Blenz

With similar price tags, which ones are better and why? and please don't mention the color because unlike that other guy, I don't care that the D2's are purple.

jumpmanbsktbll

Tein SS
just because..

ninetysevencl

i've never heard anything bad about either of em...i know u can get a custom spring rate with D2's. tein's are also really good, my friends got tein ss on his car and they're pretty sick. i personally am gonna go with D2's because they are a little cheaper and they're basically the same thing...

lnsyone

Everybodys opinion about "what's better" is different. Better as in what? What are you looking for in a coilover suspension setup? Ride? Performance? Function?

They're pretty much identical, but of course a few differences are: the adjustable strut body, upper mounts, and various spring rates that are found on D2 coilovers.

This is just my opinion, but I'd go with D2 coilovers simply because of the driving, and modifying I do.

It all depends on what you're looking for.

shineynitelite

bomz FTW

97BlackAckCL

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They're both good, I went with omni's though

Blenz

Things I'm looking for include :
a comfortable ride when dropped 2" or more
responsive handeling
performance when launching and braking
easy adjustability
durability, especially in a cold climate

I know I can't have all of these things at once, but I'd like to be able to have the option of a great ride or great performance through adjustability.

Time For Sleeep

Insyone has hit the head on the nail w/ the adjustable lower strut mount. This is something that the Tein SS does not have; the Tein SS is only height adjustable by lowering and raising via compressing/decompressing the spring.



If you look @ the difference between the KSports (basically the D2's) and the Teins (those are basics, but the SS I believe are the same set up except with dampening adjustability); the Ksports have a bottom perch that allows you to lower and raise the car with the lower strut body.

The problem with Tein Basics and SS is that they bottom out if you dump them with only the springs. This is because when you adjust with springs, you are shortening and extending the shock travel; because of the added adjustability I think the D2's are worth it.

Check the spring rates though, if they're anything like my Ksports, the D2's will be extremely stiff, MUCH stiffer than the comfy ride of the Teins =)

lnsyone

^ Exactly.

RiDiN CLeaN

D2s =

Mine are comin on Monday...I can't wait.

Anyone have any suggestions on the settings and all that sweet stuff? I don't mind a stiff ride, so that's not a problem. Right now, I'm on KYB AGXs (Set on 3 in the front, 6 in the back), and Id like it to be stiffer. I never got around to testing 4,8 but I'd assume it's just about what I was lookin for.

I got a question about the ride quality of coilovers, though. With my AGX/Neuspeed Sport setup, it was like I was feeling every bump in the road, on my stock wheels. It almost felt like there wasnt enough air in my tires when I went over some minor cracks or lips in a road. With all the adjustability of the D2s, am I able to make the ride softer or compensate for that feeling? No biggy if I'm not able to, but that would be perfect if I could.

My girlfriend's Celica is slammed, and yet you don't feel every damn crack and tiny hump in the road like with my suspension setup. I've never got around to seeing if she's on coilovers, but I'd assume so, because of such a nice feeling ride, while still riding real low. Am I right?


ANY suggestions on D2s would be great, because just like the starter of this thread, I'm tryin to figure out everything and use all these settings to my full advantage.

dragon084

tein ss-p , simply cuz thats what i use.

im sure i'd like d2s, omnis, or tanabe more if i used them.

my opinion is biased.

but i love my ride on teins

klepto

d2

97BlackAckCL

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Of the choices, d2 ftw

danielsmi

I guess I'm that guy and I say D2s even though they're purple

ib_jimmy

I would got with Tein just cuz of the ride quality.

Time For Sleeep

The ride quality from the Teins is much greater because of the softer spring rates. They are 7kg front/4kg rear; I understand that you can get the D2's in custom spring rates as well; as the default rates are pretty rough. (13/7 I believe).

732xghost

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also take a look at the H&R cup kit, and Tanabe SUSTEC's.

ghost_masterCL

that last one just killed the D2's. I've had 3 leaking shocks, maybe more (I'm too busy/lazy to check the front two) because of the cold weather (or so I was told by a D2 rep) here in colorado. Of course it got to like 8 degrees Fahrenhiet below zero here a couple times this winter.

All the other things I will say that the D2's do GREAT in, but the fact that they can't handle the climate I am in really bums me out.

RiDiN CLeaN

^ I think you're the same person I've seen a couple times talking about the cold weather affecting D2s.

That's got me pretty nervous. I live in St. Louis where it gets pretty cold in the winter. Nothin like CO, but we get snow and all that. We don't exactly get into the negative temps but on a pretty cold night we can get into the single digits. I've got Neuspeed Sports and KYB AGXs on the car right now, and those have held up just fine over the winter. I was wanting to sell them to make some money back, but now I'm debating if I should keep them for the winter time. I've got my stock springs in the basement, too, if I ended up just selling the Neuspeed springs and keeping the KYBs. What are your thoughts/suggestions?

I certainly don't want these things leaking and breaking after droppin a good amount of money on em...

ghost_masterCL

I'd say keep something that you can swap out with during the winter. Only problem with me is that "the winter" is never predictable. An example: It snowed 2 inches here last wednesday, and the next day it was 70 degrees out.

they are GREAT coilovers, I just wish I didn't have to deal with the UBER cold weather.

Also, when it's startgint to get cold, change the damper settings to the softest, that will probably help out. I had my REAR's on the hardest and they both blew on me, so maybe that's why. Just a thought.

732xghost

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yea man that sucks, so are you 4x4??? its probaly next to impossible to find a coilover thats built to handle cold climates??

NauTiC*

Teins EDFC.

dragon084

doesnt fit on my Teins at least.

Blenz

The scary thing is, I don't even consider -8 degrees Fahrenheit to be UBER cold. Keeping the coilovers on through the winter would be a huge mistake up here. I'm not sure if I should take your experiences as a knock on D2's or not because the Teins could be just as bad with the cold weather.
The main argument supporting the Teins seems to be the comfort of the ride given by their low spring rates. If I can get whatever spring rate I want on the D2's, then they seem like the better choice.

ghost_masterCL

I agree, for all we know, the Tiens will do the same thing in the cold weather, so there is really no way to know. I think I am going to replace all teh blown shocks, and just start taking them off during the winter.

99CL

I wouldn't call the Tien SS and d2 similar price tag. D2 price tag is more like the Tien basic. Depend on what you want to spend. I myself got the ksports and like them so far. They're a bit stiff but i think coilovers would be compared to regular spring/shock setup.

97BlackAckCL

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Teins are way more pricey for good ones

Chaviago

I've heard many more stories of D2s breaking, I myself had D2s back a couple of years ago and I was having issues with their top mount bushings. Now they are good with their warranty and getting parts swapped out, but it is still inconvenient. D2 is much more adjustable, but none of that matters when they are breaking. Tein has their own recipe and it really depends on which model we are comparing the D2s to. If we are going for dollar to dollar at retail pricing. 1425.00 for D2s RS Damper kit and 1390.00 for Teins Super Street Damper Kit. Once again that is retail price, and I'm sure through different sources, you'll get a deal on either product.

97BlackAckCL

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I've had both, my Tein SS's are still going strong and feel amazing!

RHO

Anybody still driving around on TEIN coilovers? I just got a set of Street Advance Z for my 99 2.3 Looking forward to installing them!

97BlackAckCL

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I still have my Tein SS-P's, they still feel as smooth as the day I put them on