SG81

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I have the H&R sports on the stock struts. i've had them for over a year and the ride is surprizing almost the same (and i drive downtown everyday). i love the look of the drop too. i do recommend doing struts at the same time to save a labour cost if you're not changing them yourself, but if you're like me and didn't /don't have the $$$ to buy good struts, you'll be ok on the stocks. when these go i plan on some koni yellows

TCM 01 CL-S

Did you need camber adjusters with that set up?

Allout

Comptech/Eibach springs
Tokico Illumina's set at #4
SPC Camber kits front and rear
Neuspeed Sways - 27mm front and 25mm rear (race bar)
Comptech Titanium Strut Bar
OZ Superleggera 17X8 48mm ET (17.6lbs wheels)
Goodyear F1 GS-D3's 235/45-17 front - 38psi, rear - 35psi

Pretty firm ride. Very stable at high speeds and braking. A bit of understeer currently. Need to pull a little negative camber out of rear to make it more neutral.

Very pleased with the current setup.

Sun Diego CL-S

i'm looking at some 18x7.5 wheels with +43 offset. would it be safe to use a 45 series tire on a CT drop? would there be any rubbing with the dimensions 235/45? or would do i have to use the 225/40 with the wheel size mentioned? i pretty much would like to have the 18x7.5 wheels with 235/45 to fill in the wheel well. but don't want to deal with rubbing. i guess my options are also 235/40 or 225/40.

CleanCL

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i ran 235/40/18 and then switched tires to 225/45/18 and enjoyed the larger sidewall better than the low pro... btw the 43 offset is a no go, don't bother.

Sun Diego CL-S

really?! dammit. i thought we were good as long as we use +40 offset.

CleanCL

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more like +45

Sun Diego CL-S

so what would you guys think would happen if they were 18x7.5 w/+43 offest wrapped in 225/40/18 tires?

CleanCL

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how low are you dropped?

Sun Diego CL-S

the Comptech spring drop is 2" up front and 1.7" over in the back.

CleanCL

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you MIGHT be alright, maybe some rubbing in the rear, you could roll/shave your fenders if you have your heart set on the rims.

coastal rider

Guys - great packaged suggestions.

Anyone of you know the stock spring rates for a 03 CL-S?

efhead

so can i just add sway bars? none of my stock parts need to be replaced, not that i entirely understand what you guys are talking about (will google suspension for dummies later)

and someone mentioned compensating for the odd weight ratio - i hope that this did not involve sand bags in the trunk.

and i realized the other day what i miss about my integra - it felt fast even thought i was not going particularly fast. whereas with the CL-S, I am actually going pretty damn fast but cant really 'feel' it. so i am guessing that the suspension and weight distribution are the places to start.

thanks all - this forum is great. what i lack in CL knowledge i can make up for in old mercedes knowledge if anyone would find this helpful - just not suspensions

BenjamminTN

Any comment on the camber adjusters on comptech's website? SPC and Ingalls kits look to be the most popular... j/w if the comptech stuff would fulfill anyone's needs.

J32A26MT

Im trying to decide on springs for my car. I just got an anthricate 6 speed coupe with navi and no spoiler...17000 miles!!! Anyway, i measured the wheelgap in the front and back and it looks like about 3 inches in front and 2 1/2 in the back. Id like to lower it about 1.5 up front and 1 inch in the back for an even drop. I don't want to go too low, i want to keep close to factory ride height, and i want to keep my factory shocks for now. The best I've seen is the Tanabe NF210s...1 inch up front and 1/2 in the back and its only like 5-10% increased spring rate. DOES ANYONE HAVE THESE? does anyone know of any comparable springs that might work for me? these are the Tanabes, any opinions?

grey6spd.

Had the teins with edfc for about 6 months, The adjusting module I have is in my console glove box. It's pretty slick ,you can adjust the fronts and rears independently with three pre-sets. So far I really like it. On the down side if you live in a climate where the temp. goes below 32 deg. you'll have to put up with a lot of squeaking as those poly-urethane bushings are noisy.

