pulling to the right and surging under braking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-26-2016, 06:58 PM
  #1  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
jacksonmullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
pulling to the right and surging under braking

hello all,

ive been having an issue with my 2009 rdx. it pulls to the right all of the time, and under braking most of the time it sort of surges, it does not seem like a warped rotor, there is no shake in the steering wheel at all, its the whole car sort of surges as you brake (best way i could describe it.) i read on the crv forums that the pulling is a common problem from castor being out of alignment, not sure if that would attribute to the surging feeling. any advice/experiences anybody can share is appreciated. thanks in advance!

Last edited by jacksonmullet; 09-26-2016 at 07:02 PM.
Old 09-27-2016, 06:33 AM
  #2  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,267 Likes on 11,974 Posts
yes, you need to get your car aligned if you havent.

and the surging sounds like a vacuum leak.
Old 09-27-2016, 07:49 AM
  #3  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
jacksonmullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Vacume leak can cause a surge under braking?
Old 09-27-2016, 07:52 AM
  #4  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 47,290
Received 8,741 Likes on 6,743 Posts
when was the last time your throttle body has been looked at/cleaned?
Old 09-27-2016, 07:54 AM
  #5  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
jacksonmullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Probably never. How would this impact braking?
Old 09-27-2016, 07:56 AM
  #6  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,267 Likes on 11,974 Posts
Originally Posted by jacksonmullet
Vacume leak can cause a surge under braking?
the brakes are under a vacuum

Old 09-27-2016, 08:01 AM
  #7  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
jacksonmullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by justnspace
the brakes are under a vacuum
I've been working on cars for probably 20 years, dealt with vacuum leaks, which typically effected how the car runs, never once braking. I will look into it though. Wouldn't a vacuum leak also effect the turbo system in the rdx?
Old 09-27-2016, 08:03 AM
  #8  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,267 Likes on 11,974 Posts
at this point, without inspecting your vehicle physically...I'm only an armchair quarterback with a minor in car mechanics.
just a guess with the vacuum leak...but the brake booster is under a vacuum. a leak can cause surging. but who knows?

because that's what I Think of, when I hear the word surge.
Old 09-27-2016, 08:07 AM
  #9  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 47,290
Received 8,741 Likes on 6,743 Posts



I believe the brake booster is connected to the TB. Hence why I asked
Old 09-27-2016, 09:46 AM
  #10  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
jacksonmullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks guys, I will investigate this vacuum situation. Was reading on the crv's the shock tower will rotate causing the pull and castor to be out, I've never heard of this before, but wasn't sure if that would also cause a surge on braking.
Old 09-27-2016, 09:53 AM
  #11  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,267 Likes on 11,974 Posts
^honda/acura's always always have had finicky alignments. it's a FWD based vehicle. EVERY little bump will take alignment out of spec......

I believe what you have are two separate incidences.....an alignment problem..... and a surge problem....
fix one, then move on to the next....


go get an alignment sir.
Old 09-27-2016, 10:05 AM
  #12  
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
jacksonmullet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Will do, thanks!
Old 09-27-2016, 10:06 AM
  #13  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 47,290
Received 8,741 Likes on 6,743 Posts
also it's Caster not castor two different things!


Old 09-27-2016, 12:17 PM
  #14  
Pro
 
DRR98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 723
Received 43 Likes on 39 Posts
If the brakes are stopped with no cool down after severe use some excess pad material can form on the rotor at that spot under the pad causing uneven pad material deposits.

Later after they have cooled, you apply the brakes and the spot with the pad material buildup has more friction and the brake grabs (pulses) each time that spot contacts the pad.

You can easily check if this is what's going on in your case as far as the surging problem goes:

As your speed drops while you brake to a stop, the surge feeling will happen less time per second and each pulse lasts a bit longer till it stops as the car stops. If so, you can try to remove the excess pad material with sandpaper. But the longer it baked on the harder it gets. Think cement.

Baer has all the info you need to make your brakes work perfect and last as long as possible in their tech info section. Technical Information - Baer Brakes

Another source of brake info...

Inspecting Brake Rotors



Key is to break-in your brakes. Even when you only replace the pads.



The following users liked this post:
justnspace (09-27-2016)




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:26 PM.