Integra_drk

I just wanted to make sure that 3.2 and 2.5tl suspension is the same. Thanks.

KrayzieDxC

no,

3.2tl are same as legend (engine), you can use accord suspension 94-95

2.5tl you can also use accord suspension

but i don't think you can swap a factory strut and shock off of each of them

Integra_drk

ok but the springs should be the same right?

KrayzieDxC

for aftermarket springs both can use same..

as for factory springs no..i beleive it was differ from the weight

Integra_drk

just what i needed to know, thanks man.

desired_speeds

uh....... no you cannot use 3.2 suspension on a 2.5, vice versa. 3.2 uses the same suspension from the 91-95 legends for the front but the rear are unique. 2.5 uses 94-97 accord suspension all around, even the hub over rotor front brakes. So no, 3.2 and 2.5 suspension are 100% different from each other.

Integra_drk

hmmm. ok, but you can use 94-97 accord springs on a 3.2 correct?

Go90go

Why not just get springs meant for the car? I did, then Krayzie got a set, too. I'm on some old school discontinued Tanabe sus, and Krayzie's using RS*R Ti-2000s.

~Cheers~

desired_speeds

incorrect, you can use it on a 2.5 but not a 3.2.

KrayzieDxC

dude just pm colt45 for springs and shock..he prob still have them eibach pro-kit springs with brandnew stock shocks.. i beleive he was selling 400.00 but pm first..to me thats a good deal..and that a rare dam springs

TLin401

A set of 3.2 Eibach Pro-Kit springs only show up on ebay every once in a WHILE.

bigwerm187

so what exactly is the differance from th 2.5 and the 3.2 suspention..? differnat blots struts like what is it. thats what i want to know..

Integra_drk

so will 98-02 springs fit on a 3.2? The selection for the 3.2s just suck, nothing really with a low enough drop.

desired_speeds

^it will NOT fit.

Ken1997TL

KrayzieDxC

how low do u want to drop it? get some bg suspension springs with 1.6 drop all around..

memphisraines26

hate to jump on this a lil late, but since i have a 2.5 i can use the 94-97 suspension? I want coilovers to dial in the drop but want to change to rotor over hub rears. what interchanges to upgrade rears and upgrade front brakes. I want to get some new rims and need sugestions for rim size. 16 or 17"?

TLin401

17" ftw!

memphisraines26

there a difference in the 94-97 accord coupe vs sedan suspension?

desired_speeds

same.

memphisraines26

werent the 2.5 rear rotors pressed on hubs? but certain prelude rear hub over rotor be swapped in?

J-SpecTL

iTrader: (1)

ok so wait, i can use aftermarket struts for a legend on my 3.2 with ground controls for the front? any other makes fit the rear?

undyroos

aftermarket struts for a legend will only fit a 3.2 if you use the legend fork, an older member tried and confirmed this...94-97 accord struts will fit the 3.2 fork just fine. that's the front. the rear of the 3.2 is the same as the 94-97 accords/2.5...

J-SpecTL

iTrader: (1)

this is starting to get confusing. desired speeds say that 2.5 and 3.2 are not the same, 3.2 can use legend sus. for front but the backs are unique. 2.5 can use accord sus. all around.

now, 3.2 can use 94-97 accord struts all around just like the 2.5?

anyone has concrete evidence on either theory? its just that everyone has their own opinion and at times it conflicts with others, so its just soo confusing. also, if 94-97 accord struts fit on the 3.2, will full 94-97 accord coilovers fit the 3.2 too? oh wait, but you'll prob sag due to the spring rate is for the accord and the tl is heavier, right?

undyroos

this is what i know, 3.2 and 2.5 have the same rear suspension as 94-97 accord.

3.2 and 2.5 fronts are not the same.

3.2 and legend fronts are SIMILAR but not exactly the same. if you want to use legend struts in the front, you need a legend fork to fit it into because the diameter of the strut is bigger.

3.2 can use koni 94-97 accord struts in the front IF you use GC coilovers with baby sleeves. baby sleeves are the koni specific sleeves that slide over the struts/shocks. they have a much smaller diameter than the sleeves that come with the regular coilovers meant for your stock shocks. i do not know if 94-97 accord struts will work with a stock 3.2 suspension in the front, meaning i do not know if it is a direct swap. i only used them with GC baby sleeves and they work fine.

3.2 people on stock shocks who want to replace them, i don't know what to tell you besides oem $hock$.

hope this helps some people...

J-SpecTL

iTrader: (1)

great post. thanks. so just to confirm, you're using 94-97 accord struts all around with GC coilovers with the baby sleeves? that means you would also have to get different collars to fit the smaller diameter of the sleeve, right? i got the sleeves that fit the stock struts. where did you get the baby sleeves?

i know its a lot to ask but could you take a pic of your suspension?

thanks undyroos

undyroos

no prob. yes, i am using koni yellows for the 94-97 accord on GC baby sleeves. i got them directly from GC, give them a call and tell them you want sleeves for the 94-97 accord for whatever shocks you will run (koni yellows most likely). the one thing is, the baby sleeves will come in two different lengths, one for the front and one for the rear. tell GC you want FOUR sleeves of the LONGER length. this will allow you to raise the rear of the car if ever need to. i didn't know that and i got baby sleeves of two diff lengths and now the rear of my car is as HIGH as it will go. it will cost the same and they will come with collars. i remember telling colt45 all this stuff a while back...

