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I guess I'm pulling the $1,049.00 trigger tonight...lol
In addition,
Remember to get a new pilot bearing; 91006-PGE-008 for the flywheel;
manual trans fluid; Honda or ACDelco 10-4014 Friction Modified Synchromesh Fluid
and a Rear Main OIL SEAL (80X98X10) (91214P8AA01) while you are there if it's leaking.
Thanks Zeta! I'm almost positive that it comes with a new Pilot Bearing according to a thread I just read. XLR8 stated that they now ship them with a Pilot and Throw out bearing. I replaced the rear main seal 2 yrs ago when I last replaced the clutch, so it should be fine but I'll check it. I also still might have enough tranny fluid (honda). I was reading a post from H23ACCORD and he couldn't be any happier purchasing the same DAILY kit. Interesting thread....
Well....everything is still in pieces. I received my DAILY clutch kit (Aasco flywheel/ stronger pressure plate/stage 2 clutch) and I got 500hp rated INSANE SHAFTS. But, now I am waiting on a COMPTECH S\C. Yes, I found one with less than 30k on it for $2k including everything that comes with it. So as soon as I get that I'll be putting everything together.
Well....everything is still in pieces. I received my DAILY clutch kit (Aasco flywheel/ stronger pressure plate/stage 2 clutch) and I got 500hp rated INSANE SHAFTS. But, now I am waiting on a COMPTECH S\C. Yes, I found one with less than 30k on it for $2k including everything that comes with it. So as soon as I get that I'll be putting everything together.
Well, if you happen to not have the 'official' CT Engineering 6-speed Installation instructions and kit component check list to reference, I've left them for you above. If the links fail to work, go to ct-engineering.com under the Install/Tech menu and they will be there. If you have any questions on anything, except the ESM Installation, I can pretty much give you an experienced reply and short cut recomendations.
One other question, which alternator pulley is coming with the kit? The stock one or the optional high boost pulley.
Awesome Zeta, thank you!! I will definitely take a look at those instructions once I am doing the install. I will be taking it off the car that it's on (99 accord coupe j32a2 swap\6-speed) so I will be removing then re-installing. It has the stock pulley on it. It runs 6-7 lbs @ 325 whp, but his j32a2 is a 3.5L stroker. J35a1 crank, connecting rods, rod bearings, main bearings, and j35a8 exhaust valves.
Awesome Zeta, thank you!! I will definitely take a look at those instructions once I am doing the install. I will be taking it off the car that it's on (99 accord coupe j32a2 swap\6-speed) so I will be removing then re-installing. It has the stock pulley on it. It runs 6-7 lbs @ 325 whp, but his j32a2 is a 3.5L stroker. J35a1 crank, connecting rods, rod bearings, main bearings, and j35a8 exhaust valves.
That's a nice Accord set-up. Just a few tips.
Make sure to keep an eye out for the little O-rings when you work with 1) the MAP sensor on the intake elbow and 2) the throttle body block off plate. They tend to disappear or get hard with age.
It may be prudent to have on hand an extra throttle body gasket (16176-PGE-A01) or two, because they sometimes tend to not separate intact.
Also be mindful of the cam plate o-ring (91301-P8A-A00). If you decide not to follow step#12 and remove the blower en mass (with the blower bracket attached to the input shaft) so not to stress the seal around the input shaft, sometimes the o-ring will tear/get damaged in the process of removing the Blower and Blower Bracket; step#11 from the head.
If you go the more difficult route of doing what it says in step 11, then the potential for damage to the cam plate o-ring is reduced. You might want to have an extra one handy and use plenty of oil on the o-ring and head during installation. Also, save the cam plate cover, if possible, because if you have to remove the blower for any reason, you will need it to make the car daily drivable in future.
In addition, if the accord coupe is getting 6-7lbs with the existing alternator pulley, it sounds like you may have the high boost pulley. Has the pulley been changed at the pulley side of the blower shaft? If not and that is stock, then it sounds like you may have the alternator HBP. The stock alternator pulley that came with the kit originally from CT Engineering was 'shiney' in appearance and has only been known to produce 3 - 3.5lbs. If the pulley has been changed at the blower shaft, then that may be helping to get the 6-7lbs.
This is the only pic I have of the S\C. If I do think back I don't recall seeing a chrome pulley on the alternator. Sounds like I have to be EXTRA careful when removing and re-installing the S\C. What do you think, is this worth the $2000? I think yes, because this will be the icing on the cake for my car. When I took a ride in his car it pulled hard but honestly my car felt the same all motor, which means my car will be a lot faster obviously with that supercharger, I am just trying to convince myself on spending the $2,000 also I know I'll have to spend more getting it tuned. I hope I'm making the right decision. I know most of you would kill for a Supercharger but my car already runs Low 13's all motor with not a worry on my mind that I can beat on it all day. Not sure if I put the supercharger on do I have to get it tuned right away? Or can I ride with it for a little bit? I just don't want to hurt my motor.