COMPTECH HEADERS
B-PIPE
CT ICEBOX
TEIN SS-S /EDFC
INGALLS CAMBER KIT

blazntigz

i need some advice guys. im picking up s-tech springs off the BM looking to get new rotors (canadian? recommended from a few AZ users) and legend calipers. but im looking to pair shocks w. the s-tech's any recommendations? do i need cambers? very confused dont know if i can run on stocks for a while until i get more money to do a complete cl upgrade

brianlin87

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koni yellows. camber kit is for peace of mind. better safe than sorry imo. i would wait until you purchase struts before you put on your springs. there's no point paying/doing the same labor twice.

blazntigz

roger that
would you recommend a specific camber kit?

BigLizard

Neuspeed UFSB
Cucso LSB
Comptech sways
Eibach Pro-kit springs
SPC camber kit

The setup isn't too shabby. I'd recommend getting the springs and dampers at the same time so you're not paying for labor twice. Other than that, it handles way better than it did stock.

I'm either going with Eibach Dampers to match up with the springs or go coilovers. yet.

The rear sway is very squeaky...I try not to think about it going over bumbs.

Sun Diego CL-S

it's been awhile since someone posted here. so i guess i'll add some more info.

i remember reading good reviews about the Yokohama ES100 tires posted on different tire vending sites. most all of those reviews were by those who drive sport cars such as the Porsche Boxster S and the BMW E46 M3. this tire is supposed to be a Z-rated high performance summer tire.

now, i really haven't pushed my car much around corners since getting my current setup about six months back. after making a recent mountain run with some AZ and NSX drivers, i was not impressed by these tires at all. in fact, i was kinda embarassed that i was squealing and sliding around. this after having to go pretty much all out uphill while seeing in my rear view mirror an AWD beast in a modded 997 Turbo. i had to let him pass. they were only fair under spirited driving.

we had just started to make our way up Palomar Mtn. and it wasn't like my tires were hot. actually, the mountain air was cool which made well for brisk acceleration. so, just to let you know, i think these ES100s are all looks.

i'm going to start looking to pick up a set of some sort of Bridgestone, Michelin or possibly the Toyo T1R.

efhead

The following statement is made in good fun:
I found the optimum suspension.

I traded the CL T-S for a Mini Cooper S

Of course now I am researching run-flat options, but braking is not necessary for most corners, unless the wife is in the car.

DLntheCL

i see that this thread is over a year old but i just got my CL and am trying to read as much as possible and i saw this post and found it to be inaccurate. offset and width are dependent upon each other. 7.5 inch wide wheel with a 43 offset will fit perfectly. now what Wont work well is an 8.5 inch wide wheel with a 43 offset. the wheel will stick out past the fender.

coastal rider

Hi, guys,

About the Tein coilovers I hope you can answer a few Qs to add to this old but useful thread:

1) How can the Basics and SS coilovers ride as stock when they both have a spring rate of 390 lbs / inch up front, which happens to be exactly 50% greater spring rate than stock type-S?

2) I have read that some who have used the Tein Basics or SS coilovers have only lowered their car around an inch, but the spec say minimum 1.8" lowering?

3) What is the ride quality impact of the pillowball with a stock wheel and tire combo?

Thanks in advance...

sinfulj32

the basics and ss are 7k front , 4k rear and are the closest to stock handling coilovers your gonna get. compared to ksports or megan racing which are over 10k spring rate.

people that say they lowered 1" on their tein's probably mean they're 1" from the highest ride height on their tein's.

the pillowball will help with better response but probably wont notice much difference with stock wheel/tire combo.

krisdlm

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im currently dropped on ksports, and ive been considering getting a camber kit but I dunno if its needed? I have little over a 1 finger gap all the way around, but how do I tell if i need cambers?

brianlin87

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Just ordered my set of Zeal XS Coilovers.

mystikk

Eibach Pro-kit springs
19x8 Ace Allures
+43 offset
235/35/19 General Exclaim UHP

A very basic starting setup. The Eibachs ride nice and hard, feels like I can feel every imperfection the road. Then again, I can't compare these with anything else, but it does feel like a sports car. Some people like it, the older demographic generally don't [ ie, parents ].

