like to say that 215/35/18 does not give you a harsher ride. I just put my rims on 4 days ago with that size tire and it is fine. And IF it did throw the speedometer off, then it would be 2-3 mph tops... I still prefer 40s instead of 35s but oh well.

fsttyms1

No it wont fit. Offset is WAY off. and the tire width is too large. You will stick out of the fender and rub like mad

NO
18 is the dia, 8 is the rim width.
245 is the width of the tire
40 is the side wall height

GranSkyline

well, 2 out of 4 is good :P

TheJank

Valid question guys, I am going through the same thing considering Gen2 TLP 16' OEM wheels as a winter set on my 2003 TLS. Can I be sure that the 16" OEM wheels will clear the calipers correctly on the TLS? I'm not sure how much the braking system is beefed up on a TLS, if at all, vs a TLP

mastaprk

Okay, I'm planning on buying a set of rims/tires for my '00 3.2TL (stock). I heard that 18" rims don't look good unless you lower it. I'm not looking to do any mods & want to just get larger rims. I would really like to know what rim/tire size would look best on my car w/o doing any mods?

I saw some 17" Enkei Evo5 rims that looked okay & if 17" rims look best w/o lowering, then I may get these w/ 225/45R17 tires or would it look better w/ a diff size tire? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

fsttyms1

no issues what so ever and no difference in brakes. they will bolt right up

fsttyms1

the key is to find a rim that fits correctly. Look at the sizes that will fit and offset info in this thread and others to see and make sure.

InspireUA5

Do Enkei EVO5 18X7.5 45mm offset rims with Tein S.S. coilover fit on 02 TL-P?
No rub issue?
What size of tire I should go for with that rim? 225/40R18 or 225/45 R18?

Thanks

mastaprk

Okay, so for the 17"x7" Enkei Evo5 rims, the offset is +42. I was wondering what tires would be okay for these. I was thinking about getting tire size 225/45R17. This setup should be fine, right?

derrick

18x7.5" rim with +45 offset is the bare minimum I would go (if you want to be safe). Higher offset would be ideal.

As for tire size ... 225/40/18 or 235/40/18 would be your most likely choices. If you want to play it safe, 225/40/18. You still might have to "cut tabs" to minimize likelihood of rubbing.

Good luck on your search and post pics once you've decided!

derrick

17x7 with +42 offset ... that would be OK but a higher offset would be better (if you want to lower your car). If you're stock, it should be fine.

Tire size: 215/50/17 should be fine. Why wider? You can even go 225/50/17 if you want...

chiarlei

Hi guys I was wonderin if anyone had any sugestions.
I have a 2002 TL-S . its got after market tires and wheels.
and they sling some very serious mud all over my doors, and back fenders, gets an inch thick all over my perfect blue paint.
I live in Oregon so there is lots of mud. On the tires it says 225/40 R 18 .
I dont know if they stick out too far for mudflaps.
been tryin to post a pic.
thanks

chiarlei

Oh ya, I forgot to say that they dont rub at all.

kuni808

I dont know if this set up will work but ive tried to ask a couple of members but i did not get a feed back yet. but iim looking into a set of these pretty sweet volks AV3s. the thing that kind of scares me is im not sure if it will work or not. the front is 18x8 +43 and the Rear is 18x9 +44 so what is scaring me is the rear width of the wheel. will a 9in with a +44 fit ok?? im running 19x8 +51 but im running 235s. i would run 225 on my 18s. what do you guys think?? should i chance it?? i know REV has run 19x8 and 9s on his TL. and i know i can adjust the rear camber just a little to tuck the wheel in a little more. but im just not sure. any feed back would be great. thanks j

Ohh and i cant try out the wheels first before i buy its in Cali and im in vegas. so i cant drive all the way there and fit then come back . too much hassel.

Acuracy02

I think the offset might be a little to low. Your diameter is fine, but the offset will be pushing it in terms of looking good. Basically I think the wheel will fit but it will look awkward. Why are you wanting to go staggered on FWD? I have my custom Works sitting in the basement till winter passes right now. I have yet to put them on the car but I know they will fit. 19x8 +45 with custom O-disk. Tires are naturally stretched Falken ST-115s. I have already had my fenders rolled to provide room.

RidinDurty

Ok i just wanted to show you guys some pics of my setup and hopefully this will prove that not ALL rims with low offset is bad.