On the regular pulley with comptech esm, you'll have no worries.
I found the cam shaft plate bolts to be very easily over torqued. Be careful when tightening them. I put some silicone there just to be safe.
I'd recommend wrapping your headers and doing some heat mitigation as my intake temps get pretty high. Plus you're in Florida. This style blower runs hot!
For 2G you did great. Even if you didn't like it for some reason you'd have no problem selling it for the same or more.
Thanks gnuts! Headers are already wrapped all the way down the down-pipe. Yes, it gets sweltering hot here in Fl. Can an intercooler do anything with this S\C? When you mentioned the Comptech ESM, where would that be located? I just need to make sure that I get EVERYTHING needed from this guy. Also, I have an 09 TL Intake Manifold, would that S\C work with that? I guess my 76mm TB would also have to come off, or would that also work with it? Those P2R plennums he has might make more hp than my 09 TL IM.
The esm is spliced in near the ecu from what I understand. I bought my car with the S/C installed but have taken the blower off many times. It's super easy.
my next big thing is to put on a front mount intercooler and the HBP.
The 09 manifold sits lower than the regular manifold, so it would affect how the S/C elbow lines up. You could make up that height with a p2r intake manifold gasket.
The S/C opening is about 70mm. You could probably still use your 74. I also upgraded my icebox piping to 3.5".
I am just trying to convince myself on spending the $2,000 also I know I'll have to spend more getting it tuned. I hope I'm making the right decision.
That's a great price, especially if it only has 30K on it. The amount of the up-front investment is a little intimidating; however, you are elevating up to a different level of the old cliché 'you have to pay to play'. You have one very important aspect of IT covered though and that is the 'LABOR' side. By doing all the install work yourself and learning as you go, you save tremendously on labor cost. That savings can then be transferred over to the facet of tuning.
Originally Posted by 2ndgentl
I know most of you would kill for a Supercharger but my car already runs Low 13's all motor with not a worry on my mind that I can beat on it all day. Not sure if I put the supercharger on do I have to get it tuned right away? Or can I ride with it for a little bit?
If you install the EMS, set at 2.93volts, then you don't have to get it tuned right away. The Accord EMS is set at 2.84v so that will have to be adjusted, per the attached instructions, if your friend has it installed on his car.
As a suggestion.
In regards to tuning. You may already have a local shop in mind? The blunt long and short of it is in order to '...beat on it all day...' like you are used to with your NA set-up, you have to get it tuned and tuned right with the proper equipment and an experienced tuner/shop.
The latest and greatest is the Dezod AEM EMS Acura CL Type S 01-03; DZM-05010. Check out brian6speed's thread below for research. The only guy on the forum who is currently running this unit is R J Poseidon 6 on his 6speed. He works at Kings Performance, east of you in Orlando, and as you well see from reading the thread, he claims the Dezod standalone is the 'bee's knees' for the CL-S6. IF you can get Kings Performance to honor the May 2014 quote of $2,250 turnkey reflected in post #19, then for an investment of about $4250, you will have one bad ass S/C'ed CL.
I'm reminded of how I have received every bit of that investment back and then some every time I hear that sweet whine of the S/C'er on a long third gear pull, hehe.
Oh, and BTW, just to give you an example/perspective of how good of a deal you are getting with that $2K S/C'er, I paid $4250 just for the S/C'er kit back in 2004 and $100 extra for the HBP because I had to order it separately. Got to 'pay to play'.
I realize this is easy for me to say and God forbid; however, if the worst should happen and you hurt your motor it should not be that difficult to find a reasonable replacement j32a2 OR j35a3 from the '03 MDX that is a direct bolt on to your current 6-speed tranny.
I realize this is easy for me to say and God forbid; however, if the worst should happen and you hurt your motor it should not be that difficult to find a reasonable replacement j32a2 OR j35a3 from the 01-02' MDX that is a direct bolt on to your current 6-speed tranny.
The 09 manifold sits lower than the regular manifold, so it would affect how the S/C elbow lines up. You could make up that height with a p2r intake manifold gasket.
The S/C opening is about 70mm. You could probably still use your 74. I also upgraded my icebox piping to 3.5".
I have P2R thermal gaskets, P2R IM spacer and ridgeline IM spacer, so I'll mess around with it.
I was able to find the ESM wiring and install directions, If possible, I'll try to attach it to this thread.
Also, I wonder if the aluminium radiator your Accord friend is running will fit in the CL?