I got the Allures and Generals tossed on the car yesterday, so I can't give an extensive review, but so far the Generals ride nice and smooth, barely any road noise. The offset, as mentioned, is a little too low for our cars, but the only real danger goes to the rear fenders. Even with my fenders rolled, they'll rub if you hit a speed bump with heavy shit in the back and/or people in the rear seats. Scares the shit out of me. As for the fronts, no problem at all; I can turn the wheel all the way with no rubbing.

CleanCL

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ooooo as far as i have seen, pictures of only 1 person on AZ to install a set of zeals and i remember he slammed it. i hope you don't mind sore kidneys.

DFoster0

Omni coilovers
19x7.5
42 offset

brianlin87

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haha, someone actually took notice a month after my post. yeah, i remember he slammed his Zeal B6 coilovers... i think the XS is a bit different.

ETA: 2 weeks.

RealityKing

do you have any pics with the H&R springs on??

kc 900

Am I okay with kokico blues and teins? Do I really Need to get coilovers? I hear that every time you adjust them you need to get an alignment done...

I'm looking more for basic fun spirited driving, so would I just be fine with after market struts and springs?

nbennettksu

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- Cusco strut tower brace paired with OEM brace
- Cusco lower tie bar
- Neuspeed front sway @ 27mm
- Progress rear sway @ 24mm
- Tokico Blues
- Skunk2 coilover sleeves
- Ingalls front camber kit
- SPC rear camber kit
- 19"x8" +45
- 235.35.19 tires


Impressions, handles the mountain roads like a champ (compared to stock Cl-P suspension)... Tokico Blue's aren't as stiff as I'd like...

GroundedCustom

how do you like the ksports??? im, looking ot purchase them also.. the ksports have th built in camber adjustability from what ive seen/heard. there is no need for an outside camber kit. whats beetter then that.
the cambe rkits are pricey as ever,more then the suspension setup it self.
]to find out if you need a camber kit,i would assume you have gotta an alignment done no? thagt should answer your question. if not go get one.

loopey dude

Hi, i'm new here. Bought an 03 CL-P for my wife. Looking to upgrade the suspension. It floats bad at 100mph. Was looking to buy an Eibach Pro-plus system. Do you guys think that would be wise $$$ spent? Limited budget.

civicdrivr

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Not for the CL. I've got 18s and a 1 finger gap all around, and I was able to get the front dialed in without a camber kit, but the rear was -2* out without the camber kit. It's visibly out, and I hate that look.

The Ingalls kit I got for the rear was $160 or so. Thats not pricey, compared to the $800 the K-Sports cost.

brianlin87

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Updated 2009 Suspension:

- Cusco OS Strut Tower Bar
- Cusco Lower Tie Bar
- Progress rear sway @ 24mm
- Zeal Function-T Coilovers (12/8)
(stiffness set at 5 of 6)
- Comptech/SPC front camber kit
- Comptech/SPC rear camber kit

Impressions: Hands-down the best c/o available for this car since it was custom built and valved by Zeal USA.

Fkn_ninja_CLS

question.........what are some price ranges here... i just got enough money to put into suspension for now. im debating if i should just wait and get air runners for an easy adjustment but since its so pricey i might just wanna test out coilovers and put the investment otherwise. Im looking for

1. not so bumpy ride
2. a nice drop
3. gonna add 18's or 19's in the future

also..what offset would you most likely go with for 1 2 3 ^

{in the future i would like my car to look like 'lipstuh's' damn..}

Fkn_ninja_CLS

oh and do you really need camber kits and tie bars right away?