Heres the setup: 215/35/18 tires, 18x7.5 rims +38 offset, lowered 3.5" front-2.75" back. No rubbing, no camber, no problems.... I will soon buy 215/40 tires because im afraid if i hit a bump too hard i might bend the rim. Anyways here are the pics.





Apparantly not ALL rims with low offset will be a problem. So i suggest you guys do some more resaerch on your wheels before asking people on this forum. A lot of you guys tend to make a big deal out of +42 offset lol.

kuni808

I just did not want the wheel to be sticking out. thats the whole reason. i know the 9" is pushing it. but i know i can fit a 9.5" width wheel since REV has proved it can be done. the reason for the staggard is because i want these wheels for so long but Volk does not make these wheels any more. plus they have a great lip on them. I like my 19s but the tires are just too thin to run in vegas. i want something with a 40 series. 35 on 19s is pretty thin. The +44 with the 9" width will be for the rear. but since the front is an 8" with a +43 it should not look staggard. it should look pretty much the same. The rear might have a slightly larger lip. I figured since i fit +45 with my 18x7.5 i figure i can fit the 9" with a +44. its only a 1mm difference. i just wanted to get a second opinon on the wheels.

Im probably going to run 225/40s on them. or maybe 235 on the rear and 225 on the front since the rear is a 9in and the front is the 8in. hmmm maybe.

thanks for the pics. it looks like if you run a low offset the width cant be too wide so you dont rub and or stick out. but its great to see different combos.

derrick

215 / 35 / 18 -- are you serious you put that on a 2nd gen TL???

That is > 6% off OEM spec. This is dangerous. I wouldn't be driving too far with those tires on the car. I can't believe a tire shop put that on your car. Shame on them.

215/40/18 -- as skinny as they are for an 18" tire is 2.8% too small, so the speedo will say you are going to be slower than you truly are. Plus you will be racking up more miles on your car a little sooner (not that bad).

Sure ... you can try a rim with a lower offset (for deep dish action) but what kind of tires can you safely put on without having to trim tabs / roll fenders / negative camber? Plus ... I'm not feeling those rims.

And the pics that were just posted ... your drop does not look like a full 3.5" / 2.75" at all. If it was, the tires should look almost flush with the wheel well. But maybe it's because you used such tiny tires. Furthermore ... drive on those tires long enough ... negative camber should show up in the rears if you are really dropped that low (unless you add an aftermarket camber kit).

Point in lesson: anyone can make virtually anything fit. Depends on what sacrifices you are willing to take. You can use this FAQ any way you like ... as a suggestion VS law.

RidinDurty

The speedometer is not a big deal if you ask me. I never go too far past speed limit. Also, im not lying about my drop. I have the Tein Basic Damper kit and the fron is dropped to its max and the back i had to raise a little because of my sound system. I did buy an SPC camber kit so my alignment is perfect. No matter what you say, i wont have negative camber on these lol. Anyways, the 215/40s will be almost touching the fenders, so i may have to cut tabs (nope, i dont rub with tabs at the moment ) The reason why my car doesnt look that low is because of the small ass tires i have. With my stock wheels i was tucking like half inch of tire. With these wheels im even lower now. The bottom of my car is about 4" off the ground, if not less because i tried measuring it last night and couldnt see very well. . I did some research and the 215/40s should sit a little less than an inch higher.

Acuracy02

I was always under the impression that a larger diameter wheel takes longer to go around (rotate) so the mileage realized is actually less than reality. The mileage is based on the hub itself rotating and since a wheel larger than the factory 17" wheel(assuming we are discussing a type-s) takes longer to rotate one full revolution the vehicle is traveling a further distance on one rotation of the hub.

Can others offer their input?

Thanks.

fsttyms1

Yes that is correct. With the tire being smaller than stock, it will make the speedo show that your going faster than you are.

fsttyms1

Or maybe your rims arent actually a +38. Because the way they fit in the wheel well they dont look like it, they look closer to a +42 or more. Maybe the manufacturer has them labeled wrong or went about measuring them from a different location.

And your suggestion to do some research, Well thats what this forum is for. And the INFO posted is from Real life experience with people who HAVE tried different offsets. I tried a friends +38 (granted it was a 8") and stuck out outside the fender. 95% who use +42 rub or have issues. Id suggest any one who's doing research not to try a +38