Thanks for the instructions on the ESM! I was also wondering if that radiator would fit the CL. It is for an 8th gen accord, he had to modify the brackets on top. You can see them if you zoom in on the pic.
Hey dudes, I'm still using the Dezod set up & it's still working perfectly. Now, you mentioned running low 13s all motor - I haven't taken it to the track because I'm a single dad of two, so time, life, etc plus idgaf really. Having said that, before we tuned it with the Dezod set up, I ran mid-13s. it feels quicker now & also way more steady. With the piggy back it was hit or miss the performance. With this, it's always spot on. Always. I have always been a stickler about all my features working (heated seats, navi, pwr mirror etc) so my car is heavy with everything inclusing a subwoofer so if you lighten your load - it'll be much quicker than mine.
I'm not too tech savy on the matter, since I've had my kids my care for the car and car scene has diminished (unless it's real racing like F1 MotoGP etc) so I wish I could be of assistance on the technical side. But if you call Sergio 321-235-2699 @ Kings Performance | I AM THE KING. maybe he can answer your technical questions since he tuned it......
i think 2ndgenTL has some weight reduction, so that must help his 1/4 times. I've always thought about doing more weight reduction, like light seats, but with the kids in the car sometimes i need safety first. Mind you i think i will gut the trunk and ditch the spare for an inflator/plug kit.
i think 2ndgenTL has some weight reduction, so that must help his 1/4 times. I've always thought about doing more weight reduction, like light seats, but with the kids in the car sometimes i need safety first. Mind you i think i will gut the trunk and ditch the spare for an inflator/plug kit.
My car weighs 3020 lbs the last time I took it to a weigh station. Still looks good inside out, I did it without making it all look gutted. I can easily say that the weight reduction makes a huge difference. Everyone I have raced thinks my car is S\C, especially with that custom bump I have on my hood. That's the only bad thing now that I'm going to install that S\C is that everyone will expect it to be fast. But everything today is either Turbo'd or S\C'ed.
Hey dudes, I'm still using the Dezod set up & it's still working perfectly. Now, you mentioned running low 13s all motor - I haven't taken it to the track because I'm a single dad of two, so time, life, etc plus idgaf really. Having said that, before we tuned it with the Dezod set up, I ran mid-13s. it feels quicker now & also way more steady. With the piggy back it was hit or miss the performance. With this, it's always spot on. Always. I have always been a stickler about all my features working (heated seats, navi, pwr mirror etc) so my car is heavy with everything inclusing a subwoofer so if you lighten your load - it'll be much quicker than mine.
I'm not too tech savy on the matter, since I've had my kids my care for the car and car scene has diminished (unless it's real racing like F1 MotoGP etc) so I wish I could be of assistance on the technical side. But if you call Sergio 321-235-2699 @ Kings Performance I AM THE KING. maybe he can answer your technical questions since he tuned it......
Well, I'm definitely going to have to come and pay you a visit over in Orlando, but first I need to chat with you and get all that I need to make this car a Beast before I come over and have you tune it on the AEM EMS
Everyone I have raced thinks my car is S\C, especially with that custom bump I have on my hood.
So, it is not my eyes playing tricks on me when I look at that picture. I thought one time looking at your avatar that the hood appeared to have a bump, but was not sure. Post a few more pics of the hood, when time allows.
Well, I'm definitely going to have to come and pay you a visit over in Orlando, but first I need to chat with you and get all that I need to make this car a Beast before I come over and have you tune it on the AEM EMS
Oh for sure, I'll get you on the phone with Serge so we get get the specifics down. Your car is sick AF so I'd loooove to hear / see that sexy beast on the dyno. It will definitely have to be scheduled because our dyno is being used often so we'll assure you a spot whenever you are ready.
My car weighs 3020 lbs the last time I took it to a weigh station. Still looks good inside out, I did it without making it all look gutted. I can easily say that the weight reduction makes a huge difference. Everyone I have raced thinks my car is S\C, especially with that custom bump I have on my hood. That's the only bad thing now that I'm going to install that S\C is that everyone will expect it to be fast. But everything today is either Turbo'd or S\C'ed.
What weight reduction have you done? I know you have those s2000 seats and rpf1.
I'm not too tech savy on the matter, since I've had my kids my care for the car and car scene has diminished (unless it's real racing like F1 MotoGP etc) so I wish I could be of assistance on the technical side.
R J Poseidon 6, I realize that you are not to tech savy on the matter; however, since Serge has already installed/tuned your car, would I be 'out of the ball park' to postulate that he could/would use any type of 'baseline' tune file?, that is already on your car's AEM unit, as a starting point on any potential customers, like 2ndgentl's CL, and then 'tweek it' further on the dyno to suit 2g's mods, thus quickening the overall tune process? See what i'm saying? Versus beginning at a virgin starting point when Serge initiated the tune for your car back in the day? Just curious.