i have a thread in the photo gallery that shows installation of all this stuff...it has more info on what i had to do too (some drilling etc)...GOOD LUCK!

bigwerm187

yeah i have been confuesed on this topic to. but as i read basicly i can use 94-97 accord sus on my 2.5 and just put it in with out any problems right....? cuz i want to get tein sus for mine and i just wnat to make sure that the 94-97 accord will fit... the sus i found comes with everything the struts sleves and springs.. cuz i read about that you used baby sleves and stuff like that i never herd of that.

undyroos

pics are in here https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tl-photograph-gallery-102/little-history-my-tl-lots-pics-56k-warning-583578/

i don't have a 2.5 but if i did, i'd have bought coilovers for a 94-97 accord already, but that's just me (that being said, i'm not holding myself liable for anything that doesn't work/fails/explodes)...if you go with tein/k-sport/etc, they should come with everything you need (baby sleeves are for ground control only). good luck!

J-SpecTL

iTrader: (1)

i cant believe that i missed that huge thread. thats one hot car and priceless info. i bookmarked that thread and please NEVER take down those pics.

few more questions, you say that when you swapped the rear sleeves to the front and front to the back because the fronts were orginally too low, it still looks crazy low, i just wanna have more hight adjustment. is the collar/perch at the top of the sleeve or is that the highest you can turn the perch because the spring is starting to get compressed? does GC make an even longer sleeve then the ones they sent you? they prob dont by looking at the pics. it looks as if the longer sleeve swapped to the front is already near the top of the strut but i gotta ask. the spring thats being used with the koni struts, is that the springs that came with the original GC kit. im just kinda surprised that the front would be that low at the highest setting and stumped that the spring wouldnt slide past the perch due to the smaller diameter sleeve and smaller diameter perch and smaller perch platform for the spring to sit on. these may be retarded questions to you but i gotta get this clarified before i spend money on a similar set up.

bigwerm187

yeah i understand i just wnat to make sure that 94-97 accord sus is for the 2.5 TL. alot of people say it is so i just wat to make sure you know... thanx lol o by the way great set up you got i saw your pix and dam great job dude...! lol

bigwerm187

[QUOTE=undyroos;10596590]pics are in here https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583578




o by the way great set up you got i saw your pix and dam great job dude...! lol and on thoes headlights dam dude crazy..lol... great job dude...!

undyroos

it only looks crazy low now because i lowered it more (dd height!), however, it can go higher. there is plenty of thread left on the sleeve to go up. the way it looked originally with the front sleeve at the front, the collar was all the way to the top and it was too low. i like to know that i have some adjustability if i ever need it.

i don't know if they make longer sleeves. i doubt that you will need longer ones but they are super nice if you call them up and ask.

the springs being used are the ones that came with the original gc kit. the reason the front looked so low originally was because no one ever intended for us to match konis from an accord to gc 3.2 springs. the springs don't slide past the perch because the collars have a wider base so the springs still rest on them.

the only issue i have with my suspension now is that whenever i jack up the rear of the car and the wheels come off the ground, the rear springs unseat because they are too short and are no longer under compression. it's mildly annoying to me but when i take my car to a shop, i always have to tell them about this so they don't drop the car to floor like i always see them do. if you decide to go with custom spring rates, get longer springs for the rear. i measured it once and i think it needs to be 2 inches longer to stay seated.

post pics when you got them! i always love seeing what you do with your car...

J-SpecTL

iTrader: (1)

thanks undyroos, i will def use this info towards my advantage in the near future. now knowing that 90-97 accord struts fit, i might buy easy street suspension for that application but if i dont, then ill have identical suspension as you.

thanks again! much appreciated!

acurapr

Im looking for aftermarket shock absorbers for my 2.5 but i dont find. I only found the monroe sensa track for this car. Im try to verify with some acura and honda part distributors if the shocks for this car is the same of the 94-97 accord. Everyone tell me no. Im contacting a technical info of the kyb shock and he answer me, that they have a shock for this car but this is available for the end of this month. How i can verify if really the shock for the 2.5 is the same of the accord 94-97.

bigwerm187

yeah alot of people say that the 94-97 accord suspention will fit the 2.5 TL. i just gotta make sure thats it beacuse am geting the tein and i dont wnat to spend 800 bucks for nothing you know. of course if you call honda and stuff like that there going to tell tell you no... thats what they told me to so yeah..lol... but alot of people here say that the 94-97 accord suspention will fit..

Inspired[RUS]

There are some problems with front brakes lines fittings, but nothing serious. I drive RSR ammo and springs from CE accord on my 2,5 Inspire UA2. Almost forget - rear ammos have springs cups lower about 1 inch than TL ones. So you'll need a coilovers or some states under your springs. Or your TL will sit on its tail

bigwerm187

yeah am getting the tein coil over set up.. am buying everything struts with sleves and springs.. so is that the only problems that i will run into then...?

desired_speeds

what front shocks are being used then, is it out of another model accord? I know its not Legend because you need to use the Legend forks to put those on.

Inspired[RUS]

As for me - no more problems. May be you'll find something else, if TL and Inspire have more differences in suspension, than steering-wheel location. If you buy front accord's ammos with "forks", you'd change it (forks) to TL ones, they are not the same.