So, it is not my eyes playing tricks on me when I look at that picture. I thought one time looking at your avatar that the hood appeared to have a bump, but was not sure. Post a few more pics of the hood, when time allows.
I put a 1.3" IM Spacer (Ridgeline) and loved how it felt but the hood wouldn't close so I had my fiberglass guy make me a bump on my hood and re-spray the hood. Now I have just enough clearance.
^ Nice!
That's a sharp ass car, man. Does it have Navi with black interior? If so, I think I read some where on here that that is the rarest color combo with fewest made for the CL-S6. The only reason I went with 'arrest me red' on mine was because it had the option of a biege interior. My second choice was white; however, IIRC they only came with black interior. I promised myself, after many black interiors here in FL, the next new car I got was going to be anything but black because of the heat, so red won out. hehe.
Your fiberglass guy does great work. Just a little 'bump' to meet your clearence issue, all the while keeping the natural design flows intact.
^ Nice!
That's a sharp ass car, man. Does it have Navi with black interior? If so, I think I read some where on here that that is the rarest color combo with fewest made for the CL-S6. The only reason I went with 'arrest me red' on mine was because it had the option of a biege interior. My second choice was white; however, IIRC they only came with black interior. I promised myself, after many black interiors here in FL, the next new car I got was going to be anything but black because of the heat, so red won out. hehe.
Your fiberglass guy does great work. Just a little 'bump' to meet your clearence issue, all the while keeping the natural design flows intact.
Yes, black interior with NAV, 1 of 15 made! What does this mean you ask?!! Absolutely nothing for the resale value...lol My car has always been garage kept here in hot FL so the interior is still in great shape. That fiberglass guy was definitely the best I have ever seen, but alcohol has screwed him and his work over the years...They did make the CL-6 speed in white with tan interior which I have seen before in person but I love my black interior. I had a 99 dark green TL with the tan interior and I loved that combo as well. The CL looks very sexy in red though
What weight reduction have you done? I know you have those s2000 seats and rpf1.
Where do I start...lol My trunk is gutted, rpf1 wheels, CF Hood & trunk, no cat or mid muffler, all unnecessary shields\metal ECT under car and engine bay, 09 TL IM, no front and rear bumper supports, lithium ion motorcycle battery (1 lb, but $300....but more powerful than any battery I've ever had), no wiper fluid\reservoir, light weight pulleys & flywheel, ect, ect...I'm sure I have more unlisted items
R J Poseidon 6, I realize that you are not to tech savy on the matter; however, since Serge has already installed/tuned your car, would I be 'out of the ball park' to postulate that he could/would use any type of 'baseline' tune file?, that is already on your car's AEM unit, as a starting point on any potential customers, like 2ndgentl's CL, and then 'tweek it' further on the dyno to suit 2g's mods, thus quickening the overall tune process? See what i'm saying? Versus beginning at a virgin starting point when Serge initiated the tune for your car back in the day? Just curious.
I'm with you on this, it sounds like the obvious way to do it. Having said that, I'll ask because I have no clue if 'paste and copy' is an option (it should right?!). I'll bring my car those days you're here so we can get some 'Cliff Notes' as to I normally drive my Yota pickup to keep the miles of the CL....
Okay just spoke to Serge - he would indeed use mine as a reference but would just go from there as to it will be vehicle specific & he wants to ensure that your tune is perfect for YOUR car. So short answer - yes.
Okay just spoke to Serge - he would indeed use mine as a reference but would just go from there as to it will be vehicle specific & he wants to ensure that your tune is perfect for YOUR car. So short answer - yes.
Thanks brah for taking the time and validating my hunch above. King Serge would be an interesting guy to speak with to say the least, hehe.
There you go 2ndgentl, these guy's, Kings Performance, are there when the time arrives for you!
Supposedly I'm removing the S\C from the guys car Friday morning. I'm going to be ordering Innovative Motor Mounts for my car today, so my question is now that my car will be Supercharged which mounts should I go with? Street/Track/Race/ or Extreme?
10-19-2016, 11:23 PM
If the links fail to work, go to ct-engineering.com under the Install/Tech menu and they will be there. If you have any questions on anything, except the ESM Installation, I can pretty much give you an experienced reply and short cut recomendations. 
So, it is not my eyes playing tricks on me when I look at that picture. I thought one time looking at your avatar that the hood appeared to have a bump, but was not sure. Post a few more pics of the hood, when time allows.
, lithium ion motorcycle battery (1 lb, but $300....but more powerful than any battery I've ever had), no wiper fluid\reservoir, light weight pulleys & flywheel, ect, ect...I'm sure I have more unlisted items
